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I think your newegg wish list just wasn't made public--by default, they're private and nobody else can view them. All that looks good to me.
I'm not a fan of going multi-GPU, but you were already given a 890GX mobo that supports Crossfire (and not SLI, so you can't do multiple Nvidia GPUs) and a good PSU that would support two mid-high end GPUs. If you got an HD 6850 or whatever now, you could upgrade down the line by adding a second one.
However, the HD 6850s seem pretty overpriced now, and the MSI Hawk GTX 460 1GB for $180 is a good value. Or maybe you could try finding a HD 5770 now for something like $120. That'd be enough for SC2 at 1680x1050, and you'd get the possible Crossfire option later with that.
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Don't 6850s and 460s trade blows? There are a couple 6850s around 180. Having the option to crossfire later is nice.
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Yeah probably. This GTX 460 is significantly stock-overclocked though (probably with room for more) and is a little nicer than the cheapest HD 6850 models, but of course you could overclock a HD 6850 too.
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So is something like this (185$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102912&cm_re=HD_6850-_-14-102-912-_-Product
Roughly equivalent to the 460 and would allow me to add a second later?
for me to play newer games would it be best to go 2x5770, 2x6850, or just one 460? How much is really necessary to spend on it. And would dual GPU help with new and upcoming games, or would I have to upgrade the rest of my system too to be able to play them?
And I thought I made the list public, when I go to "my wish lists" it appears as public, others I have don't.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-6850-renewing-competition-in-the-midrange-market/10
A single 6850 seems to beat the 460 at SC2, averaging 68fps at 1680x1050. 1 Will be fine. The option you have available to you on being able to add a second one in the future, when the 6850 will be cheaper with the introduction of better cards, is just a bonus.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125348 <-dual fan cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516 <-lifetime warranty, 25mhz factory overclock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 <-dual fan cooler, 45mhz factory overclock
That Sapphire you showed is fine if you don't mind waiting a couple months for that $15 back. Usually I would just pay the cheaper upfront cost than have to worry about MIRs.
I would go with either of the Gigabytes for their cooling potential, or XFX for the warranty. Overclocking is really easy for video cards, but usually not necessary at this point in time, as these cards can run pretty much everything.
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Got all my parts sans PSU. Everything's connected and installed, just waiting on the PSU from Tennessee >_>
No complaints on the Rosewill case. Very solid budget case at $40. Will suggest to others, especially when you can get awesome combo deals on them sometimes.
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Looking for the best GPU for the price
Around the 150$ (but if there's one significantly better for like 10/15 more i'll go with that)
550w PSU is what i got but i don't see that being a problem for a single gpu
I'll be shopping on newegg.com thank you 
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Oh damn, i thought i found a good deal with a 460 768mb that was 170 with 30 MIR.
Thanks alot i'm going to hop on that before it expires.
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On December 24 2010 14:42 Razt wrote:Oh damn, i thought i found a good deal with a 460 768mb that was 170 with 30 MIR. Thanks alot i'm going to hop on that before it expires.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127518
180 with 20 MIR, like the 320mb verson of the 8800GTS I just hate to see you buy the 320mb over the 640mb when it's in reach.
Ie the 1gig 460 is very different from the 768 esp in the returns when you oc.
Buying before chistmas helps lol
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Hi friends, does anyone know when the new sandy bridge cpus will actually be available to the end consumer? I have my eyes on probably a 2500k, i know they're being premiered on the 6th or 9th of jan, but when will they be available?
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On December 25 2010 13:36 Adebisi wrote:
Hi friends, does anyone know when the new sandy bridge cpus will actually be available to the end consumer? I have my eyes on probably a 2500k, i know they're being premiered on the 6th or 9th of jan, but when will they be available?
January 5th is the announcement.
Retail availability is expected on the same day and the latest its expected on is January 9th.
You can already find some on sale already btw...
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I recently got a new monitor with 22'' and i want to play starcraft perfectly with all the graphics options!
my budget would be 500/600€
resolution 1280x1024
gaming and some light work
upgrade cycle 2/3 years
build in january
No overclock
need a OS but will buy later
shop in european market
Please PM me in case i forget about this theread,
Thank you very much.
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Bump. I'd asked a while back about building a new PC, but the response I got was along the lines of "wait for the next generation of CPUs and do it then." So, I'm back. 
To answer the questions from the OP:
What is your budget?
Let me put it this way: Money isn't an issue here. I absolutely do not want to buy the best of the best (and spend a premium simply because there's nothing better). I want to spend a reasonable amount of money and end up with a really good PC that will do what I want it to do and then some. I'm looking for a balance of value and performance.
What is your resolution?
I believe my monitor is at 1900x1200.
What are you using it for?
The usual stuff (e.g. internet, email, etc.) but mostly gaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I'd prefer I don't need (or want to) upgrade for about five years or so.
When do you plan on building it?
Relatively soon after the next generation of CPUs come out.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Not really. I never had any reason to, nor am I savvy enough with hardware to know how to do it.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I'm not sure. In the end, I want to have really good performance, so if adding a second GPU will get me years of great performance without having to upgrade anything, absolutely.
Where are you buying your parts from?
NewEgg.
TL;DR: I want to build a good PC that isn't outrageously expensive but yet will run really well (e.g. SC2 on all maximum settings). Money isn't a huge deal, so if spending a little more will get a ton more performance, I'm for it. I generally prefer Nvidia/Intel products so I'd prefer not to go with AMD/ATI.
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Well, the answer is still..."wait for the next generation of CPUs and do it then." 
