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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 12 2012 11:57 TheMooseHeed wrote: I think I will just save the money and wait a little longer for load ups ^^ Perfectly reasonable for most people, honestly. They're nice, but they're a definite luxury at this point. | ||
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Boss.Killer
United States12 Posts
$900-1100 What is your resolution? 1080p 1920 x 1080 What are you using it for? Gaming and maybe streaming and day to day stuff Games i play Starcraft 2, Modern Warfare 2 and 3 and Black Ops, Saint Row 3, GTA series, Dirt 3, and others would it be worth to get a 6950 or 6870 depending on these games What is your upgrade cycle? Every 1-2 years or more When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible Do you plan on overclocking? Yes i plan to overclock my cpu but i dont know how to overclock my gpu so if so one teach me i maybe will Do you need an Operating System? Nope got one Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere in the USA Possible Build in mind CPU Intel I5 2500k and also got my mind of ivy bridge  Motherboard ASRock - P67 PRO3 GPU Either a 560 ti or 6950 or 6870 or 570 ti which PSU Capstone 550 Ram No idea Case Haf 912 and other i havent though about yet Hard Drive 500gb 7200rpm If you think my build suck please improve it and can you proivde like new egg links and also provide the total. I was thinking about have a good slient build so it not nosiy if possible thinkin about have 2 or 3 extra fans and also i plan to replace the cpu heatsink | ||
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
On March 12 2012 15:57 Boss.Killer wrote: + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? $900-1100 What is your resolution? 1080p 1920 x 1080 What are you using it for? Gaming and maybe streaming and day to day stuff Games i play Starcraft 2, Modern Warfare 2 and 3 and Black Ops, Saint Row 3, GTA series, Dirt 3, and others would it be worth to get a 6950 or 6870 depending on these games What is your upgrade cycle? Every 1-2 years or more When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible Do you plan on overclocking? Yes i plan to overclock my cpu but i dont know how to overclock my gpu so if so one teach me i maybe will Do you need an Operating System? Nope got one Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere in the USA Possible Build in mind CPU Intel I5 2500k and also got my mind of ivy bridge Motherboard ASRock - P67 PRO3 GPU Either a 560 ti or 6950 or 6870 or 570 ti which PSU Capstone 550 Ram No idea Case Haf 912 and other i havent though about yet Hard Drive 500gb 7200rpm If you think my build suck please improve it and can you proivde like new egg links and also provide the total. I was thinking about have a good slient build so it not nosiy if possible thinkin about have 2 or 3 extra fans and also i plan to replace the cpu heatsink If you are overclocking you will need an aftermarket heat sink for your cpu COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $34.99 On March 11 2012 15:52 skyR wrote: Capstone 550 is probably extremely extremely overpriced since Rosewill is a Newegg brand. Providing links to what you have chosen so far would be helpful | ||
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Cozzak
Canada54 Posts
Maximum ~$1800 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (Pretty sure its 1080p, its an ASUS LED VE247) What are you using it for? Heavy gaming and streaming for the most part (like 98%), and then possibly a little editing every now and then (nothing huge though). What is your upgrade cycle? Don't really have one ahah, this is my first computer I'm buying by myself. I would say 3/4/5 years most likely, as I want this computer to last me a while while I'm at school. When do you plan on building it? Somewhere around April 1st Do you plan on overclocking? Yes, probably only the CPU (maybe GPU if I get help) Do you need an Operating System? Yup. Just Windows 7 Home is fine. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Yup. I was hoping to use two 6870's in crossfire. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm going to try and look at CanadaComputers because they have a store right by my house. If not, I'll order from NewEgg or anywhere else I can find that is near by. | ||
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 12 2012 15:57 Boss.Killer wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? $900-1100 What is your resolution? 1080p 1920 x 1080 What are you using it for? Gaming and maybe streaming and day to day stuff Games i play Starcraft 2, Modern Warfare 2 and 3 and Black Ops, Saint Row 3, GTA series, Dirt 3, and others would it be worth to get a 6950 or 6870 depending on these games What is your upgrade cycle? Every 1-2 years or more When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible Do you plan on overclocking? Yes i plan to overclock my cpu but i dont know how to overclock my gpu so if so one teach me i maybe will Do you need an Operating System? Nope got one Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere in the USA Possible Build in mind CPU Intel I5 2500k and also got my mind of ivy bridge Motherboard ASRock - P67 PRO3 GPU Either a 560 ti or 6950 or 6870 or 570 ti which PSU Capstone 550 Ram No idea Case Haf 912 and other i havent though about yet Hard Drive 500gb 7200rpm If you think my