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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 02:42:26
September 06 2011 02:42 GMT
#10781
On September 06 2011 10:37 MrEko wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
This is my first time building a computer. I have a build and answered the questions in the op. In choosing my components I went over budget and don't have a heatsink could you help me reduce the price? My only requirements not in the op's questions are the case and wireless for internet (not LAN file transfers). thanks in advance
+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
856$ including tax if that is not enough money tell me and ill wait a bit
What is your resolution?
1024x768
What are you using it for?
gaming: i hope to play SC2 on ultra and Skyrim and other similar games on reasonably high settings.
What is your upgrade cycle?
i hope longer than last time could i get a build that could play future games on a least low in 5+ years?
When do you plan on building it?
asap unless prices are expected to drop dramatically before November 11th
Do you plan on overclocking?
yeah
Do you need an Operating System?
yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
nope
Where are you buying your parts from?
ncix unless you think somewhere else is better

+ Show Spoiler +

case http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53537&vpn=DEFINE-R3-BLACK&manufacture=Fractal Design
114.99
ram http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41264&vpn=KVR1333D3N9K2/4G&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1360
19.99
mother http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59096&vpn=P67A-C43 (B3)&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar
119.99 (99.99)
2500k http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=Intel
238.98
windows http://ncix.com/products/productdetail2.php?noheader=1&sku=45271
111.30
hard drive http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58611&vpn=ST3500413AS&manufacture=Seagate
45.98
gpu http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55077&vpn=01G-P3-1370-TR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1370
149.99 (129.99)
wireless http://ncix.com/products/?sku=49999&vpn=PCE-N13&manufacture=ASUS
25.98
PSU http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62331&vpn=VP450&manufacture=Others
48.99

edit i think ill need something to get discounted shipping


Your total is about $876 right now. You aren't taking advantage of sale pricing or pricematching so your total can be a lot lower. In addition, a GTX 460 is overkill for 1024x768, it's an okay choice of a card if you plan on upgrading your monitor to 1080p but there are better choices than it though.

Intel Core i5 2500k & MSI P67 C43 @ $320 ($300 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62550&promoid=1370

Mushkin 2x4GB @ $38 ($33 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Corsair CX430 V2 @ $35
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60345&promoid=1370

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC9911 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402

Fractal Design Define R3 @ $115
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=53537

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $94 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-00599/MICROSOFT/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $149 (with promo code COLLEGETOUR11 ) ($119 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516

This comes to $791 before mail in rebates, taxes, and shipping. Slightly better power supply. Slightly better graphics card. More memory.

Add in your wireless for $26 and it becomes $817: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=49999

The easiest way to subtract from your total is to forget about overclocking or get a less expensive case.

The Bitfenix Shinobi is a nice in-expensive case for $50: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&promoid=1370 Though it isn't sound dampening like the Fractal Design Define R3 but it would take more than $50 off your total.

You also don't have a DVD burner, don't know if you need one but if you do than that's another $17: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60857&promoid=1370

You also don't have an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking which is another $24 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC8843 ): http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337

If you take away overclocking and go down to a Core i5 2400 and a H61 / H67 motherboard than that would take roughly $60 off the total.

If you know you are never going to get a new monitor with a higher resolution than you could get a weaker graphics card and still be capable of playing current and upcoming games on reasonably high settings at your current resolution. The Radeon HD6850 that is recommended is capable of playing current and upcoming games on reasonably high settings at 1080p.

Take note that some of these sales end on Wednesday.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
September 06 2011 05:04 GMT
#10782
I'm looking into getting a 27in Monitor. I'll have a 560ti with my new computer build and was wondering if it'd be able to push high settings pretty easy in SC II, WoW, and The Old Republic when it comes out.
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
September 06 2011 05:09 GMT
#10783
On September 06 2011 14:04 SleepTech wrote:
I'm looking into getting a 27in Monitor. I'll have a 560ti with my new computer build and was wondering if it'd be able to push high settings pretty easy in SC II, WoW, and The Old Republic when it comes out.

I know you'll get a better answer than this, but I've been seeing a lot of videos on YouTube of people showing off their build, etc., and a lot of gaming builds have a 560Ti running a lot of modern games (e.g. Battlefield: Bad Company 2, StarCraft II, etc.) on maxed or almost maxed settings while getting a respectable framerate.
DONTPANIC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States340 Posts
September 06 2011 05:10 GMT
#10784
What is your budget?
$500.00-900.00

What is your resolution?
Will be upgrading to 1920 x 1080 I have a 19” and a 32” to plug into it. A Sony Bravia 32” and an Acer x193wb at the moment.


What are you using it for?

