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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
thisisnotralph
Profile Joined April 2012
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 23:06:14
April 23 2012 23:05 GMT
#21001
On April 24 2012 07:46 skyR wrote:
LGA1155 is dead after this year. The only thing futureproof about Z77 is native USB3 which is literally useless for most people.

well if the socket is the main concern in futureproofing and it's dead by next year, then does that mean there's really no way to futureproof in general?
shAmSC
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada14 Posts
April 23 2012 23:06 GMT
#21002
Hey guys, so I'm just finishing university this year and as a grad present the parents are offering a new CPU to me. I play games constantly but am stuck using a laptop . I play SCII, DOTA2, FPS games, and plan on running D3. I am looking for a machine that can handle video games on their highest setting as well as streaming content online. I do not update my machines until about 3-4 years so I am looking for a good build that will last. I know nothing of builds so anything will be greatly appreciated. I live in Ottawa, Ontario and my budget is $1,250.
Fortune favors the brave
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 23 2012 23:15 GMT
#21003
On April 24 2012 08:05 thisisnotralph wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On April 24 2012 07:46 skyR wrote:
LGA1155 is dead after this year. The only thing futureproof about Z77 is native USB3 which is literally useless for most people.

well if the socket is the main concern in futureproofing and it's dead by next year, then does that mean there's really no way to futureproof in general?


Well that's what people are talking about when they say futureproof right? PCI-E 2.0 isn't going to get saturated anytime soon with single card configurations so what else is there?

On April 24 2012 08:06 shAmSC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys, so I'm just finishing university this year and as a grad present the parents are offering a new CPU to me. I play games constantly but am stuck using a laptop . I play SCII, DOTA2, FPS games, and plan on running D3. I am looking for a machine that can handle video games on their highest setting as well as streaming content online. I do not update my machines until about 3-4 years so I am looking for a good build that will last. I know nothing of builds so anything will be greatly appreciated. I live in Ottawa, Ontario and my budget is $1,250.


You mean an entire computer right? The CPU is only one part of the computer.
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
April 23 2012 23:28 GMT
#21004
Hi there, first time poster in this section of the forum really, so I am a complete noob when it comes to building a computer. I figured that for the end of the school year, I will celebrate by building myself a much-needed new computer for the very first time.

What is your budget?

I would like to spend somewhere between $1000-$1500 (or less obviously) on it. This is pretty flexible, and if need be I can go up to max $2000.

What is your resolution?

Currently using a 1920x1080 resolution.

What are you using it for?

I will be using it for Starcraft 2 and streaming, almost exclusively. I only want to be able to play sc2 on low-medium settings, but with my current computer I have trouble with fps drops in large battles even on all the lowest settings. I hope to build a new one where this won't be an issue.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I don't want/plan to upgrade it often at all. Maybe every few years if needed? I'm not really too sure how to answer this question, but let's assume the only thing I'll be using it for is, as previously mentioned, sc2 and streaming.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next couple of weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope!

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes I will need one.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I don't think I will need one for my purposes, so I will say no. But if someone corrects me and I do need a second GPU for my purposes, then yes!

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in Canada, so probably Newegg unless there's somewhere cheaper.

Thanks so much for the help! like i said, i'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff so any constructive help is needed and i would love to answer any questions or anything else you need to know.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 23 2012 23:34 GMT
#21005
On April 24 2012 07:57 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Ok so I cant wait any longer and the pros of ivy bridge seem to be less then I thought. I am just going to buy a 2500k instead.

