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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 20 2011 21:14 GMT
#9961
On August 21 2011 06:04 spybreak wrote:
For those who are going to be a first time customer at newegg like me, they got a 12 month no interest plan plus they have the $15 off $100 going on right now which I think pops up here and there every month or so.


Isn't that if you open up a credit card with them or something?
GFLOW
Profile Joined November 2010
United States48 Posts
August 20 2011 22:18 GMT
#9962
what temps are normal for video card running sc2 on ultra? I have the 6870. and it's around 78 degrees Celsius
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 20 2011 22:37 GMT
#9963
On August 21 2011 07:18 skip89w6 wrote:
what temps are normal for video card running sc2 on ultra? I have the 6870. and it's around 78 degrees Celsius

78 is quite fine 70-80c is where the card normally runs higher then that and it may be dust or case causing slightly higher temps but until it's like 85c i wouldn't worry too much.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 22:56:59
August 20 2011 22:55 GMT
#9964
I am looking for a High-end (but not ridiculously powerful) PC that is fully capable of playing StarCraft 2 AND record AND run audio programs AND browsers AND stream (basically what Day[9] does). I should probably add that I will only use Two monitors, and one will probably be very small. Plus I will be using some simple headphones, not an amazingly epic surround sound system.

RAM (I haven't found any, here are my specifications)
+ Show Spoiler +
Please reply with a link if anyone knows RAM that fits these standards:
8GB
1600+ MHz
DDR3
CAS Latency of 7 or less.

If so please find the cheapest model that fits those standards and the cheapest seller. Or just tell me the model and I'll find the cheapest seller myself. And, if I am being stupid and I don't need RAM that good, then tell me so.


CPU (Found one!)
+ Show Spoiler +
I found a CPU that I think will work (and perhaps kick ass too much. Here it is:

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX

Is that good enough? Too good? Feedback please.


That's all I'm looking for at the moment. Thanks!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 22:59:45
August 20 2011 22:58 GMT
#9965
Higher memory speeds and tighter timings makes a negligible difference so the smarter thing to do would be to spend the money that you would pay for a 1600mhz cas7 kit on something else such as a better GPU or CPU. You just want a 1333MHz or 1600MHz cas9 kit, whichever is less expensive.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377

The second generation Phenom processors suck. They're basically five years old in terms of aperformance sense.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x.html

You would want a core i5 2500k or core i7 2600k if you are going to be overclocking. If not, just the standard 2500 or 2600 without the K suffix.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
August 20 2011 23:45 GMT
#9966
I'm going with this for RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145346

And I think I'll go with i5 2500k for a processor. But, if the second generation Phenom processors are so bad, then why did the one I looked at get so many good reviews on amazon? Is amazon just bad for reviews?
benbrad2
Profile Joined June 2011
103 Posts
August 20 2011 23:52 GMT
#9967
can someone link me the fps performance difference between i3-2100 and i5-2500k?
thanks alot !
Whatsup
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 20 2011 23:56 GMT
#9968
On August 21 2011 08:52 benbrad2 wrote:
can someone link me the fps performance difference between i3-2100 and i5-2500k?
thanks alot !

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=289

Merry christmas.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 20 2011 23:57 GMT
#9969
On August 21 2011 08:45 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
I'm going with this for RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145346

And I think I'll go with i5 2500k for a processor. But, if the second generation Phenom processors are so bad, then why did the one I looked at get so many good reviews on amazon? Is amazon just bad for reviews?


Why are you basing purchasing decisions off reviews off Amazon or any e-tailer...? All e-tailer reviews are bad because not every consumer who purchases the product reviews it or have any technical knowledge at all.

The second generation Phenoms were released three years ago and occupied a price point that Intel did not really compete in... They were a decent choice back than for a budget build but currently Intel dominates every price point except for maybe the sub $70 market.


