Computer Build Resource Thread - Page 1405

On March 06 2013 22:43 Ropid wrote:
@llIH: You can't find it as it's last generation and probably not produced anymore.

There's this rough comparison table for performance: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

On March 07 2013 01:22 Shai wrote:
Hey TL. It's been about 6 years since I last bought a "new computer." I'm using an AMD Phenom X3 8450 processor that came from a box-store Compaq Presario.

These are the original stats of that computer: http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/compaq-presario-sr5552f-phenom/4505-3118_7-33773301.html

I've since upgraded the graphics card to an NVidea GeForce GT 430 and to 4GB of RAM (2x2GB).

-My processor and/or motherboard are dying, which is one reason I want to build a new rig.
-I want to stream, and my processor isn't up to the task.
-I want to emulate PS2 on my computer (I have the real games I want to use, I just want to emulate them on my PC) and my processor is too old.

So I want help from the good folks at TL to help me build a new PC.

-I don't want to spend more than ~800 Canadian Dollars before taxes and shipping (we have sales tax added on).
-If possible, I'd like to get all of my parts from one supplier (preferably NewEgg.ca, the Canadian sister site of NewEgg, since shipping would be better)
-I don't need a new graphics card ~yet~. So we don't need to go looking for one.
-I DO need a 64bit version of Windows, since I'm currently running Windows 7 32 bit.
-I don't need an asthetically pleasing case, just a functional one.
-I don't want to overclock. I'm not that confident in doing it and I want my processor to last a long time.

My resolution is 1680-1050. I have no problem upgrading individual parts after the build, so what's most important to me is a good processor and a good motherboard (and obviously decent cooling and power supply). I'm not enough of an enthusiast that I need both an SSD and SATA hard drive, I'll do fine with any old hard drive, and I don't need more than 500GB unless something is cheap.

If anyone wants to help and needs more information, feel free to ask. I'm ignorant but not stupid, I can probably answer any questions with a bit of research.

EDIT: I'm actually fine with keeping my 500GB barracuda hard drive and reformatting to 64bit.

On March 06 2013 23:44 MrCon wrote:
So thanks to everyone here, I finally bought, received and built my new computer :

- 2500K (got it for 134€, the 3570K is 50€ more so I took the 2500K)
- MSI Z77A-G43
- 4GO DDR Cucial Ballistic Elite CL8
- Sapphire Radeon 7850 1GO
- Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 SATA 6Gb/s 1 To
- Cheap but still good case ( http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00117527.html )
- Seasonic 400W 80 Plus Bronze

for 508€ (+20€ shipping)

Works like a charm, thanks everyone who answered me in the past few weeks !

On March 07 2013 03:22 llIH wrote:


I am trying to get my pc at that price. But I can't. Did you get a really good deal on those parts?

On March 07 2013 03:18 Elairec wrote:
Do you guys think a G2020 paired with a GTX 550ti would have much trouble running SC2 at medium settings? Currently looking to upgrade my system and give the wife my old video card, meanwhile building her a relatively cheap system that can still play SC2 at decent graphics. Resolution is 1600x900. Thanks for any input.

On March 07 2013 03:26 MrCon wrote:

No, only the 2500K was a good deal (I bought it separately).
Everything else was at ldlc.com, I had a 6% discount code too.

Here's my invoice :

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On March 07 2013 03:51 MrCon wrote:
I haven't, but Dota 2 stays at a constant 60fps with max settings at 1600*1200 in a 5vs5, I'm pretty sure it is more than enough for sc2 at 1920*1080.

On March 07 2013 04:28 Alryk wrote:


Assuming it's the i3/7850 build: yeah a 7850 can max SC2 graphically easily. But SC2 is more cpu demanding than Dota2 (even though it's 1v1 vs "5v5" because each player controls way more units than there are heroes/minions at any time if I'm not mistaken. Lategame that is). So it will lag lategame in SC2 on max settings (source: I have one.)

With low settings on CPU lategame btw, you'd probably be looking at 20-25 fps? in the worst case scenario.

Sous Starcraft II, nous utilisons un replay spécialement enregistré par des utilisateurs du forum que nous remercions. Ce replay contient une attaque très (très) importante et nous mesurons le framerate durant cette dernière en 1920*1080 avec les détails poussés au maximum.

On March 07 2013 05:31 MrCon wrote:
I'm not sure so I'd wait more qualified people to answer.
I know the Ivy CPUs draw less power than the Sandy one, so the 3570K should use less power than the 2500K.
It's the same for GPUs, I think the 77xx generation draw less power than the previous one but I don't know how much the previous one was using =)
If you overclock 400W could not be enough. It also depend on how much hard drives and other stuff you have.
You can read the technical details to know exactly how much power each part needs.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/863-9/consommation-efficacite-energetique.html this page tests most CPU's power consumption.

A 3570K uses 130W in full charge, a radeon 7770 use 75W google just told me. A hard drive uses 10W maximum, more about 5-7W. So a good 400W is enough unless you overclock big or you have 6 hard drives, 2 blue ray writers, 10 USB peripherals and 10 fans.