I don't know how I feel about this, she seems good but her Kerrigan (the last part of the MP3 below) seems... I don't know, less menacing? Maybe it's just a natural prejudice against anything that isn't the original actress.
I suppose if she made her voice raspier and the distortion was upped a bit it would sound similar to before. In any case, the voice shouldn't be too much of an issue to fix.
Hard to tell from just one line... but no, I just listened to some of Campbell's (the original Kerrigan) stuff at the end of this and the old voice actress was way better.
What a weird ass audio track, she's versatile and pretty damn good but no... YOU ARE NOT OUR KERRIGAN!
The original SC+BW campaigns had excellent and superb voice acting for it's time, 10+ years later the standard should be lower?
Um actually did she do some voicework for System Shock 2? Reminds me of Shodan, it's the french accent sounds alot like this one character, looking at her resume yeah probably not.
On August 12 2009 23:29 Strayline wrote: Hard to tell from just one line... but no, I just listened to some of Campbell's (the original Kerrigan) stuff at the end of this and the old voice actress was way better.
Please realise that all voices go through siginificant audio tweaking before you make any judgements. Even in a typical Hollywood movie with lots of dialogue, every single line is scrutinised and altered. If it does not sound exactly like you are used to, that's because what you hear in SC1 has a ton of audio fine tuning on top of it and this is just a sample.
Seriously no reason to replace the old actress, and what they did to her was pretty lame. Letting her do that one opening cinematic where she confronts Zeratul, making her think she has the job then saying "oh that was the TRYOUT for the job and we are going in a diff direction". How lame she was kick ass before.
On August 13 2009 00:07 The Storyteller wrote: Please realise that all voices go through siginificant audio tweaking before you make any judgements. Even in a typical Hollywood movie with lots of dialogue, every single line is scrutinised and altered. If it does not sound exactly like you are used to, that's because what you hear in SC1 has a ton of audio fine tuning on top of it and this is just a sample.
I guess it will be fine when thats added - I just hate voice changes haha
She's obviously very good, so it's not about that at least
On August 13 2009 00:07 The Storyteller wrote: Please realise that all voices go through siginificant audio tweaking before you make any judgements.
true but the old kerrigan voice is over 10 years older than the new one. im sure these effects that take a 5 minute job to put on the new voice are similar in power to the effects they had 10 years ago that took hours of work.
having said that i guess they can make any voice sound menacing with today's technology.
On August 13 2009 00:07 The Storyteller wrote: Please realise that all voices go through siginificant audio tweaking before you make any judgements.
true but the old kerrigan voice is over 10 years older than the new one. im sure these effects that take a 5 minute job to put on the new voice are similar in power to the effects they had 10 years ago that took hours of work.
having said that i guess they can make any voice sound menacing with today's technology.
I've heard her voice as Kallen Stadtfeld in Code Geass.
She has a very typical girl voice in my opinion. I think I agree with the idea that she would be a good human Kerrigan, but whether or not she would make a good zerg Kerrigan is something that remains to be seen.
If they were going to pick an anime voice actress for Kerrigan, I personally would've gone with Mary Elizabeth McGlynn instead. I think McGlynn is just an amazing actress and can portray just about any role really well.
She's got potential, but she's trying too hard in that clip.
With Glynnis's voice, Kerrigan proclaimed in a smooth, scandalous tone that she really was queen bitch of the universe and that there was nothing anyone could do about it. In fact, her voice was so sexy that part of you liked the fact that she was in charge. It hypnotized you to where all you ever wanted to do was please her.
This new chick simply sounds like an angsty little brat in her late teens that just needs a good pimp-slap to the face. There is absolutely nothing captivating about her voice.
On August 13 2009 02:18 n00bonicPlague wrote: She's got potential, but she's trying too hard in that clip.
With Glynnis's voice, Kerrigan proclaimed in a smooth, scandalous tone that she really was queen bitch of the universe and that there was nothing anyone could do about it. In fact, her voice was so sexy that part of you liked the fact that she was in charge. It hypnotized you to where all you ever wanted to do was please her.
This new chick simply sounds like an angsty little brat in her late teens that just needs a good pimp-slap to the face. There is absolutely nothing captivating about her voice.
On August 13 2009 02:18 n00bonicPlague wrote: She's got potential, but she's trying too hard in that clip.
With Glynnis's voice, Kerrigan proclaimed in a smooth, scandalous tone that she really was queen bitch of the universe and that there was nothing anyone could do about it. In fact, her voice was so sexy that part of you liked the fact that she was in charge. It hypnotized you to where all you ever wanted to do was please her.
This new chick simply sounds like an angsty little brat in her late teens that just needs a good pimp-slap to the face. There is absolutely nothing captivating about her voice.
Yeah, this new voice would've sounded great for the uninfested or even newly infested Kerrigan. But Kerrigan is like 31 now and should sound like a woman -- not a little girl.
I agree her voice is too high pitched and not gritty enough. Can anyone enlighten me as to why they switched voice actors for this role? I'm obviously missing something.
Oh, give it a break... If you listen to the comparison you can easily tell the original had about 3 filters on it, and Karen's recording is clean. I think with filters and everything I'm sure it will be fine, but I'm probably just saying that because I find it hard to care about single player games, esp RTS campaigns.
Given this woman's resume in videogames, more than likely someone who works at blizzard had a good experience with her (strassman) on some other game.
There is also the fact that campbell now uses sarah mckerrigan as a pseudonym for her romance novels. They may have been a bit freaked out that someone would do that.