Strictly gaming. I can not run Deus Ex on my current computer. I would like to play Diablo3 and Battlefield3 when they come out all maxed out.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2.5 years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not unless I have to.

Do you need an Operating System?

Gah. Is Win 7 really that good? I’ll have to add that.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

The eventuality of two GPUs is probable.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg unless you have a better idea.

I currently have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229038
and would like to use as much of it as possible. Case is good, PSU, DVDs, HD (recently replaced).
The universe is big. Really big.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
September 06 2011 05:15 GMT
#10785
On September 06 2011 14:09 LazyMacro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 14:04 SleepTech wrote:
I'm looking into getting a 27in Monitor. I'll have a 560ti with my new computer build and was wondering if it'd be able to push high settings pretty easy in SC II, WoW, and The Old Republic when it comes out.

I know you'll get a better answer than this, but I've been seeing a lot of videos on YouTube of people showing off their build, etc., and a lot of gaming builds have a 560Ti running a lot of modern games (e.g. Battlefield: Bad Company 2, StarCraft II, etc.) on maxed or almost maxed settings while getting a respectable framerate.


Yea, I know it'll run those games great and all, but was just wondering about it running them great on a 27in monitor or if it even matters since it'd run it at 1920x1080.

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 06 2011 05:18 GMT
#10786
Ya... a GTX 560 Ti is definitely capable of running current and upcoming games on reasonably high settings at 1080p. I don't know why you would doubt this and I don't know why you are going to purchase a 27" with a 1080p resolution since it's going to be pretty terrible.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
September 06 2011 05:24 GMT
#10787
On September 06 2011 14:18 skyR wrote:
Ya... a GTX 560 Ti is definitely capable of running current and upcoming games on reasonably high settings at 1080p. I don't know why you would doubt this and I don't know why you are going to purchase a 27" with a 1080p resolution since it's going to be pretty terrible.


Because I need more info about monitors and am stupid about it. What would be a good resolution on a 27 in monitor? Is it even worth buying a 27 in monitor for mostly gaming/surfing/and some photo editing.

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#10788
27" resolution is 2560x1440. Not much choices here, you have either the Dell U2711, Apple Thunderbolt, NEC PA271W, and maybe some others? All of which cost somewhere around $1000. Probably not worth it to you? For most people, it's best to just get a single or two 22" - 24" 1920x1200 / 1080 monitor.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 06:02:55
September 06 2011 05:58 GMT
#10789
On September 06 2011 14:40 skyR wrote:
27" resolution is 2560x1440. Not much choices here, you have either the Dell U2711, Apple Thunderbolt, NEC PA271W, and maybe some others? All of which cost somewhere around $1000. Probably not worth it to you? For most people, it's best to just get a single or two 22" - 24" 1920x1200 / 1080 monitor.


Ok, Thanks.

The monitor I was looking at was at Best Buy for like $400. I believe it was this one:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung - 350 Series 27" LED Monitor/2602307.p?id=1218339239795&skuId=2602307

I thought it looked cool, nice and big. I'm saving up for my computer I'm going to build so I was looking at monitors to throw into the budget. It looks like the 1920x1080 is max resolution with this one. I may just go with a 24in monitor if it won't look the greatest at 27in.

This is the reason why I ask first, simply because I'm ignorant of monitors and what to use. I'd rather ask here, then buy it and learn the hard way.

As I read up on it, it doesn't even have HD.
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 06:27:41
September 06 2011 06:24 GMT
#10790
On September 06 2011 14:10 DONTPANIC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
$500.00-900.00

What is your resolution?
Will be upgrading to 1920 x 1080 I have a 19” and a 32” to plug into it. A Sony Bravia 32” and an Acer x193wb at the moment.


What are you using it for?

Strictly gaming. I can not run Deus Ex on my current computer. I would like to play Diablo3 and Battlefield3 when they come out all maxed out.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2.5 years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not unless I have to.

Do you need an Operating System?

Gah. Is Win 7 really that good? I’ll have to add that.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

The eventuality of two GPUs is probable.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg unless you have a better idea.