A hypothetical build would be something like:
Core i5-2500 -- the 2 MB more L3 cache and hyperthreading of the i7-2600 isn't worth the extra $100 for a gaming computer
LGA1155 motherboard -- whichever looks reliable/suitable; Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, MSI, etc. are usually good brands
GTX 570 -- multiple GPU is probably not worth the effort for you, and probably won't last you significantly longer without needing to upgrade
2x2 GB DDR3 RAM -- actually, if you don't want to upgrade later you might as well just get 2 sticks of 4 GB RAM for 8 GB total and forget about it, though that's probably overkill for your uses
HDD -- size and capacity as you need; performance doesn't matter that much if you're getting a...
SSD -- might as well get one if money isn't that tight, as it makes "the usual stuff" more snappy; the SandForce-based OCZ Vertex 2, Corsair Force, G.Skill Phoenix Pro, etc. are practically identical and overall good choices
optical drive -- whatever you need
PSU -- a good 500W should last a long time and would give you plenty of headroom if you stick to a single GPU
Case -- whatever looks fine to you and has reasonable airflow
OS -- 64-bit Windows 7 of course
It should be somewhere around $1200, depending on exactly what you get. Spending more won't give you much more performance on a 1920x1200 monitor.
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xD Thanks. I'm still learning more about hardware so having a basic idea of what to start off with is always a huge help. And that's a lot cheaper than I thought it would be.
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Budget: 400-500 for the computer only
Resolution: is currently crappy but I have a separate budget of 200 for a monitor that I will be getting in 2 months, so I guess whatever that will get me.
Use: Using it for gaming and streaming only. I have a separate laptop for school and work.
Upgrade Cycle: I don't really have one, but I am more than willing to upgrade a few parts every year or two, prefer not to upgrade the entire thing at once. More or less wanting to upgrade as the next big game comes out.
Plan on building it: Mid-late january. In half a month pretty much.
Overclock: Sure, if it increases the power by enough to justify it for the cost, I'm up for it.
Operating System: Already have it.
SLI/Crossfire: Don't really care, probably way out of my budget.
Buying parts from: Newegg
LG DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH24NS50 - 19.99
Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 39.99
Recertified: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS-FR 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - 34.99
ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ... - 149.99 (20 MIR)
COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3-US 500W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply - 39.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - 49.99
AMD Phenom II X3 715 Black Edition Heka 2.8GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor HDZ715WCJ3DGI - OEM
ASUS M4A785-M AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Combo - 130.99
This totals to 464.93 and 444.93 after MIR which is perfectly in my budget of 400-500. Is everything ok? I did this myself with little help. Are there any suggestions? Is the new stuff coming out in January more cost efficient then what I chose?
What settings could a build like this run SC2 at? And how about while streaming?
Thanks guys!
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Specs-wise that should run at ultra except with fps drops when CPU-constrained, like in very large battles (especially multiplayer). Streaming would probably make the fps worse, but by how much depends on your encoding, bitrate, etc.
First off, you have DDR3 RAM there with a motherboard that takes DDR2 RAM. Also, the OEM CPUs don't come with heatsinks whereas the normal retail boxed ones do, so you'd need to buy a heatsink if you got that CPU.
The Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500W is cheap, but it's correspondingly not very good at all. e.g. it goes out of ATX ripple spec if loaded heavily and is fairly inefficient. Granted, that hardware shouldn't push above 300W at max load (via synthetic benchmarking), but you might as well just get a better ~400W PSU. Some options: Antec Earthwatts Green 380D (no power cord incl.), Antec Neo Eco 400C (no power cord incl.), Rosewill Green 430W. Eco-marketing aside, the performance and reliability should be higher.
If you're interested in streaming while playing and less interested in ultra shaders and high-end graphical settings, maybe you should spend more on the CPU and less on the GPU. A quad core would be better for streaming. Other than that, this looks good. New stuff coming in January would be significantly faster but also significantly more expensive--maybe $280 for CPU+cheaper mobo.
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Alright thanks, I will be changing the power supply to the Rosewill Green 430W as well as looking for a new mobo/cpu. I don't think I can afford another 150 on the mobo/cpu. Do you have any suggestions?
Could such a setup stream at low or medium quality? Or is a quadcore needed to stream at all?
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This is actually the new build I created. Let me know!
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LG DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH24NS50 - OEM - 18.99
Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 39.99
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS-FR 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive 34.99
ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ... - 149.99 (20 MIR)
Rosewill Green Series RG430-S12 430W Continuous @40°C, 80 PLUS Certified, Single 12V Rail, Active PFC "Compatible with Core ... - 44.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ 49.99
AMD Athlon II X4 635 Propus 2.9GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX635WFGIBOX
ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - 183 (Combo) (15 MIR)
Totals to 521.94, 486.94 with MIR.
Another edit:
Also, I've noticed some smaller motherboards offer hybrid crossfire and will run a Radeon graphics card along the onboard video. Is this worth it? Downgroading to a slightly cheaper graphics card and running one of these motherboards?
I'm also debating on downgrading to the Radeon 5770.
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So what exactly determines how well a game can be run? It sounds like it's more a mix of CPU, GPU, and memory, yes?
With what I want to do, I don't want to be limited.
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What is your budget?
1000 USD please note I already have a power supply and mouse but no keyboard/monitor. Also I want it upgradeable for the future.
What is your resolution?
I'Il need a new monitor
What are you using it for?
Gaming and streaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
Every 2 to 3 years.
When do you plan on building it?
During spring of 2011
Do you plan on overclocking?
Maybe
Do you need an Operating System?
No I have a copy of Windows 7 already
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not sure, if it can improve my performance and still keep me in my budget why not!
Where are you buying your parts from?
Anywhere that ships to the US
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