Well this might change...Karen Strassman might not make it to actually record the voice patterns for sc2...I mean, how old is she? 30ish? 40ish? and when will sc2 actually get finnished? 2112 anyone??
I totally hate how she pronounces "important" words. It annoyed me not even half way through. I basically didn't like any of that voice acting in that MP3. And I am pretty sure that no matter how many filters you apply, she will still annoy me.
This is retarded, her voice is way off and the real voice of Kerrigan is ready and willing to do it. Why does Blizzard always have to fix whats not broken.
On August 13 2009 04:26 Chuiu wrote: This is retarded, her voice is way off and the real voice of Kerrigan is ready and willing to do it. Why does Blizzard always have to fix whats not broken.
My only guess is that Blizzard doesn't pay much for their voice actor. Since it's Blizzard, it's really easy for them to dump the actors and get new hobos down the street.
On August 13 2009 04:26 Chuiu wrote: This is retarded, her voice is way off and the real voice of Kerrigan is ready and willing to do it. Why does Blizzard always have to fix whats not broken.
My only guess is that Blizzard doesn't pay much for their voice actor. Since it's Blizzard, it's really easy for them to dump the actors and get new hobos down the street.
But see that's the retarded part. They're dropping their now retired-from-voice-acting-living-poorly-as-a-writer voice actor for a has-a-huge-ass-resume-and-probably-charges-up-the-wazoo-for-voice-acting voice actor. I seriously doubt she wants a huge costly contract with Blizzard who literally has millions to throw away at their games considering she wants to do it and even uses the pen name "Sarah McKerrigan" on her generic romance novels.
I don't think it was just the filters. IMO you can tell by the spacing and emphasis they each use when delivering the line that the first sounded a little better. The second one seemed acceptable though.
On August 13 2009 04:26 Chuiu wrote: This is retarded, her voice is way off and the real voice of Kerrigan is ready and willing to do it. Why does Blizzard always have to fix whats not broken.
My only guess is that Blizzard doesn't pay much for their voice actor. Since it's Blizzard, it's really easy for them to dump the actors and get new hobos down the street.
But see that's the retarded part. They're dropping their now retired-from-voice-acting-living-poorly-as-a-writer voice actor for a has-a-huge-ass-resume-and-probably-charges-up-the-wazoo-for-voice-acting voice actor. I seriously doubt she wants a huge costly contract with Blizzard who literally has millions to throw away at their games considering she wants to do it and even uses the pen name "Sarah McKerrigan" on her generic romance novels.
Yeah your right, I can't make any sense out of it. I just hope someone here from TL who will go to Blizzcon will ask Blizzard what's up with that.
Anyone who's a professional voice actor can make their voice deeper as well, so it's not like we'll be hearing high pitched bubbly Kerrigan come release.
cmon guys, give it a rest. so they replace the original voice of kerrigan.
the new one doesnt sound that good? well obv, they need some post-processing. dont like her? no one likes change. but heres a shocker: things change. might as well embrace it. it wont kill you
On August 13 2009 04:26 Chuiu wrote: This is retarded, her voice is way off and the real voice of Kerrigan is ready and willing to do it. Why does Blizzard always have to fix whats not broken.
My only guess is that Blizzard doesn't pay much for their voice actor. Since it's Blizzard, it's really easy for them to dump the actors and get new hobos down the street.
But see that's the retarded part. They're dropping their now retired-from-voice-acting-living-poorly-as-a-writer voice actor for a has-a-huge-ass-resume-and-probably-charges-up-the-wazoo-for-voice-acting voice actor. I seriously doubt she wants a huge costly contract with Blizzard who literally has millions to throw away at their games considering she wants to do it and even uses the pen name "Sarah McKerrigan" on her generic romance novels.
Its like english translation to a Japanese anime, although it might be the best they can do to bring about the feeling that is tried to evoke in the Jap. version, you will not be able to please the fans of the original.
The voice she is gonna be doing is nothing like any of the previous stuff she's done (from that clip). The very end she asctually does the kerrigan voice, and it's fine imo.
Honestly I don't give a shit about the voice acting too much. Old kerrigan voice was annoying to me anyways.
He voice will be changed in Post-production JUST like the original kerrigan, Ghost kerrigan sounds very diff to Queen o' blades. this is a bad example shes voicing a different character with different motivations.
Her voice could be a bit deeper, but so far I think she's a pretty good choice. Karen Strassman already has the skill, so a little change of tone and voice filters can make her sound evil. I'll still miss the old Kerrigan, but I'm pretty satisfied with her replacement right now.
She's great, and I'm sure she'd be a great fit for Kerrigan, especially after they put some filters and such over that. But for myself and many others, the disappointment isn't from a lack of talent (she obviously has a lot of it), it's about nostalgia.
All I know is they better make the voice sound good. As a devoted member of the swarm I don't want our leader to sound like she is a 20 year old college student who worries more about her hair then conquering the universe,
Im sure she will do fine, im really impressed with how many different voices she can act. Her at the end was pretty neat, dont know what i like better though, but im sure she will do fine. Shes not so bad imo.
Ehhh...I don't know how I feel. Mainly when it comes to video games/anime/animated movies that I would favor the original because I associate that character with a certain voice. I haven't watched much of Pokemon lately, but I instantly picked up on the new voice actors. I don't know if they were trying to imitate her voice or duplicate it, but it's just minor things like this that gnaw at me.
Futurama is the same. If they changed their voice actors, it would be hard for me to not think about it. Much like other iconic characters, if Homer Simpson or Solid Snake were done by anyone other than this original voice actor, I would most likely be predisposed to not like it. Why change things that work?
