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QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 10 2010 10:53 GMT
#21
R1CH helping Artosis out
. . . nevermore
DimZ
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom30 Posts
May 10 2010 11:07 GMT
#22
Awesome guide R1CH, Thanks
daarkside
Profile Joined July 2005
Germany56 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-17 15:24:16
May 17 2010 15:04 GMT
#23
sry i was an idiot
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
July 29 2010 01:18 GMT
#24
I'm glad I found this. I bumped up the paged pool limit to 256 and now the error only occurs during the most technically demanding moments. I tried going another step up with the next registry file but when I checked process explorer after reboot, nothing had changed. I guess that means that level isn't supported by my system? Is there a way to go any higher and would you recommend that?

My system specs are:
Windows XP Home
Intel E8500 core 2 Duo
ATI Radeon HD4870 1gb
4gb RAM

It's a rather new computer so I'm surprised this is even happening. I only have 35 processes including SC2 and they're all pretty light so I'm puzzled.
MIK Terran
forrgar
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 15:55:21
July 29 2010 15:40 GMT
#25
Hi, my name is Dennis and I'm a new member on TL.
Great guide and thanks for it!
I have one issue though.
When I try to higher the "paged pool" size, it won't work.
It says "Paged Limit: 163 840" and when I register "using the next highest provided .reg files" it doesn't change, it's still at 163 840.
The recommended settings for my SC2 is Ultra, I've lowered it to the lowest and I get the "paged pool error" all the time.
I would love to get some help with this, I would really really appreciate it.
Edit: System spec:
-Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz.
-2 GB RAM.
-Windows XP pro.
-ATI Radeon HD 4800.

/regards Dennis
forrgar
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 11:41:14
July 30 2010 11:40 GMT
#26
Hi again!
I mananged to fix the "paged pool" issue.
I just updated my gfx drivers and the paged pool memory changed it self!
I can now run it on ultra w/o any errors.
@Ruken, try updating your drivers!

/Dennis
Heth
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
August 01 2010 04:41 GMT
#27
poolmon can give you good insight of Paged and Non paged memory too. it's a standard tool from microsoft, google it. here is the 64bit version I found http://rapidshare.com/files/410295997/poolmon.7z the 32 you can find it easy on the net.

poolmon gives you currently active processes with TAGs in the pool memory so you can see what is eating it most. for me it was the NV driver with 86MB when I load All In from the campaign.
Kelberot
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 20:09:49
August 01 2010 20:09 GMT
#28
Did everything, paged memory didn't update to 256. It's still 229, and I'm at 4gb ram, even though I'm using windows XP 32, so it doesn't fully recognize my ram.

I guess it's time to update my windows, my PC should be able to handle this game just fine but I get that error all the time, sometimes the FPS drops drastically to sub 5 and it only fixes by restarting the game (not even the PC).
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
August 02 2010 18:04 GMT
#29
I am getting this problem all the time, I have winxp with 3gb memory and my paged pool is only 101k. I have a Radeon 5750 with the latest ATI drivers but still having this problem.
Marines > everything
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
August 02 2010 20:31 GMT
#30
Thanks I'll try this out. I've been getting warnings like crazy and after 2-3 hours of playing my game suddenly "crashes" and goes pretty much frame by frame... happened in SP and in MP. Really unfair T_T.
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Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
August 03 2010 23:07 GMT
#31
On July 30 2010 20:40 forrgar wrote:
Hi again!
I mananged to fix the "paged pool" issue.
I just updated my gfx drivers and the paged pool memory changed it self!
I can now run it on ultra w/o any errors.
@Ruken, try updating your drivers!

/Dennis

True I do still have to update my driver lol.