build suck please improve it and can you proivde like new egg links and also provide the total. I was thinking about have a good slient build so it not nosiy if possible thinkin about have 2 or 3 extra fans and also i plan to replace the cpu heatsink $1033: Intel Core i5 2500k & GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $254 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.850304 Sapphire Radeon HD6850 @ $170 ($160 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 Rosewill Capstone 550 @ $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068 Crucial M4 128gb @ $175 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442 Corsair 550D @ $140 ($120 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139012 Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $75 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1215 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1215 DVD Burner @ $16 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1215 If you want to spend less on case and allocate for performance, you can get the Bitfenix Shinobi for $69 instead: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62891 or a Fractal Design Define R3 (ugly colour, black is oos at NCIX and not worth it at Newegg) for $93: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=53538 You don't want a case with tons of mesh (eg. HAF912) for a silent build. GPU overclocking is just adjusting a slider in software. Miles easier than CPU overclocking. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 12 2012 22:29 Cozzak wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? Maximum ~$1800 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (Pretty sure its 1080p, its an ASUS LED VE247) What are you using it for? Heavy gaming and streaming for the most part (like 98%), and then possibly a little editing every now and then (nothing huge though). What is your upgrade cycle? Don't really have one ahah, this is my first computer I'm buying by myself. I would say 3/4/5 years most likely, as I want this computer to last me a while while I'm at school. When do you plan on building it? Somewhere around April 1st Do you plan on overclocking? Yes, probably only the CPU (maybe GPU if I get help) Do you need an Operating System? Yup. Just Windows 7 Home is fine. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Yup. I was hoping to use two 6870's in crossfire. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm going to try and look at CanadaComputers because they have a store right by my house. If not, I'll order from NewEgg or anywhere else I can find that is near by. Are you joking, have you even taken a peak at pricing? Doing Radeon HD6870 Crossfire with a ~$1800 budget and a shitty 1080p screen is beyond retarded since: 1. A single card is more than enough to play most games on reasonably high settings at 1080p and it also has the benefit of not having to deal with retarded CrossfireX profiles and higher noise/heat. 2. CrossfireX 6870 comes no where close to $1800 unless you want to get ripped off or overkill on every other component. Though there is some good reason for the latter but I don't think that's what you had in mind since you were considering Ibuypower before. A Core i7 CrossfireX 7950 configuration can be had for $1922.i Intel Core i7 2600k @ $300 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57960&promoid=1215 MSI Z68A G45 @ $120 (pricematch with http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35751 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64932 Antec P280 @ $90 (HOT!) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65170&promoid=1215 Sapphire Radeon HD7950 @ $450 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14080BD3237 ) http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67897&promoid=1215 Sapphire Radeon HD7950 @ $450 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14080BD3237 ) http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67897&promoid=1215 GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/221142/G_SKILL/F3_10666CL9D_8GBRL/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=44264 XFX Core Edition 650 @ $80 ($60 after mail in rebate) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616 Crucial M4 128GB @ $170 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234805/CRUCIAL_TECHNOLOGY/CT128M4SSD2/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445 Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $78 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1215 DVD Burner @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35753 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64204 Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO @ $29 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/COOLERMASTER/RR_212E_20PK_R2/ ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=64385 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $98 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1215 | ||
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Cozzak
Canada54 Posts