I did listen to that mp3 and it seems that she's an okay voice actor, but for Kerrigan...I'm not really sure. I'm just going to need more time and samples to judge fully. Ideally, I would want to stick with GTC no matter what.
If the new voice doesnt sound the exact same as the old one I will be upset. I have played this game to many times to have Kerrigan's voice be any different.
On August 13 2009 04:26 Chuiu wrote: This is retarded, her voice is way off and the real voice of Kerrigan is ready and willing to do it. Why does Blizzard always have to fix whats not broken.
My only guess is that Blizzard doesn't pay much for their voice actor. Since it's Blizzard, it's really easy for them to dump the actors and get new hobos down the street.
But see that's the retarded part. They're dropping their now retired-from-voice-acting-living-poorly-as-a-writer voice actor for a has-a-huge-ass-resume-and-probably-charges-up-the-wazoo-for-voice-acting voice actor. I seriously doubt she wants a huge costly contract with Blizzard who literally has millions to throw away at their games considering she wants to do it and even uses the pen name "Sarah McKerrigan" on her generic romance novels.
Most likely she is doing more than one role.
Glynnis Campbell has done the voice for several things across numerous blizzard games. Theres no reason why she couldn't fill the same role for Starcraft 2 (return of the medic voice too).
Basically it comes down to whether or not she fits the bill as Kerrigan in SCII as many have said, and personally I don´t think she does. It will be interesting to see if they tweak the voice with filters and post processesing, but cmon... Her resumé can be 9 million pages long.. she could have done every voice in the universe and been good at it, and it STILL means absolutely shit if she can´t do a believable and most of all an authentic Sarah Kerrigan.
Imagine Homer Simpsons having a different voice in the next 21st season of The Simpsons?
You would sit in your chair and almost choke on your food going W T F ?????? Did they just do to good old Homer? ;S
On August 13 2009 09:00 Mutaahh wrote: btw, Zerg_Reveal_FINAL_EnglishUS_XVid.avi = her voice then?
That's a good question...
If that vid was the one where it was mostly ingame footage of the zerg with a female voice over it, that wasn't Glynnis Talken. The only SC2 thing to have the original Kerrigan voice actor in it was the Kerrigan/Zeratul vid I believe.
I like Strassman. She's really, really good. I loved a lot of the roles she's filled and she's ridiculously versatile. She'll fit the role especially in post-production. Don't worry so much. Think about how many "voices" will be changed from BW to SC2. This is just another.
On August 14 2009 06:12 Chill wrote: Everyone is so resistant to change. She sounds good.
I'm only resistant to change when the change isn't an improvement. And in this case you're changing a voice actor. That would be like a really huge and popular movie like Lethal Weapon subbing out Mel Gibson for some lookalike and then paying him more. They did this from WC2 to WC3 and it bothered the fuck out of me. Grom Hellscream went from being a badass to a pussy. Other characters lost their style for a more watered down approach to expression.
On August 14 2009 06:08 404.Nintu wrote: I like Strassman. She's really, really good. I loved a lot of the roles she's filled and she's ridiculously versatile. She'll fit the role especially in post-production. Don't worry so much. Think about how many "voices" will be changed from BW to SC2. This is just another.
It's like if you'd replace Harrison Ford with Kevin Costner between the first and second star wars movie -_- Yeah, Kevin Costner is good too, but wouldn't it feel wrong?
Anyway,
Karune regarding the rumored new Kerrigan voice actress: Although I admire Incgamer's indepth reporting- this is one that you'll want to wait for an official announcement from us. With all aspects of the game, we want to make sure the fans get the most epic StarCraft II experience. Choosing voice actors too is no different, especially for such a notable character as the Queen of Blades
On August 14 2009 06:08 404.Nintu wrote: I like Strassman. She's really, really good. I loved a lot of the roles she's filled and she's ridiculously versatile. She'll fit the role especially in post-production. Don't worry so much. Think about how many "voices" will be changed from BW to SC2. This is just another.
It's like if you'd replace Harrison Ford with Kevin Costner between the first and second star wars movie -_- Yeah, Kevin Costner is good too, but wouldn't it feel wrong?
Karune regarding the rumored new Kerrigan voice actress: Although I admire Incgamer's indepth reporting- this is one that you'll want to wait for an official announcement from us. With all aspects of the game, we want to make sure the fans get the most epic StarCraft II experience. Choosing voice actors too is no different, especially for such a notable character as the Queen of Blades
On August 13 2009 03:02 n00bonicPlague wrote: SC:Legacy made a comparison video with the original first and the new one second. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIbowZqsB-4
Wow, new one is terrible. Exactly like most other cartoon voice actors who are overdramatic and squeeky. Old one sounded really calm and collected, and far more mature than this young girl.
On August 14 2009 06:08 404.Nintu wrote: I like Strassman. She's really, really good. I loved a lot of the roles she's filled and she's ridiculously versatile. She'll fit the role especially in post-production. Don't worry so much. Think about how many "voices" will be changed from BW to SC2. This is just another.
It's like if you'd replace Harrison Ford with Kevin Costner between the first and second star wars movie -_- Yeah, Kevin Costner is good too, but wouldn't it feel wrong?
Anyway,
Karune regarding the rumored new Kerrigan voice actress: Although I admire Incgamer's indepth reporting- this is one that you'll want to wait for an official announcement from us. With all aspects of the game, we want to make sure the fans get the most epic StarCraft II experience. Choosing voice actors too is no different, especially for such a notable character as the Queen of Blades
On August 14 2009 06:08 404.Nintu wrote: I like Strassman. She's really, really good. I loved a lot of the roles she's filled and she's ridiculously versatile. She'll fit the role especially in post-production. Don't worry so much. Think about how many "voices" will be changed from BW to SC2. This is just another.