I currently have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229038
and would like to use as much of it as possible. Case is good, PSU, DVDs, HD (recently replaced).


crossfire is not the best deal, its better jus buy the actual hi-end card at that moment
overcloking in this days is so easy and will improve your performance a lot
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 06 2011 10:16 Gattaca.usa wrote:
Overclocking is really easy to do. for a modet OC like mine (4.4 GHz) all I did was go into the BIOS and change the multiplier to 44. I left the Vcore on auto and that's it.


if you could get windows in your university/college you only have to buy the i5
if dont want overclock just buy a h61/h67 motherboard remove the heatsink and a non-k i5 (i5 2300/2400/2500)

here a $798 configuration

i5 2500k and Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723046 $305

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 $28

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 $40

GIGABYTE GTX 560 Ti 1GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363 $235(30MIR)

ASRock P67 PRO3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 $120(10MIR)

XFX Core Edition PRO550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013 $70(15MIR)



Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 07:27:25
September 06 2011 07:21 GMT
#10791
@Skyr
Apple Thunderbolt doesn't work with PCs/consoles since they don't have Thunderbolt. If you are getting an Apple 27" display for a PC, it must be the old DisplayPort model

On September 06 2011 14:58 SleepTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 14:40 skyR wrote:
27" resolution is 2560x1440. Not much choices here, you have either the Dell U2711, Apple Thunderbolt, NEC PA271W, and maybe some others? All of which cost somewhere around $1000. Probably not worth it to you? For most people, it's best to just get a single or two 22" - 24" 1920x1200 / 1080 monitor.


Ok, Thanks.

The monitor I was looking at was at Best Buy for like $400. I believe it was this one:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung - 350 Series 27" LED Monitor/2602307.p?id=1218339239795&skuId=2602307

I thought it looked cool, nice and big. I'm saving up for my computer I'm going to build so I was looking at monitors to throw into the budget. It looks like the 1920x1080 is max resolution with this one. I may just go with a 24in monitor if it won't look the greatest at 27in.

This is the reason why I ask first, simply because I'm ignorant of monitors and what to use. I'd rather ask here, then buy it and learn the hard way.

As I read up on it, it doesn't even have HD.


Go into a store and take a look at the monitors. Do you buy high end speakers or televisions by listing to random strangers on the internet? No you don't, you go into a specialty store and take a look at the products on offer so you know whether or not you like them. For instance I love Klipsch speakers but a lot of people absolutely cannot stand the tweeters they use and they won't know this unless they've tested them in a store.
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
September 06 2011 07:47 GMT
#10792
On September 06 2011 16:21 Womwomwom wrote:

Go into a store and take a look at the monitors. Do you buy high end speakers or televisions by listing to random strangers on the internet? No you don't, you go into a specialty store and take a look at the products on offer so you know whether or not you like them. For instance I love Klipsch speakers but a lot of people absolutely cannot stand the tweeters they use and they won't know this unless they've tested them in a store.


Well, I did that. As I stated in another post above, I had went into Best Buy, saw the 27 in, thought it'd look nice and be nice to have. I was just getting some more information on a monitor and how it would work with a 560ti. I would rather make an informed purchase rather then say 'Oh pretty!, I'll take that one' which was my first inclination. Just getting facts now.

I do have some good feedback to go off of now and probably won't purchase the 27in but rather go for a 23 or 24.

All the help is appreciated.


locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
September 06 2011 09:13 GMT
#10793
HI TL its Loco~
u guys probably don't know me unless u play league of legends,but i was the original AD carry for Team Solo Mid. i used to be the #1 watched streamer for league of legends but due to school + my laptop constantly overheating i stopped streaming. recently i been given 700$ to build a pc so i could stream again. i would love to start streaming again so yea could u guys help me build a computer?
one thing to note, i live in korea so i can't buy through neweggs,could u guys help me come up with a part list and ill buy it through http://www.danawa.com/ basically a korean neweggs


What is your budget?

700$,i have a keyboard and a mouse,ill be buying the monitor seperately so no need to include the price

What is your resolution?

im not too savvy with computers what i do know is i currently play on a 1600 x 900 16 inch laptop and i would like to play on a 22 inch monitor

What are you using it for?

playing league of legends and streaming

What is your upgrade cycle?

doesn't really matter i need something that can stream league of legends at 60 fps w/o lagging,ill probably upgrade when i can't play league o legends on it anymore

When do you plan on building it?

i would like to build it asap

Do you plan on overclocking?

nope

Do you need an Operating System?

yes i would like to buy w7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

nope

Where are you buying your parts from?

http://pcshop.danawa.com/
or if some1 can recommend me a better korean site i'd be down

thnx tl~
i wish riot would give me better ping
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
September 06 2011 09:23 GMT
#10794
On September 06 2011 16:47 SleepTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 16:21 Womwomwom wrote:

Go into a store and take a look at the monitors. Do you buy high end speakers or televisions by listing to random strangers on the internet? No you don't, you go into a specialty store and take a look at the products on offer so you know whether or not you like them. For instance I love Klipsch speakers but a lot of people absolutely cannot stand the tweeters they use and they won't know this unless they've tested them in a store.