On August 21 2011 08:52 benbrad2 wrote:
can someone link me the fps performance difference between i3-2100 and i5-2500k?
thanks alot !


http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 00:13:17
August 21 2011 00:12 GMT
#9970
On August 21 2011 07:55 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
I am looking for a High-end (but not ridiculously powerful) PC that is fully capable of playing StarCraft 2 AND record AND run audio programs AND browsers AND stream (basically what Day[9] does). I should probably add that I will only use Two monitors, and one will probably be very small. Plus I will be using some simple headphones, not an amazingly epic surround sound system.

RAM (I haven't found any, here are my specifications)
+ Show Spoiler +
Please reply with a link if anyone knows RAM that fits these standards:
8GB
1600+ MHz
DDR3
CAS Latency of 7 or less.

If so please find the cheapest model that fits those standards and the cheapest seller. Or just tell me the model and I'll find the cheapest seller myself. And, if I am being stupid and I don't need RAM that good, then tell me so.


CPU (Found one!)
+ Show Spoiler +
I found a CPU that I think will work (and perhaps kick ass too much. Here it is:

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX

Is that good enough? Too good? Feedback please.


That's all I'm looking for at the moment. Thanks!


If you aren't going balls to the wall on other stuff, then buying a higher end RAM kit is completely ludicrous. The difference is so tiny that the money is invariably better spent elsewhere for performance, unless you're going crazy high end everything already.

And dual channel is better than single channel.
marroccooo
Profile Joined August 2011
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 01:54:08
August 21 2011 01:31 GMT
#9971
Hello I have heard nothing but good things from this forum, so I would love for input and help on building a budget gaming PC. I don't play anything to hard on graphics. Normally just HoN, TF2, SC2 and similar games.

+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
I want to spend around $600. Of course cheaper if its possible

What is your resolution?
Normally 1280x1024.

What are you using it for?
Mostly casual gaming. And normal computing needs.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I don't want to upgrade for at least 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP or within the next 2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?
I have no experience with it but if it helps the cost then i can learn.

Do you need a OS?
Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or crossfire?
No probably not.

Where are you buying components from?
Most likely newegg but if you have a better deal somewhere else im more than happy to use it.


Ok that should cover all the questions. I hope that this is possible with my budget. Having forums like this make the internet a much better place.

Also I live in Hawaii so I dont know if that will effect the shipping.
guMmiwormz
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States312 Posts
August 21 2011 01:37 GMT
#9972
I'm looking to buy a premade or custom pc, but i don't know where to start. I know everyone's going to tell me to build my own except I'm confident I would mess something up somewhere along the lines. Are there any affordable places to buy prebuilt or custom pc's?


Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 01:52:19
August 21 2011 01:51 GMT
#9973
I built my first computer this summer and had absolutely no experience. If I were you I'd go ahead and build your own. It took me a total of 2 hours to put it together once all the parts were here, and that was because I was being extra careful since it was my first time. It's quite simple. You basically just screw the motherboard into the case, and then plug labeled wires into their corresponding slots.
The hardest part is choosing which parts to buy, and the people here are awesome about helping out with that.
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
August 21 2011 01:53 GMT
#9974
On August 21 2011 10:37 guMmiwormz wrote:
I'm looking to buy a premade or custom pc, but i don't know where to start. I know everyone's going to tell me to build my own except I'm confident I would mess something up somewhere along the lines. Are there any affordable places to buy prebuilt or custom pc's?




Did you play with legos or k'nex as a kid? If so, you can build your own. Even if you didn't, there's still hope. Check out this video to see if it's something you would like to do:
+ Show Spoiler +


However, if you're absolutely sure you cannot possibly build one, you can pick out pieces on ncixus.com and have them assemble it for $50. Their pricing is a little worse than other US e-tailors though.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 21 2011 02:03 GMT
#9975
On August 21 2011 10:31 marroccooo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Hello I have heard nothing but good things from this forum, so I would love for input and help on building a budget gaming PC. I don't play anything to hard on graphics. Normally just HoN, TF2, SC2 and similar games.

