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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Cervezas
Profile Joined March 2011
8 Posts
June 17 2012 19:03 GMT
#22721
Yeah I though so lol.. ok here goes..

Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
$299.99
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" SATA 6.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$179.99
$169.99 Sale Price
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
$99.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
$94.99
ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
$18.99
$16.99 Sale Price
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming Computer Case
$59.99
$49.99 Sale Price
OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$199.99
$94.99 Sale Price
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW 02G-P4-2678-KR Video Card
$419.99
MSI Z77A-G45 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$149.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm sleeve CPU Cooler
$34.99
$29.99 Sale Price
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M 750W High Performance Power Supply
$129.99
$119.99 Sale Price

Grand Total: $1,546.89

Sorry no links~.~ using Newegg.com this Total gives me wiggle for for sales and other junk I might need.
saeren
Profile Joined June 2012
10 Posts
June 17 2012 19:10 GMT
#22722
Hi all, I've been recently I've been thinking about trying to improve my computer for streaming by possibly getting a video capture card. I've been looking on newegg and there's some for ~$100 that seem pretty good, although my main worry is that all of them have negative comments about crashes/freezes/not working with xsplit. Are these video capture cards even worthwhile or should I just save up and upgrade my processor/mobo or whatever? My issue that I CAN stream currently at 720p with dxtory, but depending on the game I get pretty low frame rates. I can stream League of Legends/Dota 2 on highest settings with a 30 fps with a few spikes, SC2 on low/medium with textures on high at 30 fps as well (although big battles can be spiky), but for example GW2 I could not stream at all this past beta weekend (first I thought it was drivers, tried to update, still got <20 fps and crashed twice). Now maybe this is because the game isn't optimized but either way I'd like to stream it in the future at a comfortable 30 fps.

My current specs:
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series

So I guess my questions are:
1) Are video capture cards worth it in the short run, or should I just save and upgrade to an i7?
2) How big of a change would I realistically have upgrading with a video capture card with my current computer? Would I be able to stream at 720p 60 fps? Could I go up to 1080p with 30/60 fps?

Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 17 2012 20:47 GMT
#22723
So, because of Diablo 3, I am now rich with disposable money beyond imagining. So it's time I did something with my PC, which is the following.

8 gigs 1600 RAM
i5-2500k
Radeon 5830
HDD 7200

I figure its time for a GPU upgrade but anyone is encouraged to disagree as long as they have sound reasoning.

Budget is like $500 or less. Crossfiring not really an option (board is x16x4). I was going to get a 7870 because while my budget is higher, I really like getting the best bang for my buck.

But then a friend alerted me to the fact that they are making a revision to the 7970 Tahiti XT.
http://www.techpowerup.com/167711/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-Edition-quot-Tahiti-XT2-quot-Detailed.html

It was at that point that I decided I could no longer in good faith make a decision without advice from others that are knowledgable.

As I said I have no problem spending that kind of money on one graphics card, as long as I am still spending along the price/performance trendline.

Oh and nVidia does not apply to me. Forum regulars already know this and why.
twitch.tv/medrea
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
June 17 2012 22:33 GMT
#22724
Asked this in simple questions thread for tech support, but realized this was probably better to ask here.


What is a PSU that is high quality, modular, and can support two EAH 6850s, a 1090t x6 black thuban, and corsair h60?
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 23:43:00
June 17 2012 23:18 GMT
#22725
On June 18 2012 07:33 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
Asked this in simple questions thread for tech support, but realized this was probably better to ask here.


What is a PSU that is high quality, modular, and can support two EAH 6850s, a 1090t x6 black thuban, and corsair h60?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

Also, $40 off w/ promo code EMCNDJE26, ends 6/17
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
June 17 2012 23:47 GMT
#22726
quite an expensive psu for someone running a mid-end system, worth it though.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 17 2012 23:50 GMT
#22727
On June 18 2012 08:47 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
quite an expensive psu for someone running a mid-end system, worth it though.


He wants a high quality, modular PSU for CFX, high TDP CPU, and closed loop liquid. There's not going to be a cheap option anyone sane would entrust their rig to.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 18 2012 00:03 GMT
#22728
How cheap?