Here is my final build if anyone has any last minute revsions I can make please feel free to say

Intel Core i5-2500K 189 euros
HIS HD 6870 143 euros
ASRock P67 Pro3 (B3) 78 euros
4GB Corsair 18 euros
LG GH22NS50/70/90 bare schwarz 18 euros
BitFenix Shinobi 53 euros
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W 41 euros
WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s 66 euros

I was planning to buy a 212 heatsink but they are no longer stocked. If anyone could suggeest another I would be greatfull

So the total not including win7 and the heatsink is around 610 euros+ postage

That build looks really nice overall. Just a couple of things I could suggest:

Consider the Golden Green 400 power supply as even though it's around 16 euros more, it's got 2 years longer warranty and you can make a little bit of it back with lower electricity bills, it's also more quiet and should last for longer:
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50852&agid=1626

For the heatsink I'd go with the Thermalright True Spirit 120:
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52672&agid=669
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 23 2012 23:54 GMT
#21006
On April 24 2012 08:28 Malstriks wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi there, first time poster in this section of the forum really, so I am a complete noob when it comes to building a computer. I figured that for the end of the school year, I will celebrate by building myself a much-needed new computer for the very first time.

What is your budget?

I would like to spend somewhere between $1000-$1500 (or less obviously) on it. This is pretty flexible, and if need be I can go up to max $2000.

What is your resolution?

Currently using a 1920x1080 resolution.

What are you using it for?

I will be using it for Starcraft 2 and streaming, almost exclusively. I only want to be able to play sc2 on low-medium settings, but with my current computer I have trouble with fps drops in large battles even on all the lowest settings. I hope to build a new one where this won't be an issue.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I don't want/plan to upgrade it often at all. Maybe every few years if needed? I'm not really too sure how to answer this question, but let's assume the only thing I'll be using it for is, as previously mentioned, sc2 and streaming.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next couple of weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope!

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes I will need one.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I don't think I will need one for my purposes, so I will say no. But if someone corrects me and I do need a second GPU for my purposes, then yes!

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in Canada, so probably Newegg unless there's somewhere cheaper.

Thanks so much for the help! like i said, i'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff so any constructive help is needed and i would love to answer any questions or anything else you need to know.


Overclocking will be very beneficial for a configuration that's sole purpose is for Starcraft II and streaming.

Newegg sucks so you don't want to buy from them... it amazes me why Newegg is so popular in Canada when there wasn't even a Newegg Canada until like 2009 and they're not even good.

You won't be spending anywhere 2k though unless you spend needlessly. You'll want to ask again when you have a more definite build date since Canadian retailers allow for pricematching and there are weekly sales.
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 23:59:11
April 23 2012 23:58 GMT
#21007
On April 24 2012 08:54 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 08:28 Malstriks wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi there, first time poster in this section of the forum really, so I am a complete noob when it comes to building a computer. I figured that for the end of the school year, I will celebrate by building myself a much-needed new computer for the very first time.

What is your budget?

I would like to spend somewhere between $1000-$1500 (or less obviously) on it. This is pretty flexible, and if need be I can go up to max $2000.

What is your resolution?

Currently using a 1920x1080 resolution.

What are you using it for?

I will be using it for Starcraft 2 and streaming, almost exclusively. I only want to be able to play sc2 on low-medium settings, but with my current computer I have trouble with fps drops in large battles even on all the lowest settings. I hope to build a new one where this won't be an issue.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I don't want/plan to upgrade it often at all. Maybe every few years if needed? I'm not really too sure how to answer this question, but let's assume the only thing I'll be using it for is, as previously mentioned, sc2 and streaming.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next couple of weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope!

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes I will need one.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I don't think I will need one for my purposes, so I will say no. But if someone corrects me and I do need a second GPU for my purposes, then yes!

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in Canada, so probably Newegg unless there's somewhere cheaper.

Thanks so much for the help! like i said, i'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff so any constructive help is needed and i would love to answer any questions or anything else you need to know.


Overclocking will be very beneficial for a configuration that's sole purpose is for Starcraft II and streaming.

Newegg sucks so you don't want to buy from them... it amazes me why Newegg is so popular in Canada when there wasn't even a Newegg Canada until like 2009 and they're not even good.

You won't be spending anywhere 2k though unless you spend needlessly. You'll want to ask again when you have a more definite build date since Canadian retailers allow for pricematching and there are weekly sales.


Okay thank you, so where would you recommend I buy from? and I will be buying the parts at the end of april or very beginning of may.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 00:00 GMT
#21008
http://ncix.com/ is the premiere computer hardware retailer in Canada.
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
April 24 2012 00:11 GMT
#21009
On April 24 2012 09:00 skyR wrote:
http://ncix.com/ is the premiere computer hardware retailer in Canada.


