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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
May 15 2011 11:21 GMT
#61
Hello R1CH,

I've used your guide and fixed my problem 100% on Windows XP.

However, I have a friend with Windows 7, and is getting the same problem after a reset format of his computer. As I am unable to check on Windows7, does your guide also apply for Win7, so I can recommend this thread to him?

Thanks
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 07:34:47
May 26 2011 20:30 GMT
#62
On May 09 2010 04:13 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 20:21 Shade692003 wrote:
Windows kernel and device drivers to use as memory.


I often get this warning, with 2gb of ram so I was confused what was wrong because there was plenty of ram left but now I see the problem is very different. Still I don't really understand, from what you say the paged pool is an allocated spaced in the memory for exclusive use for drivers and windows, so why is Starcraft 2 taking space in it? Are processes like vmware and sqlserver included? I noticed I have alot of them running.

Starcraft 2 makes heavy use of video and sound, so your video and sound drivers will be allocating paged pool memory. Most applications should use very little, VMware I suspect would use a bit, SQL server I'm not sure about - I can't imagine why it would use much if it does.

Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 06:12 Voideka wrote:
Just a note, I had this problem with L4D2 on XP. Turned out it was because I had the /3gb switch on. Something to look into!

Yeah the /3GB switch is not something you should use without fully understanding how it works, it only gives your programs more memory if they were actually compiled with large address aware settings, and it reduces the amount of memory available to the kernel so you have lower paged pool sizes amongst other things.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2010 01:07 Draken wrote:
What are the graphic settings that use page pool memory? I'd rather reduce the settings than start messing around with windows.

Also, is there a way to see which program is taking how much page pool memory? I have avira antivirus and a couple of other software running in background... and I want to see whats taking all the memory so I can get another antivirus or something if necessary.

Unfortunately you can't tell which programs are using it since it's allocated by the kernel. The best way to tell is simply to watch the numbers while closing programs or disabling anti-virus etc.


You need to go back to reading MSDN, drivers use the NON PAGED POOL, the paged pool is other aspects of the kernel / drivers that don't require direct access to IRQL's, and parts of every other app running on the system..

This means that Sound and Video driver binaries have no direct impact on the paged pool, but subcomponents of them may, such as helper services, or those running in svchost.
GeeMoney
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1 Post
June 19 2011 17:10 GMT
#63
Hi, I finally solved my PAGED POOL MEMORY LOW problem. I also posted this on the battle.net tech support forum.

I play SC2 on several of my PCs with no problems except for 1 system that always gives me the paged pool memory low error. Here are the specs.

ASRock M3A770DE
AMD Athlon II X3 450
Nvidia GTS 250 1GB
4GB RAM
Windows 7 x64

Since I am running x64 paged pool memory should not be an issue. I did all bios, driver, and windows updates. I tried different combinations of graphics settings and messed around with variables.txt. I read this fourm/thread and tried the suggestions, but they are mostly for 32-bit XP. Then I read somewhere that someone disabled their antivirus software and it worked. I am running Avast free antivirus (latest version 6.0.1125). I disabled it and I was able to play all last night with no issue. So problem solved for me.

For some reason SC2 and Avast don't get along on this particular system. I use Avast on all my other PCs and SC2 runs just fine.

Maybe this will help some of you out...
iMp.will.
Profile Joined July 2009
Bulgaria441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 07:25:10
August 15 2011 06:51 GMT
#64
I received this memory warning two days ago. Till now Ive never had problems playing but now Ive got this horrible lag spikes every 10 seconds.

I did everything listed in the first post but I still have the same lag spikes in game. Its horrible and driving me crazy already.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10rthmd&s=7

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2r59iq0&s=7

I used the deault PagedPool. I am with 4GB RAM and using XP. My graphics in game are at medium and I only received this memory warning once. Also when I alt tab when in game I start dropping for a few seconds and get a few seconds delay before i get transfered back in the game.

Would appreciate any help..
germs
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines3 Posts
August 16 2011 15:06 GMT
#65
Hi everyone, just an hour ago I encountered this problem...

