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skyR

Canada13817 Posts

September 05 2011 21:25 GMT

#10761

On September 06 2011 06:23 lac29 wrote:
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On August 29 2011 09:08 Myrmidon wrote:
Depending on the kind of Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign work, I think it's probably worth spending a little more on 2x4GB DDR3 RAM. It's still in the $400 budget.

If you're serious about just low settings, you can change the graphics card to a HD 5570 (about $55), which will handle that easily.

edit: power supply is way overkill for the setups we're looking at

Hey Myr,

Just to give you an update ... I got all the components I mentioned in prev posts and it turns out the PSU is bad. When I turn it on, my case power light turns on (blue) but there is no sound at all coming from the system, no PSU fan wurring, no peep from the motherboard or any component at all, just that blue power light on the case. I used a friends PSU which was rated at 500W (also Antec ... and bronze rated or something) ... his is known to work ... and my setup did work with his PSU. I just want to double check that my setup (380 Antec bronze rated) can handle all my components ...

Should I simply ask for a replacement? Or should I get a refund and order a different PSU?

Again this is my PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

And here is the whole setup:

HD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417
CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078
GFX - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102874
motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
optical - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
power - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033
case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

Yes it is... you can run that on a 100w power supply if you wanted to.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

September 05 2011 21:31 GMT

#10762

Your computer wouldn't use 150W fully loaded, and that's a decent model that can really do 380W in spec. Delta, the OEM for the Earthwatts Green lineup, has some of the best build quality and quality control out of all power supply manufacturers, but there's always a dud that slips through.

Try connecting the power supply to a case fan (and nothing else), taking the 24-pin ATX motherboard connector, and shorting the green wire with any black wire with a metal paperclip or something similar, and turning the power supply on (plugged in obviously). If it doesn't spin up then, then it's definitely the PSU at fault and you should RMA it or otherwise get a replacement.

lac29

United States1485 Posts

September 05 2011 21:32 GMT

#10763

Edit:

Myr: Ok, I'll try that.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

September 05 2011 21:33 GMT

#10764

You can get a different one, but this model isn't bad. For the price, it's probably the best available for that kind of computer.

hyshes

Belgium428 Posts

September 05 2011 21:39 GMT

#10765

Ok after the great respones i got (thanks deconduo , Myrmidon and Rachnar for that) i got this build:

I took a bit higher processor (i7 instead i5), more RAM and bigger SSD (i've counted it and my frequent used programs is something like 80GB.. so with 120GB not much room to wiggle) . Is this build viable?

These changes are for the future, because don't want to upgrade for 2 years

Intel Core i7-2600 Box, LGA1155 €236,38

what is difference with Intel Core i7-2600K Box, LGA1155 (€252,72)?

Samsung SH-222AB bare schwarz SATA €16.64

LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray Brenner bulk €71,39

Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD103SJ) €46.19

ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3), Sockel 1155, ATX €127.49

Club 3D Radeon 6950 2048MB, AMD Radeon HD 6950, PCI-Express €215.24

XFX PRO650W Core Edition Full Wired Power Supply €66.90

3 x BenQ G2420HD €141.78

16GB-4x-Kit Corsair PC1333 CL9 Dominator € 150,85

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch €83.32

Scythe Mugen 3, für alle Sockel geeignet €34.95

FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse DEFINE XL Black Pearl €123.41

Crucial M4 256GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5") €317.09

Total €1915.19
But need a tv thing.. do i need another graphic card for this? or is this something else?

Laptop: (prefer 15.6" forgot to mention that)
ASUS X5MSN-SX098V €999

Seems i got something like €500 to spare. Will buy some gaming gear and new games with that :p Anyone knows a good wireless headset?

thanks.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

September 05 2011 21:46 GMT

#10766

The 2600k has a stronger IGP (which you won't use) and an unlocked multiplier (which is used for overclocking).

Since you have an aftermarket heatsink and a P67 board, I'm assuming you are overclocking so you need the 2600k.