It's like if you'd replace Harrison Ford with Kevin Costner between the first and second star wars movie -_- Yeah, Kevin Costner is good too, but wouldn't it feel wrong?
Anyway,
Karune regarding the rumored new Kerrigan voice actress: Although I admire Incgamer's indepth reporting- this is one that you'll want to wait for an official announcement from us. With all aspects of the game, we want to make sure the fans get the most epic StarCraft II experience. Choosing voice actors too is no different, especially for such a notable character as the Queen of Blades
Karune would had most likely denied it if it wasn't true.
Well, it could be that she'll voice some other characters.
Still, I think he would had denied it if that was the case, but Blizzcon is only a week away so stupid to speculate too much about it. We will have the answer soon enough.
FrozenArbiter wrote: Who was it in the zerg reveal then? I can barely remember it... It was the whole "We have evolved" etc thing right?
From what I remember (I think from last Blizzcon), it was a member of the Blizzard cinematic team voicing a Zerg Queen...not Kerrigan, and definitely not Glynnis.
At this point, though, there's no point speculating on the new Kerrigan voice; we'll likely know soon enough anyway...
looking at her resume im sure she'll do a fine job. blizz wouldnt officially announce her as the voice actor unless they were sure about it. lets save our judgments for when the game actually comes out..
On August 14 2009 06:08 404.Nintu wrote: I like Strassman. She's really, really good. I loved a lot of the roles she's filled and she's ridiculously versatile. She'll fit the role especially in post-production. Don't worry so much. Think about how many "voices" will be changed from BW to SC2. This is just another.
It's like if you'd replace Harrison Ford with Kevin Costner between the first and second star wars movie -_- Yeah, Kevin Costner is good too, but wouldn't it feel wrong?
Karune regarding the rumored new Kerrigan voice actress: Although I admire Incgamer's indepth reporting- this is one that you'll want to wait for an official announcement from us. With all aspects of the game, we want to make sure the fans get the most epic StarCraft II experience. Choosing voice actors too is no different, especially for such a notable character as the Queen of Blades
On August 14 2009 06:08 404.Nintu wrote: I like Strassman. She's really, really good. I loved a lot of the roles she's filled and she's ridiculously versatile. She'll fit the role especially in post-production. Don't worry so much. Think about how many "voices" will be changed from BW to SC2. This is just another.
It's like if you'd replace Harrison Ford with Kevin Costner between the first and second star wars movie -_- Yeah, Kevin Costner is good too, but wouldn't it feel wrong?
Anyway,
Karune regarding the rumored new Kerrigan voice actress: Although I admire Incgamer's indepth reporting- this is one that you'll want to wait for an official announcement from us. With all aspects of the game, we want to make sure the fans get the most epic StarCraft II experience. Choosing voice actors too is no different, especially for such a notable character as the Queen of Blades
I might be an asshole, but most sounds I have heard I do not like. When Marines die, they die like pussies and not that cool as in SC1. Same goes for Zealots etc, etc. When it comes to soundeffects and voices SC1>SC2.
But I am getting offtopic a bit, I don't mind the voice of this Kerrigan.
On August 18 2009 02:35 Boertie wrote: I might be an asshole, but most sounds I have heard I do not like. When Marines die, they die like pussies and not that cool as in SC1. Same goes for Zealots etc, etc. When it comes to soundeffects and voices SC1>SC2.
But I am getting offtopic a bit, I don't mind the voice of this Kerrigan.
On August 18 2009 02:35 Boertie wrote: I might be an asshole, but most sounds I have heard I do not like. When Marines die, they die like pussies and not that cool as in SC1. Same goes for Zealots etc, etc. When it comes to soundeffects and voices SC1>SC2.
But I am getting offtopic a bit, I don't mind the voice of this Kerrigan.
Raynor's voice is perfect though.
Kerrigan's new voice is... not very zergish.
I think they recasted raynor... lol
as for kerry hopefully some sound effects will spice things up
even if she's not that good, we're going to buy this game anyway and eventually get used to the new voice/be unaware of it... but i hope the rumors are wrong.
On August 18 2009 03:36 Arikuna wrote: even if she's not that good, we're going to buy this game anyway and eventually get used to the new voice/be unaware of it... but i hope the rumors are wrong.
Well this is it... they changed the Kerrigan VA for the Zeratul/Kerrigan cinematic...
Sounds so bad =/ Why the fuck haven't they rehired the old VA! Continuity Blizzard, continuity! Especially when the original material was good to start with.
Edit : Also, that's with all the audio tinkering to match an infested Kerrigan. Still sounds like a B actor that tries to hard. Glynnis plz!
Yes, as much as I want to say she doesnt, I can't. She sounds fine.
But then you go back and listen to the one done by Talken... It just feels more "right" - I don't understand why they wouldn't play to these nostalgic feelings. The quality is pretty much the same.
On August 18 2009 02:35 Boertie wrote: I might be an asshole, but most sounds I have heard I do not like. When Marines die, they die like pussies and not that cool as in SC1. Same goes for Zealots etc, etc. When it comes to soundeffects and voices SC1>SC2.
But I am getting offtopic a bit, I don't mind the voice of this Kerrigan.
Raynor's voice is perfect though.
Kerrigan's new voice is... not very zergish.