Everything worked fine last night while playing, but out of nowhere weird particles and lines appeared on the screen today. It isn't my video card since I tried playing other heavy GPU games such as Crysis2 and AliceMadnessReturns.
I tried restarting my system but still the same issue.

Here are my specs: i7 920 @4.0ghz, gtx470, 6gb dominator, 1tb hdd

Hope someone could help me out! Thanks in advance.

-xFgGerms
germs.540
jjjuicy
Profile Joined September 2011
301 Posts
September 10 2011 18:01 GMT
#66
On August 17 2011 00:06 germs wrote:
Hi everyone, just an hour ago I encountered this problem...

Everything worked fine last night while playing, but out of nowhere weird particles and lines appeared on the screen today. It isn't my video card since I tried playing other heavy GPU games such as Crysis2 and AliceMadnessReturns.
I tried restarting my system but still the same issue.

Here are my specs: i7 920 @4.0ghz, gtx470, 6gb dominator, 1tb hdd

Hope someone could help me out! Thanks in advance.

-xFgGerms


I have the exact problem as you.
My boyfriend built me a computer to play sc2. Im running windows 7.

Specs:
Mobo: Gigabyte 970A-D3
CPU: AMD X4 Phenom 955 Black edition
CPU heatsink: Arctic Freezer Pro 7 Rev2
RAM: mushkin silverline 4GB DDR3-1333
Videocard: XFX GT240
PSU: 400W
monitor: 22" 1920x1080

After about 3-4 games, I get a "low page pool memory" warning and then my screen gets all 'fuzzy'.. with artifacts and lines. Sort of like the static you get on TV.

Other than the game I don't really have anything running in the background.. MSN, skype, Avast antivirus

Does anyone know what the problem is and how I can fix it? It's really annoying to have to restart my computer ever few games. I also already tried setting the virtual memory higher but it doesn't help.

Any help is appreciated, thanks!
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 00:58:34
September 11 2011 00:57 GMT
#67
I know the problem (I get it whenever the computer has been on for long, even without gaming or actually doing anything), although I don't know what causes it other than perhaps some connection with overheating or with split 12V rail on the PSU (single lines are better for the more demanding GFX cards), the latter obviously not being connected to paged pool mem but causing similar behaviour of the graphics card.
jjjuicy
Profile Joined September 2011
301 Posts
September 21 2011 00:58 GMT
#68
so does that mean it's a graphics card problem???
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
September 22 2011 15:22 GMT
#69
On August 15 2011 15:51 iMp.will. wrote:
I received this memory warning two days ago. Till now Ive never had problems playing but now Ive got this horrible lag spikes every 10 seconds.

I did everything listed in the first post but I still have the same lag spikes in game. Its horrible and driving me crazy already.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10rthmd&s=7

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2r59iq0&s=7

I used the deault PagedPool. I am with 4GB RAM and using XP. My graphics in game are at medium and I only received this memory warning once. Also when I alt tab when in game I start dropping for a few seconds and get a few seconds delay before i get transfered back in the game.

Would appreciate any help..


You sure you use XP ? you screenshot look like Win7 and XP won't use 4gig of ram.
n_n
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
September 22 2011 15:42 GMT
#70
On September 23 2011 00:22 FaCE_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 15:51 iMp.will. wrote:
I received this memory warning two days ago. Till now Ive never had problems playing but now Ive got this horrible lag spikes every 10 seconds.

I did everything listed in the first post but I still have the same lag spikes in game. Its horrible and driving me crazy already.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10rthmd&s=7

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2r59iq0&s=7

I used the deault PagedPool. I am with 4GB RAM and using XP. My graphics in game are at medium and I only received this memory warning once. Also when I alt tab when in game I start dropping for a few seconds and get a few seconds delay before i get transfered back in the game.

Would appreciate any help..


You sure you use XP ? you screenshot look like Win7 and XP won't use 4gig of ram.


