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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 14:50 GMT
#21021
Short answer is yes.
Cerotix
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada121 Posts
April 24 2012 14:53 GMT
#21022
cool, thanks alot skyR and everybody else in this thread for the awesome advice, it is much appreciated.
wishless
Profile Joined April 2012
1 Post
April 24 2012 15:44 GMT
#21023
Hi all,

I'm planning to get a new computer for Diablo 3.
I read an old thread that suggested the build below for a US$1400 budget.

Could anyone advise on whether the build is still up to date,
or if I could get better now for my budget.

Motherboard:
Asrock P67 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229
159.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i5-2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
219.99$

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
26.99$

Graphics Card:
SAPPHIRE 100311-2SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918
329.99$ x 2 = 659.98$

Crossfire bridge(if not bundled with the cards):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814999002
10.99$


RAM:
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220569
49.99$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
89.99$

Power Supply:
Rosewill BRONZE Series RBR1000-M 1000W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182188
129.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $1,419.89

Suggested Resolution: 2560x1440, 5760x1080 eyefinity



My answers to the standard questions:

+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
US$1400

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming: Diablo 3, SC2, other MMOs/strategy games coming out in the next 2-3 years

What is your upgrade cycle?
3 years

When do you plan on building it?
First half of Apr 2012

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not unless recommended!

Where are you buying your parts from?
Singapore


Thanks!
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 16:00:06
April 24 2012 15:59 GMT
#21024
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 25 2012 00:44 wishless wrote:
Hi all,

I'm planning to get a new computer for Diablo 3.
I read an old thread that suggested the build below for a US$1400 budget.

Could anyone advise on whether the build is still up to date,
or if I could get better now for my budget.

Show nested quote +
Motherboard:
Asrock P67 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229
159.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i5-2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
219.99$

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
26.99$

Graphics Card:
SAPPHIRE 100311-2SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102918
329.99$ x 2 = 659.98$

Crossfire bridge(if not bundled with the cards):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814999002
10.99$


RAM:
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220569
49.99$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
89.99$

Power Supply:
Rosewill BRONZE Series RBR1000-M 1000W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182188
129.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Total: $1,419.89

Suggested Resolution: 2560x1440, 5760x1080 eyefinity



My answers to the standard questions:

+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
US$1400

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming: Diablo 3, SC2, other MMOs/strategy games coming out in the next 2-3 years

What is your upgrade cycle?
3 years

When do you plan on building it?
First half of Apr 2012

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not unless recommended!

Where are you buying your parts from?
Singapore


Thanks!



Firstly, that build is designed around an overclocking build, which will have large gains in RTS, and in some MMOs. Generally MMO and RTS titles tend to have lower graphical requirements, so consider dropping to a single card configuration, which will only really hurt you in demanding 3d graphical games, and if you don't crank up the anti-aliasing past 4x, should be pretty much good for max settings.

So the changes I would make (if you are set on not OCing):
Motherboard: Cheap h61 or h67 depending on whether or not you want sata III support.
CPU: 2500/2500k whichever is cheaper, 2500k if there is little to no margin.
GPU: One of 7850/7870
PSU: A quality 450-600 watt unit
RAM: Cheapest 2x4GB 1333 or 1600 mHz ram, rated speed makes no useful difference to non-niche uses
SSD: Whatever flavour is popular right now, I'm a little out of the loop (GET ONE!)

No cpu cooler (only required for overclocking, or if you need an uber silent pc. Note GPU noise>>>CPU noise, so don't bother if you aren't doing anything special with the GPU cooling)
No bridge.
I would get a less expensive case, but this is personal preference as a good case can last half a lifetime.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
April 24 2012 16:53 GMT
#21025
It would be helpful if you posted a price list or website where we can see the components available to you in Singapore.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
April 24 2012 18:05 GMT
#21026
Sorry I think my question may have been missed so I will ask it again. Would this power supply be adequate for a overclocked 2500k and 6870?

Super Flower 400W Golden Green Pro 80plus
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
April 24 2012 18:05 GMT
#21027
Yup. Just fine.
twitch.tv/medrea
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
April 24 2012 18:07 GMT
#21028
So I wouldnt have to worry about the power supply losing power later down the line and not being enough?
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 18:51:04
April 24 2012 18:50 GMT
#21029
On April 25 2012 03:07 TheMooseHeed wrote:
So I wouldnt have to worry about the power supply losing power later down the line and not being enough?


The components decay and will slowly output less wattage. All PSUs suffer from this. The fan usually give up way before this happen enough to impact your build. We're talking 10-20 years here for a quality PSU depending on heat.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
poundcakes
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway239 Posts
April 24 2012 19:30 GMT
#21030
I'm still conflicted on whether slightly better stock performance and PCI-3 support (so I can SLI my GTX 680 without bottlenecking in a couple years) from a 3570K or the lower price and the in general better overclocking you get from a 2500K for just gaming (which is what I am doing) is better. Anyone have suggestions?