I think they recasted raynor... lol
as for kerry hopefully some sound effects will spice things up
That's interesting because one year ago, some news came out that Raynor's original actor would be replaced, and that the old Kerrigan voice would actually return. Now it's the exact opposite that's happening, as I'm fairly sure Robert Clotworthy is doing Raynor's voice again.
On August 18 2009 04:17 Shade692003 wrote: Sounds so bad =/ Why the fuck haven't they rehired the old VA! Continuity Blizzard, continuity! Especially when the original material was good to start with.
For the same reason they recasted the whole crew of Futurama : Money.
Video game industry has grown quite a bit in 10 years, and voice acting in video games is now a hell lot more profitable than it was back in 1998, I'm sure the original SC actors are the first to know it. We can safely assume this would be Blizzard's main problem with taking the old actors again.
Video game industry has grown quite a bit in 10 years, and voice acting in video games is now a hell lot more profitable than it was back in 1998, I'm sure the original SC actors are the first to know it. We can safely assume this would be Blizzard's main problem with taking the old actors again.
Yeah I bet that's the issue. I'd wager that the Jim Raynor VA actually negociated really hard to get his role back. The Jim Raynor voice looked like it would have stuck till retail, and suddenly without warning the old VA is back.
On August 18 2009 02:35 Boertie wrote: I might be an asshole, but most sounds I have heard I do not like. When Marines die, they die like pussies and not that cool as in SC1. Same goes for Zealots etc, etc. When it comes to soundeffects and voices SC1>SC2.
But I am getting offtopic a bit, I don't mind the voice of this Kerrigan.
Raynor's voice is perfect though.
Kerrigan's new voice is... not very zergish.
I think they recasted raynor... lol
as for kerry hopefully some sound effects will spice things up
That's interesting because one year ago, some news came out that Raynor's original actor would be replaced, and that the old Kerrigan voice would actually return. Now it's the exact opposite that's happening, as I'm fairly sure Robert Clotworthy is doing Raynor's voice again.
On August 18 2009 04:17 Shade692003 wrote: Sounds so bad =/ Why the fuck haven't they rehired the old VA! Continuity Blizzard, continuity! Especially when the original material was good to start with.
For the same reason they recasted the whole crew of Futurama : Money.
Video game industry has grown quite a bit in 10 years, and voice acting in video games is now a hell lot more profitable than it was back in 1998, I'm sure the original SC actors are the first to know it. We can safely assume this would be Blizzard's main problem with taking the old actors again.
... Wow, the Futurama part... I don't think I could watch that. I really like Futurama, but I don't think I'd be able to sit through even one episode with if they changed the voice actors :s
Actually the new voice isn't that bad... if i try to let go of the nostalgia bias. I mean she does lack the I'M THE MOTHER FUCKING QUEEN BITCH voice but its not too bad. like she would be 8/10 for me.
well, not as good as the old one, but you can't really complain >.>
Are you kidding, "She also speaks fluent French and uses a French accent for French characters"? Kerrigan's not French (I was originally going to use a stronger comment but that probably would've offended some people and got me banned).
I get the feeling that this decision is motivated by money as well. Blizzard is obviously aware that the fans want the original back, and there's really no reason not to bring her back as far as quality goes. While the new VA is talented, she doesn't completely overshadow Glynnis. When you take into account the nostalgia and experience factor, the odds are stacked in the original VA's favor.
Money is the only real conclusion I can gather from this. Maybe Glynnis was either asking for too much, or Blizzard didn't want to give too much. Hopefully BlizzCon will shed light on the issue.
well, not as good as the old one, but you can't really complain >.>
Are you kidding, "She also speaks fluent French and uses a French accent for French characters"? Kerrigan's not French (I was originally going to use a stronger comment but that probably would've offended some people and got me banned).
Huh... so what are you complaning about exactly? That she's able to voice french characters? By all means, explain yourself and let the anger out, I'd love to know how that can be a problem.
On August 18 2009 15:29 Spawkuring wrote: I get the feeling that this decision is motivated by money as well. Blizzard is obviously aware that the fans want the original back, and there's really no reason not to bring her back as far as quality goes. While the new VA is talented, she doesn't completely overshadow Glynnis. When you take into account the nostalgia and experience factor, the odds are stacked in the original VA's favor.
Money is the only real conclusion I can gather from this. Maybe Glynnis was either asking for too much, or Blizzard didn't want to give too much. Hopefully BlizzCon will shed light on the issue.
lol I'm sorry but blizzard doesn't have to worry about money. I bet she either didn't want to do it, or maybe blizzard just doesn't think she would be good now. Who knows but I can almost guarantee its not because of money related.
On August 18 2009 15:47 Gnaix wrote: Let's just say that the French have a history of losing at war and leave it at that before this gets too out of hand.
How does it have anything to do with the voice actress, her ability to impersonate Kerrigan, or anything at all?
On August 18 2009 15:47 Gnaix wrote: Let's just say that the French have a history of losing at war and leave it at that before this gets too out of hand.
Also have a history of conquering half of europe and contributing greatly to the american revolution...
The old Kerrigan was more calm and sound much more intellectual and tactical. The new one sound like she is one of those people who is new at this whole 'taking over the universe' thing and is not confident enough to actually handle the job. But seriously, who wouldn't change their voice if they spend 4 years underground in a planet far, far away?
On August 18 2009 15:47 Gnaix wrote: Let's just say that the French have a history of losing at war and leave it at that before this gets too out of hand.
Also have a history of conquering half of europe and contributing greatly to the american revolution...
Pfffff What nation didnt conquer half of europe at one point or another :p
On August 18 2009 15:47 Gnaix wrote: Let's just say that the French have a history of losing at war and leave it at that before this gets too out of hand.