On March 12 2012 23:23 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On March 12 2012 22:29 Cozzak wrote:What is your budget? Maximum ~$1800 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (Pretty sure its 1080p, its an ASUS LED VE247) What are you using it for? Heavy gaming and streaming for the most part (like 98%), and then possibly a little editing every now and then (nothing huge though). What is your upgrade cycle? Don't really have one ahah, this is my first computer I'm buying by myself. I would say 3/4/5 years most likely, as I want this computer to last me a while while I'm at school. When do you plan on building it? Somewhere around April 1st Do you plan on overclocking? Yes, probably only the CPU (maybe GPU if I get help) Do you need an Operating System? Yup. Just Windows 7 Home is fine. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Yup. I was hoping to use two 6870's in crossfire. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm going to try and look at CanadaComputers because they have a store right by my house. If not, I'll order from NewEgg or anywhere else I can find that is near by. + Show Spoiler + Are you joking, have you even taken a peak at pricing? Doing Radeon HD6870 Crossfire with a ~$1800 budget and a shitty 1080p screen is beyond retarded since: 1. A single card is more than enough to play most games on reasonably high settings at 1080p and it also has the benefit of not having to deal with retarded CrossfireX profiles and higher noise/heat. 2. CrossfireX 6870 comes no where close to $1800 unless you want to get ripped off or overkill on every other component. Though there is some good reason for the latter but I don't think that's what you had in mind since you were considering Ibuypower before. A Core i7 CrossfireX 7950 configuration can be had for $1922.i Intel Core i7 2600k @ $300 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57960&promoid=1215 MSI Z68A G45 @ $120 (pricematch with http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35751 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64932 Antec P280 @ $90 (HOT!) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65170&promoid=1215 Sapphire Radeon HD7950 @ $450 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14080BD3237 ) http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67897&promoid=1215 Sapphire Radeon HD7950 @ $450 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14080BD3237 ) http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67897&promoid=1215 GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/221142/G_SKILL/F3_10666CL9D_8GBRL/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=44264 XFX Core Edition 650 @ $80 ($60 after mail in rebate) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59616 Crucial M4 128GB @ $170 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/234805/CRUCIAL_TECHNOLOGY/CT128M4SSD2/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445 Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $78 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1215 DVD Burner @ $17 (pricematch with http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35753 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64204 Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO @ $29 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/COOLERMASTER/RR_212E_20PK_R2/ ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=64385 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $98 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1215 Thanks, I really appreciate your help it means a lot. Try not to be too hard on me because I DID say this is my first time ever buying parts separately rather than a pre-built. Thanks! | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Cozzak
Canada54 Posts
On March 13 2012 00:06 MisterFred wrote: I feel compelled to point out that unless you buy two more screens or a bigger resolution monitor, that you should only get one 7950. The second will simply go to waste since you don't need its power. Also, SkyR didn't include the link for assembly by ncix.com if you didn't want to assemble the computer yourself. But I'm sure you can find the link on their website. Yes I found the assembly link, and they even included it at the end of the order I think I will only use one 7950 for now, thanks for pointing that out. I can always buy another 7950 in the future and add it, correct? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Shadowfax
Denmark44 Posts
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
Currently I'm using: i3-2100 hd6850 antec green 380w h61 mobo 4gb no name ddr3 crappy $5-10 case 40"LCD TV monitor (will probably sell/trade for more funds) I'm planning on: - $300-400 monitor (no idea, maybe benq?) - $400-500 gpu (not sure, maybe 7950/7970 or gtx580?) - $200 cpu (2500k?) - $50-80 PSU (whatever deals show up for a good 500-600w) - $20-50 case (maybe haf922 or antec300) - $0-200 misc stuff (keyboard/mouse/etc.) Any suggestions or advice? Am I missing anything? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I would consider just an HD 7950, no CPU upgrade, no motherboard upgrade, no power supply upgrade (unnecessary considering 7950 and i3-2100 power draws, or even 7970 and i3-2100 so long as the 7970 isn't overclocked a lot). Depending on the design of the graphics card and how the old chassis really is, a new one may be warranted. Take your pick of the BenQ XL2420T, Asus VG236H, Samsung S23A700D, or something like that. | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
I would love to save some money, but I'm a little concerned about a few things. Is an i3 really enough to hit 100+fps on max settings 1080p without getting CPU bottlenecked? Also, is there any danger with running a 7950/7970 with a 380w power supply? What's the point of getting a 500w+ psu if you can run the fastest GPUs with 380w? | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