2 things. It looks like XP with a windows 7 skin, windows 7 doesn't actually look like that. And XP will use 4gig of ram just fine. 64bit windows is required to user over 4GB of RAM, If you are running 32bit you can still use 4GB, but only as a maximum total memory (So if your video card uses 512 then you lose that in RAM).
Wahaha
DeltaX
Profile Joined August 2011
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 23:55:13
September 24 2011 19:33 GMT
#71
Nevermind, this didn't actually work
masch
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia2 Posts
September 25 2011 07:14 GMT
#72
I don't know how many "solutions" I have read. I can't play SC2 for more than 10 minutes without freezing.

I have the ASUS ROG G53SX gaming notebook
Win7 64 bit
Intel i7
Nvidia GTX 560m 2GB vram
8GB DDR3

I have just reinstalled windows 7 with all the latest ASUS and nVidia drivers.
I have installed SC2 and patched to 1.4. Nothing else installed. Not even anti virus.
(This is because I want to use SC2 to test this machine, and SC2 is the only one I have)

I have stereoscopic 3D turned off. I have set nVidia driver to set PhysX to use GPU.

I disable wifi, and set to play Offline Mode.

I set Video options - everything to the lowest possible.
I alt-tab back to desktop, open Task Manager, under Processes find SC2(*32).exe and right click, set Priority to High. Affinity is still 4 processors.

Alt-tab back into the game, I play for a while, and then suddenly the screen flickers, the harddrive light turns on for about 5 seconds, then I see my desktop, then another 5 seconds I see SC2 game again, with a message that pops up : Paged pool memory is running low - all video settings are dumbed down etc. Then if I continue playing, it will blank out again (like trying to go back to desktop), in fact I think the game is trying to change resolution or something, you know when you set resolution the screen goes to desktop for a while and goes back to load the game. After it blanks out, it will freeze, blank screen. I can't ctrl-alt-del, nothing happens, alt-tab or windows button no response. The sound usually continues playing or stutters at this point.

This setting is the furthest I have reached, usually after about 4 minutes.

Before I made those changes, I'd have normal settings, graphics set to medium or high, no setting of process priority, I'd last about 2 mins in game then the switch-to-desktop-back-into-game happens about 4 to 5 times until it freezes. At least with the latest settings, it doesnt switch to desktop and back into game that often, only once or twice and freeze.

If I find out why the screen goes to desktop then back into game (without me touching anything), then I'd understand what the problem is.

Right now it seems even windows 7 64-bit does not solve the paged pool memory thing.

Does anyone have any suggestions to assist me with the problems?

*btw I also used regedit to change the PagedPoolSize from 0x00000000 to 0xffffffff - and I don't see any difference. It still switches and switches until it freezes.







LiquidSlick
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
October 05 2011 07:57 GMT
#73
I am having the same issue as the poster above me. I just got a new computer with the Nvidia GTX 580. System recommends Ultra nad Extreme settings. I have the i7 processor and 16gbs of RAM. I should CLEARLY be able to run this game on any setting.

I can play for probably 7-10 minutes and it locks up. On a couple occasions I get the page pool memory error. A lot of the time it will completely lock up and cntrl-alt-delete wont even work. I restart the computer and theg ame will load and etc. I get minor amounts of artifacting and most of the time the screen will go black. The audio will also skip at this point. The computer is BRAND NEW and has only SC2 and xsplit on it.

PLEASE help me out. I can't figure it out...
"Tonights the night." - Dexter Morgan
tUUTZ
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland122 Posts
October 05 2011 08:05 GMT
#74
Is there any way to disable the retarded warnings. I can run the game fine, but all the time my screen is full of "your PC is shit hahaha lmao" "running out of paged pool memory" "get a new computer faggot" "your computer sucks" messages blocking my whole vision. They always make me unable to split immediately as there is like 3 warnings at the start of the game.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
October 05 2011 08:07 GMT
#75
On October 05 2011 16:57 LiquidSlick wrote:
I am having the same issue as the poster above me. I just got a new computer with the Nvidia GTX 580. System recommends Ultra nad Extreme settings. I have the i7 processor and 16gbs of RAM. I should CLEARLY be able to run this game on any setting.