Some very sane options for $70 or less with MIR, would be some Seasonic M12II (old M12II at 620W and below) rebrands at around 600W:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=67325&promoid=1027
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703036
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 18 2012 00:21 GMT
#22729
Now that i think about it though. Tahiti XT2 probably isnt going to cost more. Im leaning toward waiting for that.
twitch.tv/medrea
Kalista
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada2 Posts
June 18 2012 00:27 GMT
#22730
HDD- Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Ram- CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model
SSD- Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
CPU- Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637I53550
GPU-MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Case-Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
MB- ECS H77H2-M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
PSU- SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Is this a good computer build? 1920x1080 res and for gaming streaming.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 01:01:31
June 18 2012 00:58 GMT
#22731
On June 18 2012 08:47 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
quite an expensive psu for someone running a mid-end system, worth it though.


Quality and modular are pretty relative so I figure I'd go on the higher end. Crossfire HD 6850 and 1060T doesn't exactly spell efficient either. Plus, if he's using an H60, I figure he wouldn't care about spending more for marginal gains.

On June 18 2012 09:27 Kalista wrote:
HDD- Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Ram- CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model
SSD- Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive
CPU- Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637I53550
GPU-MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Case-Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
MB- ECS H77H2-M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
PSU- SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Is this a good computer build? 1920x1080 res and for gaming streaming.


You might as well get an i5 3570k if you want to stream. It's only $10 more than an i5 3550. And that H77 is within the price range of Z77's.

Other than that, I would just get cheaper ram and a better case. The Blackbone is pretty cramped. Also, you should get this HDD. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Not much else to say.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 18 2012 01:35 GMT
#22732
On June 18 2012 05:47 Medrea wrote:
So, because of Diablo 3, I am now rich with disposable money beyond imagining. So it's time I did something with my PC, which is the following.

8 gigs 1600 RAM
i5-2500k
Radeon 5830
HDD 7200

I figure its time for a GPU upgrade but anyone is encouraged to disagree as long as they have sound reasoning.

Budget is like $500 or less. Crossfiring not really an option (board is x16x4). I was going to get a 7870 because while my budget is higher, I really like getting the best bang for my buck.

But then a friend alerted me to the fact that they are making a revision to the 7970 Tahiti XT.
http://www.techpowerup.com/167711/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-Edition-quot-Tahiti-XT2-quot-Detailed.html

It was at that point that I decided I could no longer in good faith make a decision without advice from others that are knowledgable.

As I said I have no problem spending that kind of money on one graphics card, as long as I am still spending along the price/performance trendline.

Oh and nVidia does not apply to me. Forum regulars already know this and why.


Do you really need all that for D3?

I was thinking about getting D3, but man I'd need a GPU overhaul with my HD 5770 if you need a 7870 or 7970 for it...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 01:41:04
June 18 2012 01:39 GMT
#22733
On June 18 2012 10:35 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 05:47 Medrea wrote:
So, because of Diablo 3, I am now rich with disposable money beyond imagining. So it's time I did something with my PC, which is the following.

8 gigs 1600 RAM
i5-2500k
Radeon 5830
HDD 7200

I figure its time for a GPU upgrade but anyone is encouraged to disagree as long as they have sound reasoning.

Budget is like $500 or less. Crossfiring not really an option (board is x16x4). I was going to get a 7870 because while my budget is higher, I really like getting the best bang for my buck.

But then a friend alerted me to the fact that they are making a revision to the 7970 Tahiti XT.
http://www.techpowerup.com/167711/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-Edition-quot-Tahiti-XT2-quot-Detailed.html

It was at that point that I decided I could no longer in good faith make a decision without advice from others that are knowledgable.

As I said I have no problem spending that kind of money on one graphics card, as long as I am still spending along the price/performance trendline.

Oh and nVidia does not apply to me. Forum regulars already know this and why.


Do you really need all that for D3?

I was thinking about getting D3, but man I'd need a GPU overhaul with my HD 5770 if you need a 7870 or 7970 for it...


He doesn't need it for D3, he just has extra cash courtesy of either the RMAH or methods we probably shouldn't discuss, and wants to dump it into hardware. A 5770 would run it decently, it's about as GPU demanding as you'd expect out of a Blizzard product.

