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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 07:01:53
August 20 2011 07:01 GMT
#9941
On August 20 2011 15:33 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 14:51 pey24 wrote:
On August 20 2011 14:30 skyR wrote:
If your $1000 budget doesn't involve the monitor or keyboard than yes you can easily fit the 2500k into it. If the budget must include the monitor and keyboard than yes you can still squeeze it in if you are able to get an operating system for free through MSDNAA or at student pricing.

Your final configuration with a 2500k would be something like this for $848 before mail in rebates:

+ Show Spoiler +
Core i5 2500k @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

Antec High Current Gamer 520 @ $59
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047

EVGA GTX 560 Ti - AR @ $250 ($225 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604
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Unfortunately Newegg raised the pricing on this but if you want lifetime warranty than I guess this is worth it but if you don't care than I would recommend a Radeon HD6950 instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 or you can get the EVGA GTX 560 Ti -KR variant: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130623 or the Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363

This basically comes down to brand preference. Note that the 6950 is slightly better.

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238

Xigmatek Gaia @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082
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or the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ for $28: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Both perform basically the same. The Hyper 212+ is sort of complicated and a pain in the ass to install though.


Thank you so so much for your help tho
some more question, will Monitor: Asus VH232H 23” 1920x1080 fit with this build
and
If i want to go down for core i5 2400 what the build should be since i have no idea about OCing at all. T-T
PS have to wait for next week for school start and ask about MSDNAA account if i would be able to get one.


Just in case it's not obvious, any student should be able to get a discounted Windows 7 for about $30 through the bookstore, even if you don't qualify for the free program. Anyone with a .edu e-mail address (or a friend with one) can order a copy of windows 7 professional ("upgrade", but it's the full program) from the Windows website for a $30 download.


Wow I didn't know that. I have a .edu email but I'll finish school in a week or so.

Just to confirm, even if it says it is "upgrade", if I order the back up disc I should be able to use that to install Win7 Pro on my newly built PC?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 20 2011 07:02 GMT
#9942
Yes, see here: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html
nicebuffalo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States27 Posts
August 20 2011 07:30 GMT
#9943
can somebody help me build a pc? my budget is 700 bucks and i play on 1680x1050. im gonna use this for gaming, so i want a beefy graphics card (preferably manufactured by evga) and a quad core amd processor.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 08:22:04
August 20 2011 08:16 GMT
#9944
Almost any graphics card over $140 can run 1680x1080 smoothly. Is there a particular reason you want a Quad Core AMD over Intel?

If you must have EVGA this is probably the best "beefy" graphics card for your resolution.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130591

Might be overkill for StarCraft 2, so could you please specify what games you are planning to play? GTS 450 could be a viable option if you are not into serious graphics.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130572

Decent AMD quad core:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103923
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Mr. Elusive
Profile Joined May 2010
United States26 Posts
August 20 2011 09:18 GMT
#9945
Hey, I heard there were some wonderful people here, and I'd love your help =)

I am about to go back to college, and I am completely sick of my horrible laptop giving me 5fps when I try to play Starcraft on the lowest settings. I honestly don't know where to start, so any help would be fantastic.
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
I'd like to spend around $700, but am willing to spend ~800 if it's required for what I want.

What is your resolution?
My resolution will be 1920x1080, through an HDMI cable.. if that matters

What are you using it for?
I intend to be playing many a game on it (d3, starcraft 2, counterstrike GO, tf2, skyrim, dota2 etc.) If at all possible, I would like to be able to stream what I'm playing.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I don't want to have to look around for a new computer/parts for at least 2 years, more if possible

When do you plan on building it?
a month from now, most likely. Might be sooner because I just love what I see in this thread =)

Do you plan on overclocking?
nope. Not unless it's required to stay in budget. I don't have experience with overclocking.

Do you need an Operating System?
no, I will deal with that when I get there. I think I can get a cheap one from the comp store on campus.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg, probably. I don't know of a place that has better prices. Maybe a cheap piece from Bestbuy because I have a giftcard. XD

I think that's all the questions. I hope the price range is feasible for what I want to do with it.

That said, I love you guys and what you do for all these people. It's like giving someone a color-within-the-lines book for building a computer.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 20 2011 09:25 GMT
#9946
On August 20 2011 18:18 Mr. Elusive wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey, I heard there were some wonderful people here, and I'd love your help =)

I am about to go back to college, and I am completely sick of my horrible laptop giving me 5fps when I try to play Starcraft on the lowest settings. I honestly don't know where to start, so any help would be fantastic.
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
I'd like to spend around $700, but am willing to spend ~800 if it's required for what I want.