There's no danger running pretty much any single-GPU with a quality 380w power supply, if you're not overclocking or using a power-hungry processor. The point of 500w+ power supplies are to run systems that need more power (2 GPUs or whatever reason). Also, many crappy power supplies claim to be 500w or whatever but will actually produce less usable power than your 380w system. Edit: So if you get a new processor (preferably waiting for the next generation in late april), a new motherboard, a new gpu, and if you overclock the processor you might also consider a new power supply, not sure how much ivy bridge will need, then really, you might as well just build a whole new system rather than 'upgrade.' Then you can give your current computer to the most deserving person you like. Or sell it for more than its worth to some sucker, I suppose. No reason to wait on the monitor upgrade if you're unhappy with your current one though. | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
Looking up load power consumption on anantech, I see that the 7950 sits somewhere around 350w load and the 7970 sits around 390w http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/amd-radeon-7950-review/16 I realize that these benchmarks are probably done with processors that use more power than an i3-2100, but still those numbers are a little scary coming from a 380w psu. Is that number an average power consumption value or is it peak power consumption? I also run quite a few USB powered peripherals. Am I really going to be okay just upgrading GPU/monitor and nothing else? What is the worst case scenario if I exceed 380w load? Will my PSU just die or is it going to explode and set my apartment on fire | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 13 2012 03:51 Wangsta wrote:+ Show Spoiler + About the power supply... Looking up load power consumption on anantech, I see that the 7950 sits somewhere around 350w load and the 7970 sits around 390w http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/amd-radeon-7950-review/16 I realize that these benchmarks are probably done with processors that use more power than an i3-2100, but still those numbers are a little scary coming from a 380w psu. Is that number an average power consumption value or is it peak power consumption? I also run quite a few USB powered peripherals. Am I really going to be okay just upgrading GPU/monitor and nothing else? What is the worst case scenario if I exceed 380w load? Will my PSU just die or is it going to explode and set my apartment on fire Anandtech provides graphs for under load during a gaming scenario and under load during Furmark (100% GPU usage). These figures are measured in AC (measured at the wall), your power supply is DC. If you take the figures at face value (so your power supply is 100% efficient) then you still have some headroom as you have a Sandybridge core i3 while Anandtech uses an overclocked Sandybridge-E (hex core with hyperthreading), the difference between these two processors is easily 100w or more (easily three times more). USB runs off the 5v rail. Most other components such as GPU and CPU run off 12v. The 380w value on your Earthwatts and any other quality unit is rated for continuous so there's not going to be a nuclear meltdown if you exceed this value slightly. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On March 13 2012 03:51 Wangsta wrote: About the power supply... Looking up load power consumption on anantech, I see that the 7950 sits somewhere around 350w load and the 7970 sits around 390w http://www.anandtech.com/show/5476/amd-radeon-7950-review/16 I realize that these benchmarks are probably done with processors that use more power than an i3-2100, but still those numbers are a little scary coming from a 380w psu. Is that number an average power consumption value or is it peak power consumption? I also run quite a few USB powered peripherals. Am I really going to be okay just upgrading GPU/monitor and nothing else? What is the worst case scenario if I exceed 380w load? Will my PSU just die or is it going to explode and set my apartment on fire Let me help you feel safer about this: 1) Their system is using a Core i7-3960X @ 4.3GHz on a EVGA X79 SLI. The CPU alone probably draws more than twice as much power than the i3, probably triple. I'd expect ~100W under load for the 3960x [edit: at least] (i3 probably ~30-40). The mobo is also fancier with extra chipsets and stuff to power so that's another 20W easy over a basic H61. 2) That's total system power consumption from the wall. Even if the PSU is running at 90% efficiency at that load (It's a true power quattro, 80+ silver), that actually makes it ~351W. Subtract about 50W or more because of their CPU and mobo. You can expect ~300W under load with an i3, at most I would say - this with a stock 7970. Obviously this leaves little room for overclocking the 7970. I would overclock it but not over-volt it. And if you exceed 380W nothing bad happens, but don't do it continuously. The 380D is capable of being overloaded a bit, so it will be loud and the exhaust air will be hot. If you go too high, some protection will kick in and shut it down safely. But as explained above, you won't go over. | ||
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