And they just HAD to use "terrible terrible damage" at least once.Haha xD
Pretty great game, definetely THE best of all the BRs.

It seems they CAN release these things quite fast if they want to.
It also seems that MAYBE they didn't rehearse it like previously, as I remember Browder making a mistake when Stalkers were chasing roaches and Browder said "Those stalkers are chasing those protoss forces" at about 10:05.
That's good too

DeCoup

Australia1933 Posts

June 19 2009 15:01 GMT

#242

This was a great match! It's good to see that their trying to bring their game up a little more. I'm also glad that their not playing like pro's tho. The less macro they achieve the better everything can be explained by the commentators.

Also, by having smaller armies and playing with a slightly 'scissors, paper, rock' unit countering system like they obviously have been in all the BR's, they allow the commentators to really highlight each unit.

If they were to mass, or even use more types of units in each attack attempting to commentate this to the general public would be a bit complex, or at least less detailed verbally then we are seeing on screen.

Perfect BR IMO.

ZeroCartin

Costa Rica2390 Posts

June 19 2009 15:06 GMT

#243

Wow!

Its really cool to see a completely different type of game of pvz. Not even one HT built, and the opening BO with zeal+nullifiers was really cool to watch. And I really really liked the micro that was going on here. I literally got so excited seeing those baneling explode like 8 zeals, and those collosus being mind controlled. I am now sure this game is gonna rock! I think the zerg player couldve been better, but still, it was an awesome game with some really interesting strategic events.

AWESOME WORK BLIZZARD

Altar

United States577 Posts

June 19 2009 15:10 GMT

#244

This just got me pumped for the actually game, that mind control ability looks like fun.

Lovin

Denmark812 Posts

June 19 2009 15:18 GMT

#245

Lol, it was all out trolling then SLAM: FA said he liked it and everyone was positive and happy :D

Husky

United States3362 Posts

June 19 2009 15:18 GMT

#246

I noticed the Zealots fight kinda funny... they dont do a straight up badass punch to the face anymore

spkim1

Canada286 Posts

June 19 2009 15:19 GMT

#247

Matt Cooper's not playing anymore lol
gg. Finally they make a BR worthwhile to watch. Loved the infestor's mind control and the banelings acting practically like temporary reavers. I can see there's gonna be strategy involving overlords dropping banelings in economies

a little bit disappointed about the absence of mutalisks and hydralisks though.

Would zerg have been able to win if they stuck to old builds? i.e. hydralisks, mutas, and lurks instead of mass lings, roaches, queens and infestors? I think so. First of, phase prism drop action would have been impossible with hydras and mutas roaming around the map. Second, the Phoenix could have been stopped from hunting down overlords with mutas and hydras. Toss would have been forced to go the old way too.

ReCharge

Philippines505 Posts

June 19 2009 15:20 GMT

#248

Damn it, I keep on watching the game, It just so awesome, I'm itching to play the game already, BLIZZARD open beta plz, like 1 month before the actualy release would be nice. ^^

No_eL

Chile1438 Posts

June 19 2009 15:33 GMT

#249

nullifier seems imba, infestors too XD

maybe 3 or 4 years to be a balanced game?

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

June 19 2009 15:33 GMT

#250

To people saying the rock-break was scripted:

At 12:20 you can see him click on a burrowed zergling by the rocks, which is how he knew they were coming from the rocks.

From the BNET forums. I confirmed this, there really is a zergling there - they even click on it.

ZeroCartin

Costa Rica2390 Posts

June 19 2009 15:36 GMT

#251

On June 20 2009 00:33 FrozenArbiter wrote:
To people saying the rock-break was scripted:

Show nested quote +

From the BNET forums. I confirmed this, there really is a zergling there - they even click on it.

Had to quote and edit cuz at first i didnt understand if u were sayin it was scripted or not ;P

KP_CollectoR

United States744 Posts

June 19 2009 15:42 GMT

#252

On June 19 2009 16:48 SearingShadow wrote:
David Kim has won every Battle Report.

DAVID KIM BONJWA?!?!?!?!?!?

Dr.Frost

United States389 Posts

June 19 2009 15:46 GMT

#253

On June 20 2009 00:33 No_eL wrote:
nullifier seems imba, infestors too XD

maybe 3 or 4 years to be a balanced game?

I agree... Infestors didn't seem too imba just because I know if you have detectors you could probably kill them pretty easily. But those walls that the nullifier puts up that early game seems like it could end games so fast.... if a zerg gets a fast expo and has his lings outside and guy runs up 2 zealots and a nullifier and blocks ramp with that prism thing while zealot goes to town on drones.... just seems a lil imba. I like the idea I think the ability itself is cool and not too imabalanced alone but the fact that he casted so many.... Needs a much longer cool down or to require much more energy.

dcttr66

United States555 Posts

June 19 2009 15:48 GMT

#254

heh heh just about done watching it...it's kindof obvious that we got a newb playing an experienced player...which is fine i suppose... at any rate in response to the destructible rock episode...someone talking about hacking someone else talking about overlord...uhmm i think they just had the same idea at almost the same time, which was to break down the rocks and do a sneak attack.

edit: just read above posts...oh yeah a burrowed unit would explain that obviously.

anyway...after watching it and thinking about the nullifiers, i think they're cool but i think the ramps could be a bit bigger.

JohnBall

Brazil1272 Posts

June 19 2009 16:00 GMT

#255

Thanks for uploading the video on youtube!
The match was pretty exciting. And maybe that prism block thing could be balanced if that ability were researched, perhaps requiring some later tech. That way no zealots + nulifier ramp block rush would be possible.

Still disappointed that we didn't see any zerg air. And wtf, why the protoss didn't kill any drones with those flying units? it's like he got them just to show the gravitation pull thing killing the queen and then they just disappear. What happened to trying to kill the enemy's economy?

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

June 19 2009 16:02 GMT

#256

On June 20 2009 01:00 JohnBall wrote:
Thanks for uploading the video on youtube!
The match was pretty exciting. And maybe that prism block thing could be balanced if that ability were researched, perhaps requiring some later tech. That way no zealots + nulifier ramp block rush would be possible.

Still disappointed that we didn't see any zerg air. And wtf, why the protoss didn't kill any drones with those flying units? it's like he got them just to show the gravitation pull thing killing the queen and the, they just disappear. What happened to trying to kill the enemy's economy?

I think it died to the queen when he was busy defending vs the counter attack.

Pape

Serbia419 Posts

June 19 2009 16:02 GMT

#257

David Kim my favorite SC2 player, dominant Terran and Protoss player!

dcttr66

United States555 Posts

June 19 2009 16:03 GMT

#258

one other thing that i noticed is some people commenting on not seeing a swarm of zerg...as i said he wasn't an experienced player, if he had been, he would've realized that queens are not such a great attack unit...and he would've kept them at the hatcheries to make more drones. as it was his drone count was really low.

all that being said, i think it's safe to say that david kim has probably gone easy on all of his opponents so far.

Husky

United States3362 Posts

June 19 2009 16:04 GMT

#259

This is definitely a news worthy post imo

empathe

United States63 Posts

June 19 2009 16:07 GMT

#260

On June 20 2009 00:33 FrozenArbiter wrote:
People saying the rock-break was scripted:

Show nested quote +

From the BNET forums. I confirmed this, there really is a zergling there - they even click on it.

Don't think this means scripted, the observer for this game will have been clicking through a replay, not a live game. It was most likely just the cue for Dustin and Matt to begin talking about and setting up the eventual baneling surprise.