A complete load of rubbish. Throughout history the French have won more battles and wars than any other state.
On August 18 2009 15:29 Spawkuring wrote: I get the feeling that this decision is motivated by money as well. Blizzard is obviously aware that the fans want the original back, and there's really no reason not to bring her back as far as quality goes. While the new VA is talented, she doesn't completely overshadow Glynnis. When you take into account the nostalgia and experience factor, the odds are stacked in the original VA's favor.
Money is the only real conclusion I can gather from this. Maybe Glynnis was either asking for too much, or Blizzard didn't want to give too much. Hopefully BlizzCon will shed light on the issue.
lol I'm sorry but blizzard doesn't have to worry about money. I bet she either didn't want to do it, or maybe blizzard just doesn't think she would be good now. Who knows but I can almost guarantee its not because of money related.
Multi-billion dollar companies are some of the greediest fuckers in the world. Having money doesn't make you less greedy.
That said, I really think they should stick with the original Voice Actress. She played the part so well and is so iconic that it's an insult to replace her.
The new is as bad as it seemed originally but the Glynnis just feels right. Listen to them both with your eyes closed and give it a good listen.
The new chick's Glynnis impression is okay. But I don't want "okay." I want Glynnis. I want to bust a nut every time Kerrigan speaks. Doesn't look like that's going to happen.
wth, in her resume there's "Final fantasy 7 - Video game - Various characters" ... ?? Was there any voice acting in FF7? If my memory serves me right then no, there wasn't.
well, not as good as the old one, but you can't really complain >.>
Are you kidding, "She also speaks fluent French and uses a French accent for French characters"? Kerrigan's not French (I was originally going to use a stronger comment but that probably would've offended some people and got me banned).
Huh... so what are you complaning about exactly? That she's able to voice french characters? By all means, explain yourself and let the anger out, I'd love to know how that can be a problem.
haha you're such a sad human being Gnaix. Although I find Americans with a completely unreasonable hate for France quite hilarious. Go enjoy your freedom fries, lol
On August 22 2009 13:12 FrozenArbiter wrote: Just a heads up, they said they'd make a bunch of voice actor announcements tomorrow... so I guess we'll know for sure by then.
What? Where? How? I listened to pretty much all of Blizzcon and I haven't heard that.
Yeah they were talking to Andy Chambers. Funny how different he looks now from his old days at Games Workshop... Not "bad different" just, different =]
She's good as what. edit: Mad variety, although I'm not sure I like the almost....childish? edge she put into kerrigans voice. However, she seems to be quite gifted, and I'm confident that with the heavy mechanizing that the original underwent she could sound even better.
On August 23 2009 06:45 FrozenArbiter wrote: ....... Tricia Helfer? Really? -_-
I dunno, maybe I dislike her because I've only seen her play annoying characters --;
Man, they keep changing the voice actress... why haven't they gone back to Glynnis? Why do they want to change her VA so much? i just can't understand...
On August 23 2009 06:45 FrozenArbiter wrote: ....... Tricia Helfer? Really? -_-
I dunno, maybe I dislike her because I've only seen her play annoying characters --;
Man, they keep changing the voice actress... why haven't they gone back to Glynnis? Why do they want to change her VA so much? i just can't understand...
edit: NO ONE IN THE QA ASKED ABOUT GLYNNIS @_@
1) I think that would be kind of rude to the new voice actor 2) I think everyone thought that she was hot so... (though Glynnis looks pretty good too)
Well, she'd been on the project for over a year so.
I like her voice and I like how she's a total noob and is getting into this. It's somehow merging the community even more with reality and well... Not sure where I wanna go with this - guess it's mostly just a feeling .
On August 23 2009 06:45 FrozenArbiter wrote: ....... Tricia Helfer? Really? -_-
I dunno, maybe I dislike her because I've only seen her play annoying characters --;
Man, they keep changing the voice actress... why haven't they gone back to Glynnis? Why do they want to change her VA so much? i just can't understand...
edit: NO ONE IN THE QA ASKED ABOUT GLYNNIS @_@
1) I think that would be kind of rude to the new voice actor 2) I think everyone thought that she was hot so... (though Glynnis looks pretty good too)
I don't see how it's rude, the issue is completely irrelevant to the current actor.
Ok after playing at blizzcon, I gotta say that her overacted ''Mine more mineraaaaals'' is officially the most annoying sound in the game, too bad we're gonna hear it every minute.
On August 24 2009 10:37 lepape wrote: Ok after playing beta, I gotta say that her overacted ''Mine more mineraaaaals'' is officially the most annoying sound in the game, too bad we're gonna hear it every minute.
lol this whole not picking glynnis thing would be funny if it wasnt so depressing....
Ill be the first to say it Who thinks Metzen is just trying to get some Battlestar Galaction?
On August 24 2009 10:37 lepape wrote: Ok after playing at blizzcon, I gotta say that her overacted ''Mine more mineraaaaals'' is officially the most annoying sound in the game, too bad we're gonna hear it every minute.
On August 24 2009 10:37 lepape wrote: Ok after playing beta, I gotta say that her overacted ''Mine more mineraaaaals'' is officially the most annoying sound in the game, too bad we're gonna hear it every minute.
lol this whole not picking glynnis thing would be funny if it wasnt so depressing....
Ill be the first to say it Who thinks Metzen is just trying to get some Battlestar Galaction?
Other than for this specific sound, I didnt mind her voice. It's hard to compare with the previous actress since I don't remember her voice too much and she never said anything in multiplayer in SC1, but I think that this Kerrigan ''mine more minerals'' is way more annoying than the old ''Spawn more overlords'' could have ever been.