Say, Medrea, do your HDD's ever get arrested if they die on you? + Show Spoiler +
After all, Corrupting a Miner is a serious offense in the US.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 02:14:31
June 18 2012 02:14 GMT
#22734
I only use one hard drive for every miner. (Total, all of them, one hard drive links them all).

GPU's are free with time but, less time is always nice!
twitch.tv/medrea
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 18 2012 02:14 GMT
#22735
WHAT THE

You made $500 of RMAH?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 18 2012 02:19 GMT
#22736
On June 18 2012 11:14 Medrea wrote:
I only use one hard drive for every miner. (Total, all of them, one hard drive links them all).

GPU's are free with time but, less time is always nice!


One drive to bring them all, and in the darkness, bind them.

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19991018

The start of a truly magical series of UF.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 02:45:30
June 18 2012 02:26 GMT
#22737
On June 18 2012 11:14 jacosajh wrote:
WHAT THE

You made $500 of RMAH?


What? Fuck no.

Ive made about $1500.

I guess that really answers my question. There really isnt a reason not to get the new 7970.

I was just wondering if the drivers were shit and I needed to steer away from 7970 and stick with 7870 which is really good price/perf.

EDIT: I figured this thread would be inundated with people updating their computers off of D3 money. Oh well.

7970 doesnt shit bricks or anything right?

EDIT2: Screenshot of a vertical slice of my RMAH
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Thats today and yesterday.
twitch.tv/medrea
findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
June 18 2012 03:53 GMT
#22738
I have a question regarding the new video cards:

the price of the geforce 600 series is not going to affect anything as they are way atop my budget, unless I go for one of the mid-end cards.

SO i'm deciding how much i should spend on my video cards... I want to play d3/sc2/stream dota2 on max settings, 1920x1080 full hd.

If i'm NOT OVERCLOCKING...

should i get a 2500 or a 3570k? the price is not that different.
is there any point in getting a z77 mobo?
how much should i pay for my graphics cards? and more importantly, amd or nvidia?

i'm looking at the 560, 7770, 7850, 560Ti, 7850. I know the price varies a lot; i just listed the new cards i'm capable of paying for. I've heard good stuff about the 7000 series, can anyone elaborate?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
June 18 2012 03:53 GMT
#22739
I wonder if the market will grow or shrink. My guess is shrink. But best of luck to you. And also, I don't know much about the new 7970 coming out, but after the 680 came out, the regular 'ole 7970 became not as bad in terms of price/performance once they did the price drop. At least in the U.S. Maybe the older 7970s will be cheaper than the new ones?
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 04:14:53
June 18 2012 03:57 GMT
#22740
On June 18 2012 12:53 findingthelimit wrote:
I have a question regarding the new video cards:

the price of the geforce 600 series is not going to affect anything as they are way atop my budget, unless I go for one of the mid-end cards.

SO i'm deciding how much i should spend on my video cards... I want to play d3/sc2/stream dota2 on max settings, 1920x1080 full hd.

If i'm NOT OVERCLOCKING...

should i get a 2500 or a 3570k? the price is not that different.
is there any point in getting a z77 mobo?
how much should i pay for my graphics cards? and more importantly, amd or nvidia?

i'm looking at the 560, 7770, 7850, 560Ti, 7850. I know the price varies a lot; i just listed the new cards i'm capable of paying for. I've heard good stuff about the 7000 series, can anyone elaborate?


If you're not overclocking, you should get a 3570k. Edit: i5-3450 or 3550, no K necessary (though it doesn't hurt)
z77: not if you're not overclocking. You'll want ye olde cheap B75 or H77 monitor, or possibly an H67. Not sure if all of those have been updated with the ivy bridge-compatible bioses yet, but they probably have. If so, there's a pretty good deal on an MSI h67 on newegg right now.

For graphics card... not that much for the games you mentioned. None of those games take much GPU power, so you'd really only be paying more for non-d3, sc2, dota2 games, since those will all run on max on most if not all $120 plus GPUs, and also some less than that. If money's not a big issue, I'd probably get a 6870 in your position, since you can usually get one on special for about $150, not too much, and they still provide a little oomph for non-easy-to-run games. But if you really don't care much about other games, just get a cheap 6770 or 560se (560 shitty edition, but it's better than the 550ti) or something.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
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