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On August 06 2009 16:52 Railz wrote:
There are apparently a lot of people here who don't know the true development style for games in the modern age. As games get more complex, time increases naturally. Blizzard never said it was set in stone and most people knew right away from their lack of beta in early summer, meant beta wouldn't be out till mid-fall. Just the way quarters and cycles work.
Blizzard is its own developer and publisher now as well which means they no longer have pressure from Vivendi to release an early game (cough WC3)
I don't understand this. Yes, games are more complex today than previous, however the tools used to develop are much easier than previously. Following this logic, and pattern, games coming out in 2030 will taken on average 11+ years to develop, imagine 2100!
Face it, SC2 is a RTS. FF14 which is a MMO and being released Q2ish next year by Square-Enix will have been in development for 4-5 years. They just announced it in June at E3. That is how you conduct business. You don't announce a game that is more than a year off. Blizzard screwed the pooch.
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On August 06 2009 18:14 sArite_nite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 18:04 despite wrote:On August 06 2009 17:48 sArite_nite wrote:
Diablo 3 is not as hyped as SC2, Blizzard's MMOs are generally less popular than its RTS games.
Diablo 2 was not MMO and I doubt D3 will be. Also D2 was as popular as SC among my friends maybe even more. Perhaps. But if you look at the trends, Blizzard's main moneymaker has been WoW because of the subscription. Looking at success differently, WC3 and SC have made it much further than WoW in terms of popularity. (I played WoW and it got steadily easier and easier. So I left.) WC3 is boring because of DotA (and also popular because of it) and SC is still the best. I do not see D3 becoming as popular as SC2 unless SC2 turns out to be a blowjob after all the delays and Battle Reports. Diablo does have a very loyal fanbase though. I'll probably play both games. And I don't see how SC2 will sway DotA gamers over, DotA gamers stereotypically suck at RTS and at life (at least in my country they do).
Dota may be boring for you but it's not for others. I actually like games which are easy and that I can play at e decent level without being a progamer. I have played dota and I liked it but that didn't stop me from deleting it because I don't like addictive games.
Wow is also addictive because of the monthly fee. You pay for a month so why not play 16 hours a day to make better use of your money? No thanks, there is no game that I would pay monthly to play and I doubt there will ever be.
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On August 06 2009 17:18 GoSu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 17:10 Eeevil wrote:On August 06 2009 16:37 Plexa wrote:More time to enjoy SC - im happy  This It means at least one more season of SCBW in the full spotlight. Don't worry, SC1 will stay in the full spotlight.
It wont stay in the full spotlight. There will be many changes. In Korea it will take only more time.
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what makes me angry is that I don't need bnet 2.0, give me 1.0 with better latency because all those things which will be better in bnet 2.0 will cost money. in some interview they said that things like ability to create custom tournaments etc will cost money etc.
gief ladder and custom games and that's it.
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On August 06 2009 18:26 despite wrote:
Dota may be boring for you but it's not for others. I actually like games which are easy and that I can play at e decent level without being a progamer. I have played dota and I liked it but that didn't stop me from deleting it because I don't like addictive games.
Wow is also addictive because of the monthly fee. You pay for a month so why not play 16 hours a day to make better use of your money? No thanks, there is no game that I would pay monthly to play and I doubt there will ever be.
I used to love DotA, been playing ever since version 5.2x I think. I still love playing Techies. Yes, I was addicted to WoW, but then it became mindless and a lack of funds made me stop anyway.
DotA simply got too complicated yet mindless. You do the same things every game, expect the same things every game (early leavers are a staple), expect the same bad manners, expect the customary noob comments when you lose.
Starcraft is so much more exciting, the community by far bigger and more well-mannered
Iccup Conversation
Saritenite: "Hi"
Randomguy: "Hi"
Saritenite: "gl hf"
Randomguy: "gogogo gl hf"
- 15 minutes later -
Saritenite: "gg"
Randomguy: "gg"
Randomguy: "very"
And they don't call you a noob even though you lost (admittedly I lose because I always try to nuke after they cheese me)
I'm a low D player, but I get kicks out of playing Starcraft. I don't get kicks out of controlling a single unit that has 4 skills, one of which may be based on a randomly generated number. I get kicks out of making bold statements with my nukes, because I like to. With DotA and BM team members you don't get that kind of feeling.
It's the same thing over and over
-random -> oh melee > Battlefury build > stack str/agi > Lvl 6 ulti > hunt heroes > push > win.
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Was hoping 2009 Christmas, but oh well. More time for me to play my other games!
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I have seen a lot of post claiming that more delay is good because the final product will be better, but let me remind you that more delay doesn't equal to a more quality product.
(and get ready when they announce campaign will have to be played online, and the other money-cow features).
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Great things take time to make. My brother has more luck with sc2. Every once in a wile he asks me when the game is coming and replies with an ok. I check news every day...
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Well, maybe now they will be able to add online viewing of replays and other features to the launch product.
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Oh man, that really is sad news ..
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They have to finish it in early 2010, so we have at least 1 and half your to play it (since world ends in 2012)
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http://www.videogamer.com/news/battle_net_likened_to_xbox_live.html
It seems that Blizzard is trying to be, as they said, 'quite ambitious' to say the least haha.
It's beginning to look like they're trying to create an entire community online. That is to say; it appears they want you to be talking to your 'online buddies' no matter what game your playing (or obviously if your not playing a game at all). And with the previously stated voip support as well it doesn't surprise me that they underestimated how long it'll take to make...
That and i'm guessing that whole 'no lan' affair has probably delayed it a bit. Perhaps they ARE in fact [now] trying to make a system like Steam (i.e. content delivery also..)?
All this really has all the markings of Blizzard treating the 'game' and 'Bnet 2' as separate products... and have been caught with their pants down finding out they have one in beta stage... and the other no where close...
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They should edit the marine in the announcement video to say "hell it's about time....in a few years"
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On August 06 2009 19:42 C3nsuRED_cz wrote:
They have to finish it in early 2010, so we have at least 1 and half your to play it (since world ends in 2012)
ffs i wish you people would just stop vomiting this garbage everywhere and this is what you made your 3rd post?!
/rage
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Although I am quite unhappy at this news I guess I can see where Blizz is coming from. And I have to agree with most people here, this does give us that bit longer with bw and I can climb the iccup ladder for a bit longer :D
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meh ... dissapointing but , cmon now srsly , who didnt expect this ?
i mean , this is Blizzard ffs , they ALWAYS delaying their games . Long Live Starcraft 1 !
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whine all you want, blizzard will take their time making the game the best they can. And when its out you will be happy they delayed it and you will think the game is awsome...
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I hear a lot of talk that blizzard intentionally announced their game prematurely. (To be honest we were clamoring for SC2 pretty loudly before it was announced anyways). Well for you younglings, it was a Korean who hinted that SC2 would be released. Perhaps a news reporter or something. A few weeks to a month later Dustin Browder showed us ten or so units ending with three ghosts getting consumed by lings and then morphing into banelings. It was not at first an intentional announcement. If they're supposed to take 3-4 years to make games, and we caught them in their first year, then so be it.
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On August 06 2009 19:51 NotSupporting wrote:
They should edit the marine in the announcement video to say "hell it's about time....in a few years"
this.
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