And Metzen, I always thought the guy was really cool and he did so much for Blizzard, it was such a disapointment to find out he seems like a douche with a gigantic ego. It was still great when he did an impression of the SC1 voices. And yeah, it was really funny seeing him try to impress Tricia on the panel.
On August 24 2009 10:37 lepape wrote: Ok after playing beta, I gotta say that her overacted ''Mine more mineraaaaals'' is officially the most annoying sound in the game, too bad we're gonna hear it every minute.
lol this whole not picking glynnis thing would be funny if it wasnt so depressing....
Ill be the first to say it Who thinks Metzen is just trying to get some Battlestar Galaction?
And Metzen, I always thought the guy was really cool and he did so much for Blizzard, it was such a disapointment to find out he seems like a douche with a gigantic ego. It was still great when he did an impression of the SC1 voices. And yeah, it was really funny seeing him try to impress Tricia on the panel.
Clearly you have never met Chris Metzen before. He is pretty awesome.
On August 24 2009 12:23 lepape wrote: And Metzen, I always thought the guy was really cool and he did so much for Blizzard, it was such a disapointment to find out he seems like a douche with a gigantic ego. It was still great when he did an impression of the SC1 voices. And yeah, it was really funny seeing him try to impress Tricia on the panel.
Wtf dude, he's probably the only Blizzard guy who looks genuinely passionate and knows how to express that passion to the audience without fakeness others have (*cough* Dustin *cough*).
On August 24 2009 12:23 lepape wrote: And Metzen, I always thought the guy was really cool and he did so much for Blizzard, it was such a disapointment to find out he seems like a douche with a gigantic ego. It was still great when he did an impression of the SC1 voices. And yeah, it was really funny seeing him try to impress Tricia on the panel.
Wtf dude, he's probably the only Blizzard guy who looks genuinely passionate and knows how to express that passion to the audience without fakeness others have (*cough* Dustin *cough*).
And you have clearly not met Dustin. He is also awesome.
This panel was awesome. They all seem really good especially Andrea Romano the director. My only slight worry is over Tricia Helfer since she's new to voice acting. Perhaps they've only chosen her because she's a big name. She probably has a tonne of battlestar fans Blizzard are hoping will buy SC2. This idea is probably a load of rubbish, she's obviously very talented Im sure she'll be great but I can't help being synical.
I would also like to say that it seems quite clear to me why they dropped Glynnis. According to imdb http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0848087/ she hasn't done any voice acting work for 9 years. Moreover its 11 years since the last time she did SC. Someone who comes back after over 10 years out won't be able to offer the same quality of other actresses doing voices on a day to day basis. Im certain Blizzard wouldn't have dropped her unless they had a decent reason. They would have been very aware of the controversy it would cause.
Anyway I will reserve final judgement until the game is out but my expectations are high.
I don't know how I feel about this, she seems good but her Kerrigan (the last part of the MP3 below) seems... I don't know, less menacing? Maybe it's just a natural prejudice against anything that isn't the original actress.
EDIT: She's obviously very good, I think it's mostly just nostalgia making me feel weird about it.
Nice edit. After watching the actors panel I completely agree that all the actors and especially the director are and will continue doing a great job for the single player campaign.
It might spoil the campaign... so your own risk here + Show Spoiler +
"The story follows the events happened in "StarCraft: Brood War". There is a new threat caused by an ex-terran Samir Duran. The remains of the Terran forces must gather and ally the Protoss against the infected Zerg army. Another plot line follows Jim Raynor, a marshal, who has to confront the Zerg queen - Kerrigan, with the help of the dark templar Zeratul. Yet, another hero from the past is about to revive for the second time.. The final battle of good and evil is about to take place.."
I guess Fenix will be back? because he was a zealot once, Died, and became the dragon. Died. and which unit is next Immortal (maybe that is where the name is based on)?? :o
On August 25 2009 05:05 Kyuki wrote: Why the fuck would anyone stomp on Chris Metzen? He's surely one of the biggest reasons we're even getting these awesome games they're producing.
Great talent with a big ego, I'm sure you've already seen this trait with other artists. With infinite respect for his work, I can't help but wonder how his head can fit through the door when I watch him talk.
On August 25 2009 05:05 Kyuki wrote: Why the fuck would anyone stomp on Chris Metzen? He's surely one of the biggest reasons we're even getting these awesome games they're producing.
Great talent with a big ego, I'm sure you've already seen this trait with other artists. With infinite respect for his work, I can't help but wonder how his head can fit through the door when I watch him talk.
I think it's just your imagination, because I don't see the whole "big ego" thing with Metzen. Nothing wrong with being passionate and proud of your work.
On August 24 2009 10:37 lepape wrote: Ok after playing beta, I gotta say that her overacted ''Mine more mineraaaaals'' is officially the most annoying sound in the game, too bad we're gonna hear it every minute.
lol this whole not picking glynnis thing would be funny if it wasnt so depressing....
Ill be the first to say it Who thinks Metzen is just trying to get some Battlestar Galaction?
Other than for this specific sound, I didnt mind her voice. It's hard to compare with the previous actress since I don't remember her voice too much and she never said anything in multiplayer in SC1, but I think that this Kerrigan ''mine more minerals'' is way more annoying than the old ''Spawn more overlords'' could have ever been.
And Metzen, I always thought the guy was really cool and he did so much for Blizzard, it was such a disapointment to find out he seems like a douche with a gigantic ego. It was still great when he did an impression of the SC1 voices. And yeah, it was really funny seeing him try to impress Tricia on the panel.