FOR ANYONE STILL GETTING THE ERROR AFTER THE FIX:
Right click my computer> click advanced tab> click settings under performance> click the advanced tab> In the virtual memory box, look at the total paging file size for all drives. Mine was only at 128 MB. I upped it to 1024 MB and that fixed the last of my problems.
MIK Terran
zachj
Profile Joined August 2010
3 Posts
August 05 2010 20:22 GMT
#32
For anyone still getting these paged pool low messages after trying to increase VRAM:

I found that my windows xpsp3 had a limitation on the paged pool memory in the registry file. After I changed this value from "0x10000000" to "0xffffffff" my paged pool memory limit jumped up from 160MB to 358MB, solving my problem with SC2. I had followed the instructions in this article and it had bumped my paged pool max up to 229MB, but with a little more digging on the internet I found a better (and easier) solution. SC2 now runs smoothly on medium settings on my machine.

to do this, follow the path in regedit:System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session Manager/Memory Manager. In the Memory Manager folder you will see the file called "page pool limit". double click on it, and make the change I mentioned above. Close Regedit, and restart the machine.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
August 05 2010 20:44 GMT
#33
Thanks, I've updated the guide with information from the last few posts.
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rei-gouki
Profile Joined August 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 03:01:39
August 06 2010 02:31 GMT
#34
This is wrt to the retail SC2. And FuryX, one article/post I read suggested that this problem was typical to 32 bit systems (XP?) as there's a 4GB RAM recognition limit which in turn reduces the size of the memory set aside for Kernel usage.

As a couple of points of note, I only installed the stated "Debugging Tools for Windows" via the web install app as well as the appropriate Symbols set separately. The directory it installed to also had a "{x86}" tagged on the end, but could just be due to the method I used to install it.

Also, I'm not sure if it's same for all, but the default installation path for Symbols for my XP32 appears to be \Windows\Symbols which would affect the command on the last line of step #3 which has it as \symbols.

I have:
- XP32 SP3
- AMD Dual Core
- 4GB RAM
- ASUS EAH4870 512MB, Dual Screen 1280x1024 32bit for both.
- Logitech G15+G13 software.
- Onboard sound (2.0)

I found out the default (set by XP) was running around 145MB Paged Limit. This was fine in WoW (most of the time, as I found out later). Same with SC2 (early/small maps only?). But on monitoring the Kernel Memory usage after making the adjustments to the 192MB setting, I saw both Virtual and Physical peak at around 185MB while playing the Media Blitz campaign map. It may yet go higher, but at least for the time being, 192MB seems enough to deal with the Page Pool Memory issue. I'll update if that changes.

Oh, recommended gfx settings by SC2 were Texture: High, and the Ultra preset.


EDIT: zachj, the edits you suggested are done by the the *.reg files in the zip linked by the OP.
zachj
Profile Joined August 2010
3 Posts
August 06 2010 16:30 GMT
#35
rei-gouki, ya, it looks like the "pagedpool-max.reg file recently added in step 9 is probably the same thing I suggested, since "ffffffff" tells windows to allocate the most resources possible to this pool. But it wasn't there at the time I posted.
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 03:43:20
August 08 2010 03:42 GMT
#36
thanks zach, Ive had the same problem for a while with the 229k limit not being enough to solve my pagedpool problems, heres hoping the 50% increase will make it a nonissue
but even before that this guide made the SP campaign more than playable <3
Meh.
hussyshah331
Profile Joined August 2010
Pakistan1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 04:29:52
August 11 2010 11:00 GMT
#37
we can get a usefull answer for this site. Then you can get a $10 credit to post their question from

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User was banned for this post.
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Ezareth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States60 Posts
August 16 2010 23:13 GMT
#38
All, I have a pretty sweet system and continued getting this error. I went through these steps and found the max Virtual Page Limit for XP32 bit is 490MB, mine was already set to 384MB.

I did some more research at microsoft and found this:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb870880(v=VS.85).aspx

Mainly "System virtual address (VA) space on 32-bit systems can become exhausted due to fragmentation."

I ran a degragmentation analysis and saw a 3.46 GB SCII file that was fragmented in 237 places among other things. Basically if this is happening, as lame as it sounds try defragging your computer. The installation of SCII as well as the ton of large patches since, are guaranteed to cause fragmentation on smaller performance sets and smaller hard drives like many of us use for our applications.

I haven't had this issue happen since.
Hope is the Denial of Reality
Zyphen[p]
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
August 18 2010 19:24 GMT
#39
I tried upping the Paged Pool Size reg value to 0xffffffff and defragmented both drives and the problem went away. Thanks!
Without music, life would be a mistake.
Novangel
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1 Post
August 21 2010 22:50 GMT
#40
I tried the first
cd "\Program Files\Debugging Tools for Windows"
didn't work
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