+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
I want to spend around $600. Of course cheaper if its possible

What is your resolution?
Normally 1280x1024.

What are you using it for?
Mostly casual gaming. And normal computing needs.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I don't want to upgrade for at least 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP or within the next 2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?
I have no experience with it but if it helps the cost then i can learn.

Do you need a OS?
Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or crossfire?
No probably not.

Where are you buying components from?
Most likely newegg but if you have a better deal somewhere else im more than happy to use it.


Ok that should cover all the questions. I hope that this is possible with my budget. Having forums like this make the internet a much better place.

Also I live in Hawaii so I dont know if that will effect the shipping.


$437 before mail in rebates:

Core i3 2100 @ $115 (with promo code EMCKBJD44, ends 8/22)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

Asrock H61M @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

Corsair CX430 V2 @ $45 ($35 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Sapphire Radeon HD5670 @ $70 ($60 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102871

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $43
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Thermaltake V3 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238


If you want a quad core than you can get a core i5 2400 instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 but the promo makes the core i3 2100 a good deal for a casual budget gaming configuration.

If you plan on purchasing a new monitor anytime soon, I'd suggest a Radeon HD6850 instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 The 5670 will be capable of playing games on reasonably high settings at your current resolutions but will only be capable of playing games on low settings at 1080p.
marroccooo
Profile Joined August 2011
6 Posts
August 21 2011 02:26 GMT
#9976
On August 21 2011 11:03 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 10:31 marroccooo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Hello I have heard nothing but good things from this forum, so I would love for input and help on building a budget gaming PC. I don't play anything to hard on graphics. Normally just HoN, TF2, SC2 and similar games.

+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
I want to spend around $600. Of course cheaper if its possible

What is your resolution?
Normally 1280x1024.

What are you using it for?
Mostly casual gaming. And normal computing needs.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I don't want to upgrade for at least 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP or within the next 2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?
I have no experience with it but if it helps the cost then i can learn.

Do you need a OS?
Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or crossfire?
No probably not.

Where are you buying components from?
Most likely newegg but if you have a better deal somewhere else im more than happy to use it.


Ok that should cover all the questions. I hope that this is possible with my budget. Having forums like this make the internet a much better place.

Also I live in Hawaii so I dont know if that will effect the shipping.


$437 before mail in rebates:

Core i3 2100 @ $115 (with promo code EMCKBJD44, ends 8/22)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

Asrock H61M @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

Corsair CX430 V2 @ $45 ($35 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Sapphire Radeon HD5670 @ $70 ($60 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102871

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $43
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

Thermaltake V3 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238


If you want a quad core than you can get a core i5 2400 instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 but the promo makes the core i3 2100 a good deal for a casual budget gaming configuration.

If you plan on purchasing a new monitor anytime soon, I'd suggest a Radeon HD6850 instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 The 5670 will be capable of playing games on reasonably high settings at your current resolutions but will only be capable of playing games on low settings at 1080p.

Your amazing man.
Will that powersupply be able to handle the HD6850?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 21 2011 02:30 GMT
#9977
Yes, the 6850 uses less than 100w under load and both the core i3 2100 and core i5 2400 uses less than 50w under load.
marroccooo
Profile Joined August 2011
6 Posts
August 21 2011 02:33 GMT
#9978
Awesome, are there any other cards some where inbetween those to prices that will be able to run HD that work with this build?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 02:42:16
August 21 2011 02:42 GMT
#9979
On August 21 2011 11:33 marroccooo wrote:
Awesome, are there any other cards some where inbetween those to prices that will be able to run HD that work with this build?


GTS 450 if there's one available for $80-100 is fairly well between the two. Or 5770/6770 is roughly equivalent (slightly better), if that's cheaper.
marroccooo
Profile Joined August 2011
6 Posts
August 21 2011 03:02 GMT
#9980
You guys are great!
Am I gonna have any problems with cooling with that build?
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