I don't think he was just doing impressions....
And he seemed really cool I'll agree with one of the other posts above mine he really seemed to care about the story of Starcraft.
On August 25 2009 05:05 Kyuki wrote: Why the fuck would anyone stomp on Chris Metzen? He's surely one of the biggest reasons we're even getting these awesome games they're producing.
Great talent with a big ego, I'm sure you've already seen this trait with other artists. With infinite respect for his work, I can't help but wonder how his head can fit through the door when I watch him talk.
I cant even see/sense this big ego thing you're on about, but regardless - if I did I wouldnt care. What's wrong with having a big ego if you're not hurting anyone? I sense jealousy. I hate jealousy.
You can however see on the way he's talking that he has so much to say and so much he want to express that it just cant fit. I'm quite certain that his IQ is extremly high. (sidenote).
Metzen is a pretty cool guy and he's definitely passionate about his games, but it's pretty evident that he's got quite an ego and that he makes stuff up as he goes along. He's said several times in his interviews things like the battles Fenix and Zeratul engaged in together were not fleshed out in the lore at all, it was just something he decided to include in passing, never expecting to elaborate. He's done this a lot in Warcraft lore also, as well as misremembering a lot of events that took place in the games or the stories. Prime example of this: the Draenei race being Eredar who used to be evil but actually were never evil, they were corrupted, and the ones that were corrupted mutated. Pretty much everything lore-related has to go through him, so when he just wants to make something up without any foundation he can do it, regardless of whether it breaks continuity.
On August 25 2009 23:55 Excalibur_Z wrote: Metzen is a pretty cool guy and he's definitely passionate about his games, but it's pretty evident that he's got quite an ego and that he makes stuff up as he goes along. He's said several times in his interviews things like the battles Fenix and Zeratul engaged in together were not fleshed out in the lore at all, it was just something he decided to include in passing, never expecting to elaborate. He's done this a lot in Warcraft lore also, as well as misremembering a lot of events that took place in the games or the stories. Prime example of this: the Draenei race being Eredar who used to be evil but actually were never evil, they were corrupted, and the ones that were corrupted mutated. Pretty much everything lore-related has to go through him, so when he just wants to make something up without any foundation he can do it, regardless of whether it breaks continuity.
He might have a big ego for that, but he openly apologized for that ret-con in WoW
All of this purism is stupid. You guys think the original Kerrigan was good? There's a good reason they didn't bring her back. She was alright, but honestly the worst of the entire cast. Her acting was pretty... meh.
On August 26 2009 03:01 MidKnight wrote: I rofled when he was asked about previous voice acting and did "Battlecruiser Operational". The crowd started cheering like crazy.
i got goosebumps
nostalgia all of the place !
Weird though, when they did the voices nobody knew that starcraft would become one of the best games ever. And now when they returned i belive some of them even still didn't know that. But after telling them about the pro scene. They were probaly like WTF O_O
Not hard to say for the sequel, yes my voice is yours blizzard.
On August 22 2009 00:30 7mk wrote: wth, in her resume there's "Final fantasy 7 - Video game - Various characters" ... ?? Was there any voice acting in FF7? If my memory serves me right then no, there wasn't.
well, not as good as the old one, but you can't really complain >.>
Are you kidding, "She also speaks fluent French and uses a French accent for French characters"? Kerrigan's not French (I was originally going to use a stronger comment but that probably would've offended some people and got me banned).
Huh... so what are you complaning about exactly? That she's able to voice french characters? By all means, explain yourself and let the anger out, I'd love to know how that can be a problem.
haha you're such a sad human being Gnaix. Although I find Americans with a completely unreasonable hate for France quite hilarious. Go enjoy your freedom fries, lol
wtf would we call them "french fries" if they weren't even invented in france? btw, you're not even french (it says your location is germany), so why don't you just keep it to yourself in douche-land.
On August 26 2009 01:50 sudo.era wrote: All of this purism is stupid. You guys think the original Kerrigan was good? There's a good reason they didn't bring her back. She was alright, but honestly the worst of the entire cast. Her acting was pretty... meh.
wtf did blizzard have her do Silvannas Windrunner if she was "the worst of the entire cast"?
On August 22 2009 00:30 7mk wrote: wth, in her resume there's "Final fantasy 7 - Video game - Various characters" ... ?? Was there any voice acting in FF7? If my memory serves me right then no, there wasn't.
On August 18 2009 15:33 lepape wrote:
On August 18 2009 15:21 Gnaix wrote:
On August 12 2009 23:42 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2009 23:38 Nylan wrote: Seems she's got quite a resume, assuming this is the same person.
well, not as good as the old one, but you can't really complain >.>
Are you kidding, "She also speaks fluent French and uses a French accent for French characters"? Kerrigan's not French (I was originally going to use a stronger comment but that probably would've offended some people and got me banned).
Huh... so what are you complaning about exactly? That she's able to voice french characters? By all means, explain yourself and let the anger out, I'd love to know how that can be a problem.
haha you're such a sad human being Gnaix. Although I find Americans with a completely unreasonable hate for France quite hilarious. Go enjoy your freedom fries, lol
wtf would we call them "french fries" if they weren't even invented in france? btw, you're not even french (it says your location is germany), so why don't you just keep it to yourself in douche-land.
Renaming French Fries to Freedom Fries is one of the dumbest things done, in the history of mankind.
You just got unlucky that it was someone from the same country as you who thought it up, could have happened anywhere.
Anyhow, I have no idea if your dislike of france is real or just a joke, but could both of you drop it and move on?
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