Here's my build that I'm planning on purchasing soon:

GPU: EVGA GEFORCE GTX 680
CPU: INTEL CORE I5 2500K
Cooling: NOCTUA NH-D14
SSD: INTEL 520 SERIES 2.5" 120GB SSD
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR GREEN 2TB
Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-V Z77 S-1155
RAM: CORSAIR 8GB DDR3 XMS3 1333MHZ (2x4GB)
Case: FRACTAL DESIGN MIDITOWER DEFINE R3 USB3
PSU: SEASONIC M12 II 620W
The cur foretells the knell of parting day; The loafing herd winds slowly o'er the lea; The wise man homeward plods; I only stay to fiddle-faddle in a minor key.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
April 24 2012 19:45 GMT
#21031
Ivy Bridge is superior. It can achieve decent overclocks just fine. You don't need to push 5.0ghz for gaming.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
April 24 2012 19:53 GMT
#21032
By the way the M12II 620 isn't going to be enough power for SLI 680's and an overclocked 3570K, well at least not comfortably enough if you want to overclock the 680's as well, as well as not hear the fan noise (you're building in an R3 after all). It doesn't have 4x6pin connectors anyway.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:09:18
April 24 2012 20:08 GMT
#21033
On April 25 2012 04:30 poundcakes wrote:
I'm still conflicted on whether slightly better stock performance and PCI-3 support (so I can SLI my GTX 680 without bottlenecking in a couple years) from a 3570K or the lower price and the in general better overclocking you get from a 2500K for just gaming (which is what I am doing) is better. Anyone have suggestions?
+ Show Spoiler +

Here's my build that I'm planning on purchasing soon:

GPU: EVGA GEFORCE GTX 680
CPU: INTEL CORE I5 2500K
Cooling: NOCTUA NH-D14
SSD: INTEL 520 SERIES 2.5" 120GB SSD
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR GREEN 2TB
Mobo: ASUS P8Z77-V Z77 S-1155
RAM: CORSAIR 8GB DDR3 XMS3 1333MHZ (2x4GB)
Case: FRACTAL DESIGN MIDITOWER DEFINE R3 USB3
PSU: SEASONIC M12 II 620W


I'm agreed with the above two replies. [edit: wait I misread your post whoops]

I wouldn't particularly suggest thinking about SLI GTX 680s in a Fractal Design R3, though I'm sure it'd be okay with a fan in the side slot and maybe the top opened up...maybe defeating the purpose of having such a chassis but oh well.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 20:13:29
April 24 2012 20:12 GMT
#21034
Those are external exhaust models though so they should be fine with a side intake and a secondary front intake (and the top could be left covered, reducing the noise directed toward the user). There's also 2 slots of space between the PCI-e slots on the ASUS P8Z77-V Z77 so the top card won't be starved for air intake.

EE cards generally go well with sound dampened cases don't they?
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
April 24 2012 20:36 GMT
#21035
Hey TL!
I'm hoping you can help me, as I am rather clueless.!


What is your budget?

About 400, max 500 EUROS (!)

What is your resolution?

1680x1050 would be my general resolution. Might go for up to 1920*1080 if the budget allows it.

What are you using it for?

I'll be using it for games such as Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2 and numerous other games which should be comparible to GW2

What is your upgrade cycle?

semi-yearly, but for now it doesn't matter!

When do you plan on building it?

Next thursday I get the money to be able to buy it, so about that time.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not per sé!

Do you need an Operating System?

Yep, I own w7 x64 and x32

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

If the budget allows it, otherwise; Nope!

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in the Netherlands, I think that is all you need to know, as long as they can send it to me... I don't really mind!

I own:
A mouse, keyboard, headset and a monitor.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 22:37:37
April 24 2012 22:29 GMT
#21036
On April 25 2012 05:36 vijeze wrote:
Hey TL!
I'm hoping you can help me, as I am rather clueless.!


What is your budget?

About 400, max 500 EUROS (!)

What is your resolution?

1680x1050 would be my general resolution. Might go for up to 1920*1080 if the budget allows it.

What are you using it for?

I'll be using it for games such as Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2 and numerous other games which should be comparible to GW2

What is your upgrade cycle?

semi-yearly, but for now it doesn't matter!

When do you plan on building it?

Next thursday I get the money to be able to buy it, so about that time.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not per sé!

Do you need an Operating System?

Yep, I own w7 x64 and x32

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

If the budget allows it, otherwise; Nope!

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in the Netherlands, I think that is all you need to know, as long as they can send it to me... I don't really mind!

I own:
A mouse, keyboard, headset and a monitor.


Your answer didn't make it clear, so I didn't include w7, the budget kind of doesn't allow it anyway...

hardwareversand.de:

BitFenix Merc Beta 31,61 €
ASRock H61DE/S3, Sockel 1155, ATX 58,13 €
Intel Core i3-2100 Box, LGA1155 102,50 €
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SATA 6GB's 65,76 €
2GB Kingston ValueRAM PC3-10667U CL9 (2x) 24,72 €
Samsung SH-D163C SATA schwarz 12,15 €
HIS HD 6870 IceQ X GDDR5 1024MB Native HDMI 2xDVI 2xMiniDP 143,48 €
Super Flower 400W Golden Green Pro 80plus 57,06 €

sum = 495,41 € + Shipping costs + 4,99 € = 500,40 €

You'll probably have to pay a few euro extra to ship it to Netherlands, I think it's 10 € instead of 5 €
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
April 24 2012 22:30 GMT
#21037
why get a gtx460 when you can have an hd6870 at the same price on that website?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 22:40:04
April 24 2012 22:38 GMT
#21038
On April 25 2012 07:30 Rachnar wrote:
why get a gtx460 when you can have an hd6870 at the same price on that website?


Fixed it. You're right, 6870 is slightly better. I sorted after manufacturer so must have missed that. The 460 should be a bit cheaper than that normally.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 22:48:06
April 24 2012 22:47 GMT
#21039
build so far ~800€ budget:
i5-2500k 180€
asrock z77 pro4 100€
430W be quiet! Pure Power CM L8 54€
HR-02 macho 35€
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Cores 235€
8GB G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3-1600 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit 38€
LG Electronics GH22NS90 SATA DVD+-R/RW bulk 15€

looks good?

only thing im still unsure about is the case. antec p280, nzxt phantom, CM 690 II advanced would be my current list. ( got recommended the 550d before but various people said its too expensive here @ 125€ for what it does)
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 24 2012 22:53 GMT
#21040
690ii is the cheapest of the ones you listed. If you don't value the case as much than just get the cheapest case.
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