I can play for probably 7-10 minutes and it locks up. On a couple occasions I get the page pool memory error. A lot of the time it will completely lock up and cntrl-alt-delete wont even work. I restart the computer and theg ame will load and etc. I get minor amounts of artifacting and most of the time the screen will go black. The audio will also skip at this point. The computer is BRAND NEW and has only SC2 and xsplit on it.

PLEASE help me out. I can't figure it out...


Have you tried downloading the latest drivers from Nvidia's site? Which version are you using currently?
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
masch
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia2 Posts
October 08 2011 02:07 GMT
#76


Have you tried downloading the latest drivers from Nvidia's site? Which version are you using currently?


Latest drivers. I think 280.26.

Now running tweakforce drivers.. from dxdiag it says 8.17.12.8026

Its driving me up the wall. I have 8GB RAM and over 1GB RAM

This is the ASUS Republic of Gamers series, G53SX. The full specs are also online.
Midori8
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia126 Posts
October 17 2011 10:14 GMT
#77
OMG R1CH you are awesome! :D

Tried this, was getting the message sometimes lategame, but the game started running really slow earlygame, so tried it and it worked.

Thanks
Alchemist07
Profile Joined October 2011
2 Posts
October 24 2011 22:34 GMT
#78
Hi all,

My laptop is a Gatway p-6831fx with Nvidia 8800m gts, T9300 intel core 2 duo, and 3GB ram.

I started to get problems with the screen on my laptop crashing after installing the nvidia BF3 beta driver and playing BF3 beta for an hour or so. After that I started to get intermittent black screens on the desktop and messages saying "...kernel mode driver xxx.xx crashed and recovered successfully"...figured something was messed up with drivers and reinstalling old drivers didnt help at all...In the end formatted and reinstalled windows 7 32 bit.

Problem went away but after a week its back with a vengeance..was using tweakforce 280.26 drivers since they helped a bit before I formatted windows but now when i play sc2 get the paged pool memory error message, except it lets me play out the rest of the match, and then crashes with blue then black screen at the summary screen.

was getting the driver recovered message a bit too but now only getting crashes with sc2 after going to the 280.26 whql driver.

Any ideas?..would try the method posted but its for xp not windows 7.... gna try the variables.txt method then try disabling avast next.

Would try a clean install of windows 7 64bit If I knew that would help but no point if will still get errors.
lyrlian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands257 Posts
October 25 2011 00:13 GMT
#79
This never worked for me, I tried to get it to work, time and time again, after upgrading to windows 7 and getting 4GB memory, I have never seen this error again
@lyrlian on twitter! Caster for ESET, WCS and various other events.
Alchemist07
Profile Joined October 2011
2 Posts
October 26 2011 18:17 GMT
#80
On October 25 2011 07:34 Alchemist07 wrote:
Hi all,

My laptop is a Gatway p-6831fx with Nvidia 8800m gts, T9300 intel core 2 duo, and 3GB ram.

I started to get problems with the screen on my laptop crashing after installing the nvidia BF3 beta driver and playing BF3 beta for an hour or so. After that I started to get intermittent black screens on the desktop and messages saying "...kernel mode driver xxx.xx crashed and recovered successfully"...figured something was messed up with drivers and reinstalling old drivers didnt help at all...In the end formatted and reinstalled windows 7 32 bit.

Problem went away but after a week its back with a vengeance..was using tweakforce 280.26 drivers since they helped a bit before I formatted windows but now when i play sc2 get the paged pool memory error message, except it lets me play out the rest of the match, and then crashes with blue then black screen at the summary screen.

was getting the driver recovered message a bit too but now only getting crashes with sc2 after going to the 280.26 whql driver.

Any ideas?..would try the method posted but its for xp not windows 7.... gna try the variables.txt method then try disabling avast next.

Would try a clean install of windows 7 64bit If I knew that would help but no point if will still get errors.


Ugh, now tried alternative antivirus from Avast (Ad-aware from lavasoft) which didnt chang anything.

Also reinstalled windows 7 in 64 bit ...didnt help.

Next might try stick to an older driver I had that I never had problems with (sucks to lose the performance of the newer driver though) and see if that helps
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