Perfect, thanks. Anything else that needs to be known?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
April 24 2012 00:14 GMT
#21010
skyr, I think you told me not to get the XFX 7850, not sure why (I thought it was the best since it's the 7870 pcb) but I'm about to order. If you got to choose between every 7850 with no regard to price, which one would be the best? I'll throw away the cooler and heatsink so only the board itself matters.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 00:30 GMT
#21011
If price was not a concern, why wouldn't you just get a 7870 or 7950?

I think XFX is stupid for using the 7870 PCB and I think ASUS is stupid for not altering their Direct Cu II design for the 7850.

It still remains to be seen whether XFX's decision actually does help you overclock further or it's just a way to cut manufacturing costs.
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
April 24 2012 10:30 GMT
#21012
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 24 2012 08:34 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 07:57 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Ok so I cant wait any longer and the pros of ivy bridge seem to be less then I thought. I am just going to buy a 2500k instead.

Here is my final build if anyone has any last minute revsions I can make please feel free to say

Intel Core i5-2500K 189 euros
HIS HD 6870 143 euros
ASRock P67 Pro3 (B3) 78 euros
4GB Corsair 18 euros
LG GH22NS50/70/90 bare schwarz 18 euros
BitFenix Shinobi 53 euros
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W 41 euros
WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 6Gb/s 66 euros

I was planning to buy a 212 heatsink but they are no longer stocked. If anyone could suggeest another I would be greatfull

So the total not including win7 and the heatsink is around 610 euros+ postage

That build looks really nice overall. Just a couple of things I could suggest:

Consider the Golden Green 400 power supply as even though it's around 16 euros more, it's got 2 years longer warranty and you can make a little bit of it back with lower electricity bills, it's also more quiet and should last for longer:
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50852&agid=1626

For the heatsink I'd go with the Thermalright True Spirit 120:
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=52672&agid=669



Thanks. Will the 400w unit be enough for this build though?
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
April 24 2012 10:41 GMT
#21013
On April 24 2012 09:30 skyR wrote:
If price was not a concern, why wouldn't you just get a 7870 or 7950?

I think XFX is stupid for using the 7870 PCB and I think ASUS is stupid for not altering their Direct Cu II design for the 7850.

It still remains to be seen whether XFX's decision actually does help you overclock further or it's just a way to cut manufacturing costs.


Don't think the 7950 works too well passive, and the 7870 will probably have to be underclocked. Either way, I found out that the capacitor height and power bead height conflicts with most aftermarket heatsinks so I'll just have to wait patiently until Nvidia played around enough with their shitty dual card and decides to make a normal midrange card...
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Cerotix
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada121 Posts
April 24 2012 14:01 GMT
#21014
im still having issues with finding a good PSU for my build. 2500k, radeon 7850, going to OC, prb not going to do SLI.
buying in canada, can someone just link me a few good ones? I really dont know what im looking for anymore with respect to voltage, 80plus ratings, etc.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 14:10 GMT
#21015
XFX Core Edition: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC2961
Cerotix
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada121 Posts
April 24 2012 14:42 GMT
#21016
is a modular PSU just a novelty to clean up your case? or is there merit to it beyond that?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
April 24 2012 14:45 GMT
#21017
Sometimes it can be useful if you want to fill every 5V slot with a SATA cable or something along those lines but if you have something like a desktop with one GPU and four hard disks, its just a novelty to clean up cable clutter.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 24 2012 14:45 GMT
#21018
On April 24 2012 23:42 Cerotix wrote:
is a modular PSU just a novelty to clean up your case? or is there merit to it beyond that?


Just easier cable management, in and of itself.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 14:46 GMT
#21019
For a low-end build, basically.
Cerotix
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada121 Posts
April 24 2012 14:47 GMT
#21020
so unless im planning on having massive amounts of cables in my comp, or having one side being all plexiglass so you can see into it, the modular doesnt really bring anything else to the table?
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