What is your resolution?
My resolution will be 1920x1080, through an HDMI cable.. if that matters

What are you using it for?
I intend to be playing many a game on it (d3, starcraft 2, counterstrike GO, tf2, skyrim, dota2 etc.) If at all possible, I would like to be able to stream what I'm playing.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I don't want to have to look around for a new computer/parts for at least 2 years, more if possible

When do you plan on building it?
a month from now, most likely. Might be sooner because I just love what I see in this thread =)

Do you plan on overclocking?
nope. Not unless it's required to stay in budget. I don't have experience with overclocking.

Do you need an Operating System?
no, I will deal with that when I get there. I think I can get a cheap one from the comp store on campus.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg, probably. I don't know of a place that has better prices. Maybe a cheap piece from Bestbuy because I have a giftcard. XD

I think that's all the questions. I hope the price range is feasible for what I want to do with it.

That said, I love you guys and what you do for all these people. It's like giving someone a color-within-the-lines book for building a computer.


$678 before mail in rebates, capable of playing current and upcoming games on reasonably high settings at 1080p and streaming.

Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

Antec High Current Gamer 520 @ $59
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047

Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $175 ($155 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 10:35:43
August 20 2011 10:33 GMT
#9947
On August 20 2011 17:16 epikAnglory wrote:
Almost any graphics card over $140 can run 1680x1080 smoothly. Is there a particular reason you want a Quad Core AMD over Intel?

If you must have EVGA this is probably the best "beefy" graphics card for your resolution.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130591

Might be overkill for StarCraft 2, so could you please specify what games you are planning to play? GTS 450 could be a viable option if you are not into serious graphics.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130572

Decent AMD quad core:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103923


Hhhhmmm no, the GTX460 SE sucks hardcore, a 6850 or normal gtx460 would be much better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908
(same price and oh so better)

and that cpu isnt bad but, its a simply an overclocked x4 955 ..... so useless to pay a premium for that .....
especially when the x6 1090t is the exact same price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Hedgehog
Profile Joined May 2011
Macedonia73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 12:50:40
August 20 2011 12:41 GMT
#9948
I have a budget of around 1000$. I'm about to build a new machine but I am not in to the overclocking biz.

And I am having problems choosing a GFX

Current(possible) setup is:

MB:Asus P8P67 LE

CPU: Sandy Bridge core i3 2100(box)

RAM: Kingston HyperX Genesis 2x2 gb

HDD: WD 500GB at 7200rpm with 16mb cash

PSU: 500w CoolerMaster along with a case

I have few options to choose from:

Asus GTS 450 1GB gddr5 price ~120Euro

Asus GTX 550 Ti 1GB gddr5 ~ 145Euro

Asus GTX 560 DC/2di 1GB gddr5 ~ 155 Euro

With the aforementioned parts which gfx i should go for?

Bear in mind that All major pc parts sites don't ship to Macedonia which is a bummer and I have pretty limited offer to choose from.

I'm making this for 1440x900 resolution.

Thanks in advance


P.S. : It's mainly for video games and some amateur scripting.
Divide et impera
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 20 2011 13:18 GMT
#9949
For such a low resolution, a GTS 450 is adequate for reasonably high settings on current and upcoming games. The GTX 560 is a card meant for 1080p. The GTX 550 Ti is just poorly priced as it's just slightly better than a GTS 450 but much worse than a GTX 560.

P67 boards are primarily for overclocking so if you are not interested in overclocking than you would want a H61 or H67 motherboard.

Coolermaster power supplies are generally shit, especially ones that are included with their cases. I would advise looking into purchasing a separate power supply such as a Corsair CX430 V2 or Antec Earthwatts 380D / 430D.
Hedgehog
Profile Joined May 2011
Macedonia73 Posts
August 20 2011 13:54 GMT
#9950
Thanks a lot for your input skyR. I will have this in mind when I go to the store next week.
Divide et impera
PurpleStop
Profile Joined August 2011
United States11 Posts
August 20 2011 14:14 GMT
#9951
I have been a reader of this forum for a long time, just now decided to post since you guys have been giving a lot of good info.


Questions Answered
+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

Ideally I would like to spend $500 to $750, however I could go up to 1k if need be.

What is your resolution?

I don't know. I don't think this is too big a deal for me. Currently I am at 1280 x 1024.

What are you using it for?

I don't care too much how my games look, I am more interested in performance. Performance is key.

Ill be playing SC2 and Diablo 3.

I use Photoshop and Gimp, I do some minor video editing. I will be streaming movies from the internet.

I will also use the computer for work, internet stuff, and want it to run smooth. I have been using second rate computers for some time now.

What is your upgrade cycle?

In the past I have upgraded every 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

I will build it in a week or two.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I don't know anything about this. However if it is recommended I can figure it out.

Do you need an Operating System?

I will do the windows 7 thing through my brother .edu email address.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I don't know anything about this. However if it is recommended I can figure it out.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Microcenter is down the street I like the idea of picking everything up, however I will buy from where ever is cheaper.


Thank you for your help I have learned a lot from just reading past posts

Should I just use this? as above? Or should I switch out some parts. Thanks in advance.