Rachnar

France1526 Posts

September 05 2011 21:46 GMT

#10767

http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_ordinateurs_puis_rubrique_est_wport_puis_ref_est_in10052642.html

heres a much better laptop for just 50 euros more, the gpu is much much better (will run sc2 on ultra without any problem)

or if you dont need that much power

http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_ordinateurs_puis_rubrique_est_wport_puis_ref_est_in10051730.html

670euros and still very good

LazyMacro

976 Posts

September 05 2011 21:52 GMT

#10768

With regards to gaming, how much of a performance gain do you get from overclocking? I'm considering not overclocking (I've never done it before) and instead saving on price a little.

Edit: I guess what I mean is, is the extra cost required to overclock worth the performance gain?

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

September 05 2011 21:54 GMT

#10769

On September 06 2011 06:52 LazyMacro wrote:
With regards to gaming, how much of a performance gain do you get from overclocking? I'm considering not overclocking (I've never done it before) and instead saving on price a little.

Varies from game to game. You'll gain more in CPU dependent games. Here's an article showing various clock speeds in some games: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2

Rachnar

France1526 Posts

September 05 2011 21:54 GMT

#10770

for gaming, not much

LazyMacro

976 Posts

September 05 2011 22:00 GMT

#10771

Hm, maybe I shouldn't go for overclocking then. It would save some money on the processor, motherboard, and heat sink.

Instead of an i5 2500K, I would want a 2400, right? But what about the motherboard? I was intending to get a P67 but if I decide not to overclock then I'd want a different chipset, right?

CuraOh

Chile81 Posts

September 05 2011 22:01 GMT

#10772

skyr give this page
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x.html
page 9

soft OC 25%
medium oc 35%

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

September 05 2011 22:02 GMT

#10773

You mean shouldn't go for overclocking?

If you don't want to overclock than you would want the H61 or H67 chipset. And yes instead of the 2500k, you would want a 2400 or any other processor with no K suffix.

LazyMacro

976 Posts

September 05 2011 22:04 GMT

#10774

On September 06 2011 07:02 skyR wrote:
You mean shouldn't go for overclocking?

If you don't want to overclock than you would want the H61 or H67 chipset. And yes instead of the 2500k, you would want a 2400 or any other processor with no K suffix.

Er, yeah that's what I meant. Proofreading fail.

Is there any major difference between the H61 and H67 chipset?

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

September 05 2011 22:05 GMT

#10775

H61 chipset doesn't provide SATA 6Gbps. Though some manufacturers use another chipset to provide it. H67 provides it natively.

LazyMacro

976 Posts

September 05 2011 22:12 GMT

#10776

That's SATAIII, right?

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

September 05 2011 22:16 GMT

#10777

Yes.

LazyMacro

976 Posts

September 05 2011 22:19 GMT

#10778

Alright, thanks.

I really think I need to decide exactly what I want before I go building anything. I've been really indecisive. Half the questions from the OP I answer with "I don't know." All I know is there's no way I'm buying a pre built computer.

Gattaca.usa

131 Posts

September 06 2011 01:16 GMT

#10779

Overclocking is really easy to do. for a modet OC like mine (4.4 GHz) all I did was go into the BIOS and change the multiplier to 44. I left the Vcore on auto and that's it.

Then you just need to run a few test to make sure it is stable and then you're done.

I have a 2500k @ 4.4GHz
8 GB 1333 RAM
AMD 6950 1GB

I run SC2 on MAX settings in windowed (full screen) and using the in game FPS thing it is like 100+ it runs so smoothly it's awesome.

I'm sure if I started streaming that the FPS would go down but still really high like 50FPS.

MrEko

Canada37 Posts

September 06 2011 01:37 GMT

#10780

This is my first time building a computer. I have a build and answered the questions in the op. In choosing my components I went over budget and don't have a heatsink could you help me reduce the price? My only requirements not in the op's questions are the case and wireless for internet (not LAN file transfers). thanks in advance
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What is your budget?
856$ including tax if that is not enough money tell me and ill wait a bit
What is your resolution?
1024x768
What are you using it for?
gaming: i hope to play SC2 on ultra and Skyrim and other similar games on reasonably high settings.
What is your upgrade cycle?
i hope longer than last time could i get a build that could play future games on a least low in 5+ years?
When do you plan on building it?
asap unless prices are expected to drop dramatically before November 11th
Do you plan on overclocking?
yeah
Do you need an Operating System?
yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
nope
Where are you buying your parts from?
ncix unless you think somewhere else is better

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