Well, I did that. As I stated in another post above, I had went into Best Buy, saw the 27 in, thought it'd look nice and be nice to have. I was just getting some more information on a monitor and how it would work with a 560ti. I would rather make an informed purchase rather then say 'Oh pretty!, I'll take that one' which was my first inclination. Just getting facts now.

I do have some good feedback to go off of now and probably won't purchase the 27in but rather go for a 23 or 24.

All the help is appreciated.


The thing is, that is literally how you buy a modern day TN monitor. You look at a monitor and decide whether or not its pretty or not. There isn't anything to be informed about because its low end consumer technology at this stage.

That Samsung you looked at is perfectly fine. I have no idea what you mean by "it doesn't have HD" because it definitely does 1080P and it definitely has HDCP through DVI. If you like it, and you can't find a better deal elsewhere, then you probably won't be disappointed with your purchase.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 12:38:31
September 06 2011 12:38 GMT
#10795
Yeah, if a display looks good to your eyes, who cares what a spec sheet says? And who cares what a spec sheet says if it looks like crap? It's like the one piece of hardware you should buy off of nothing but subjective impressions.

The only objective considerations are support and warranty.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 12:51:43
September 06 2011 12:51 GMT
#10796
@locodoco

I dont know of any koreans speakers that come on this thread, so the parts you would need basicly are :

i5-2400
cheapest h61 motherboard
4-8 gb ram depeding on price
for lol i guess a gtx460 or even gts450 would be more then plenty ...
any 7200 RPM hard drive
xfx 450w power suply, or could you find the page where they are and link it to us rather ?
and for the case that's your personnal choice
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
DONTPANIC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States340 Posts
September 06 2011 14:27 GMT
#10797
On September 06 2011 15:24 CuraOh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 14:10 DONTPANIC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
$500.00-900.00

What is your resolution?
Will be upgrading to 1920 x 1080 I have a 19” and a 32” to plug into it. A Sony Bravia 32” and an Acer x193wb at the moment.


What are you using it for?

Strictly gaming. I can not run Deus Ex on my current computer. I would like to play Diablo3 and Battlefield3 when they come out all maxed out.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2.5 years

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not unless I have to.

Do you need an Operating System?

Gah. Is Win 7 really that good? I’ll have to add that.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

The eventuality of two GPUs is probable.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg unless you have a better idea.

I currently have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229038
and would like to use as much of it as possible. Case is good, PSU, DVDs, HD (recently replaced).


crossfire is not the best deal, its better jus buy the actual hi-end card at that moment
overcloking in this days is so easy and will improve your performance a lot
+ Show Spoiler +

On September 06 2011 10:16 Gattaca.usa wrote:
Overclocking is really easy to do. for a modet OC like mine (4.4 GHz) all I did was go into the BIOS and change the multiplier to 44. I left the Vcore on auto and that's it.


if you could get windows in your university/college you only have to buy the i5
if dont want overclock just buy a h61/h67 motherboard remove the heatsink and a non-k i5 (i5 2300/2400/2500)

here a $798 configuration

i5 2500k and Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723046 $305

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 $28

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 $40

GIGABYTE GTX 560 Ti 1GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363 $235(30MIR)

ASRock P67 PRO3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 $120(10MIR)

XFX Core Edition PRO550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013 $70(15MIR)






Thanks for your input! That's almost what I all ready had selected!.
The universe is big. Really big.
mojachiee
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom5 Posts
September 06 2011 15:40 GMT
#10798
What is your budget?
£550

What is your resolution?
around 1366x768
But the higher the better

What are you using it for?

Gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?

I normally don't upgrade for a while (around 2-3 years)

When do you plan on building it?

Around a month

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes windows 7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No i would prefer 1 powerful card to 2 less powerful cards

Where are you buying your parts from?

I'm not sure i might buy a few parts from best buy or order online
(if anyone can suggest somewhere tell me I live in britian)

Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
September 06 2011 16:07 GMT
#10799
@mojachiee

When you say "But the higher the better" for your resolution, do you mean you'll be upgrading your monitor? Do you expect that budget to include a monitor? This is crucial.

Also, if you're planning on building in a month, come back at most 1 week before you plan to place your order. Pricing&sales will most likely change by then.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
mojachiee
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom5 Posts
September 06 2011 16:14 GMT
#10800
On September 07 2011 01:07 Wabbit wrote:
@mojachiee

When you say "But the higher the better" for your resolution, do you mean you'll be upgrading your monitor? Do you expect that budget to include a monitor? This is crucial.

Also, if you're planning on building in a month, come back at most 1 week before you plan to place your order. Pricing&sales will most likely change by then.


I don't include the monitor in the budget.
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