+ Show Spoiler +

Core i5 2400 @ $190

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $45

Antec High Current Gamer 520 @ $59

Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $175 ($155 after mail in rebate)

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)

DVD Burner @ $19
"The only thing greater than man... is money"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 20 2011 14:27 GMT
#9952
You want to purchase the processor at Microcenter and possibly a motherboard if they have a processor + motherboard promo going on. Everything else should be bought from Newegg or another e-tailer that offers lower pricing.

Well if high settings aren't important to you than you could make do with a Radeon HD5770 or GTS 450. If you have no intention of upgrading your monitor to say a 1080p monitor than you can even get a Radeon HD5670 or even a HD5570.
pey24
Profile Joined August 2011
United States8 Posts
August 20 2011 14:57 GMT
#9953
Thank you all so much this community help me a lot ( ̄▽ ̄)
Gattaca.usa
Profile Joined October 2010
131 Posts
August 20 2011 15:23 GMT
#9954
would waiting until labor day be a wise decision? usually there are good sales over labor day weekend right?
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
August 20 2011 15:29 GMT
#9955
On August 21 2011 00:23 Gattaca.usa wrote:
would waiting until labor day be a wise decision? usually there are good sales over labor day weekend right?


That's totally subjective. If you value having your computer soon, no. If you're okay with waiting, yes
SC2 ID: CharlieBrown.318, #1 bitbybit.Prime fan
PurpleStop
Profile Joined August 2011
United States11 Posts
August 20 2011 17:23 GMT
#9956
I could wait until labor day. That is not an issue. It really comes down to how much you think I could save waiting for labor day. If its only $50 than its not worth it. If its closer to $100 I would consider it.
"The only thing greater than man... is money"
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 18:53:37
August 20 2011 18:13 GMT
#9957
On August 21 2011 02:23 PurpleStop wrote:
I could wait until labor day. That is not an issue. It really comes down to how much you think I could save waiting for labor day. If its only $50 than its not worth it. If its closer to $100 I would consider it.


Well in your case, as you were considering a 1280X1024 screen, LCD monitors typically have huge savings during events like this, so you could probably save ~40-50 dollars on a 1080p monitor (in the 21-23 inch range)

It's usually peripherals that get the biggests savings (mice, keyboards, speakers, headsets, monitors), while core components don't get as much taken off

EDIT: I'd assume companies would be releasing their labour day flyers within the next couple weeks
SC2 ID: CharlieBrown.318, #1 bitbybit.Prime fan
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 20 2011 20:02 GMT
#9958
***Important notice to Intel 320 Series SSD users***

A couple of days ago (yeah I'm a couple days late updating mine) Intel released a firmware update that supposedly fixed the so-called "8MB bug" aka "Bad Context 13x Error." This wiped the data on the SSDs and made them unusable unless you did a secure erase on them. There was a rare issue when the drive powers down in a weird way that caused this to happen.

As with other Intel firmware updates, updating will not wipe the data on your drive. Regardless, it's still a good idea to back stuff up before updating. Standard procedure for updating: download the ISO with the firmware update, burn to CD, and boot and let it update. The update itself takes no more than a minute.

Info and download link:
http://communities.intel.com/thread/24205?tstart=0
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 20 2011 20:45 GMT
#9959
On August 20 2011 21:41 Hedgehog wrote:
I have a budget of around 1000$. I'm about to build a new machine but I am not in to the overclocking biz.

And I am having problems choosing a GFX

Current(possible) setup is:

MB:Asus P8P67 LE

CPU: Sandy Bridge core i3 2100(box)

RAM: Kingston HyperX Genesis 2x2 gb

HDD: WD 500GB at 7200rpm with 16mb cash

PSU: 500w CoolerMaster along with a case

I have few options to choose from:

Asus GTS 450 1GB gddr5 price ~120Euro

Asus GTX 550 Ti 1GB gddr5 ~ 145Euro

Asus GTX 560 DC/2di 1GB gddr5 ~ 155 Euro

With the aforementioned parts which gfx i should go for?

Bear in mind that All major pc parts sites don't ship to Macedonia which is a bummer and I have pretty limited offer to choose from.

I'm making this for 1440x900 resolution.

Thanks in advance


P.S. : It's mainly for video games and some amateur scripting.


I would go with the GTX 560 for sure. Although it's overkill for you specifically due to a lower resolution, it's such a better card than the GTS 450 and GTX 550ti, which both are overpriced. If you can find a cheaper GTS 450 or GTX 550ti then I might recommend them, but at those prices in particular the GTX 560 ist he best deal (wtf only 10 more than GTX 550 ti?).
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
August 20 2011 21:04 GMT
#9960
For those who are going to be a first time customer at newegg like me, they got a 12 month no interest plan plus they have the $15 off $100 going on right now which I think pops up here and there every month or so.
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