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Waxangel
United States33466 Posts
Even if it's not a "big" tournament, I feel like having 2+ casters makes them mutually lock-in and take things a bit more seriously. The work solo-streamers do in the SC2 scene is absolutely vital, but you do definitely feel the fatigue/jadedness when they've been doing the solo stream for too many hours. | ||
GTR
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Yrr
Germany804 Posts
Good thing you mentioned people speaking.  | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3426 Posts
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jodljodl
175 Posts
3 casters with no knowledge of the game they cast will almost certainly make the cast less enjoyable for me compared to a one-man-cast with an knowledgeable caster. Even if the casting skill for the trio is superior to the solo person. For example: I would take Pig, Zombiegrub, Winter, Lowko, State, Artosis, Harstem, Lambo and probably any progamer solo casting over State and Tasteless any day. With all due respect to Tasteless I feel like his knowledge of the current state of sc2 is barely existing. This makes his participation in any sc2(!) cast less enjoyable to me. Totally different story for bw of course. On the other hand though I love the casting archon in its prime decade :>. I didn't want to miss a GSL cast just because of them. Not only but also  So i guess I can summarize, not the number of casters is deciding if I enjoy a cast but the game knowledge and casting skill of each participating caster. And of course just because someone is an amazing solo caster doesn't make him/her an amazing duo/trio... caster. edit: I don't wanna shit over Tasteless here. I only meant him as an example. He right away popped into mind since I was watching the GSL cast yesterday. And I like State and Tasteless a lot. But not their sc2(!) duo-casting. Probably I dislike it more than other comparable duos. Probably because I subconsciously measure him/them against Tastosis. Which to be fair is not fair | ||
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oliverjames123
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oliverjames123
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Ciaus237
South Africa286 Posts
I think we are lucky to have many great casters who can do solo content and make it enjoyable, but there are only a few people I can listen to do solo content for hours on end (shoutout to Wardiii for this, he is goated). | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44976 Posts
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Kitai
United States876 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1227 Posts
That being said: When I was still a caster for WC3, I usually prefered to cast solo. Might just have been the a problem with the time, Skype/Teamspeak having delays etc. but I did not cast with many that I truely clicked with. Though I probably had some of my best shoutcasts with the partners I actually had amazing syngery with | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5518 Posts
If I am better tnan you at the game, get the hell off the stream. | ||
afreecaTV.Char
United States337 Posts
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DavidHennry
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Ciaus237
South Africa286 Posts
On May 09 2025 13:59 DavidHennry wrote: I was watching a stream the other day and it really hit me how much smoother things feel with two casters instead of just one. The energy just flows better when there’s someone to bounce ideas and reactions off — even if it's not a huge tournament. That said, major respect to solo casters who hold it down for hours, especially in SC2. Wardiii and Winter do a great job of keeping it engaging on their own. On a side note, I’ve gotten into working on a beaded bag from Tillie Beads while watching streams lately — surprisingly relaxing combo. Anyone else do something with their hands while watching casts? Definitely makes the downtime between games more fun. ![[image loading]](https://www.verblio.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Screen-Shot-2023-02-10-at-1.57.09-PM.png) | ||
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Blitzball04
191 Posts
But I’ll watch any games being casted by Pig and Rotti. They are literally the best in the business. Their voice really engages with the audience and knows when to hype up during each game Wardi is the best for keeping the sc2 scene alive | ||
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Galacsia
Chile162 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25946 Posts
The colour, the anchor and the specialist. The colour is there for vibes and banter when there’s downtime, Tasteless would be a pretty obvious example of that. The anchor is your kinda mainstay caster, can do some banter, but knows quite a lot about the game/scene to sorta carry things that way and be a bridge. Here you’ve an Artosis, a Rotterdam etc Your specialist is a very high level pro, they’ll have that extra level of depth and knowledge across most matchups, but especially that of their race. They can still banter if they’re good at that, but you want them for the real granular detail and understanding they can bring, think Grubby or Idra when they did some casting, or a Harstem or a Lambo these days. If it’s all in sync, it’s great. If the 3 roles pop in and out at appropriate times to bring what they bring, massive fan of that setup. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
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SpaNiarD
Spain351 Posts
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Pietro1906
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Remove those two from the equation however, and my opinion would probably change. Most people who enjoy doing some casting do benefit from having someone to go back-and-forth with. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19295 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6989 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7815 Posts
I moderately prefer solo casting. Tastleless at the GOMTV Invitational... KCM solo casts... Nyoken solo... even old casters like Diggity (?)... I feel like solo casting forces the caster to express their personality more and it leads to funnier casts most of the time. 2 casters is fine too of course. | ||
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Piste
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matju
Poland5 Posts
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Drahkn
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CicadaSC
United States1814 Posts
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johnnyh123
124 Posts
On June 29 2025 05:28 Drahkn wrote: We have solved this question years ago, 2 casters is the superior number, 1 shout caster and 1 expert. While we have a few casters who are capable of delivering amazing solo casts , like Wardi or Zombiegrub the over all preference has always been 2 casters, while I understand some people might prefer solo, they are in such minority that we can't really cater to them Have to agree with you on this one, 2 caster setup is the perfect setup - 1 hype caster and 1 expert analyst (e.g., Tastosis). There are places for solo casters, but not because it's better, it's because of resource constraints. So they work at minor tournaments, minor online cups, or just random cool games from ladders. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9241 Posts
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lestye
United States4182 Posts
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goody153
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It's pretty much the same for every esports so far as I've experienced | ||
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Pentarp
224 Posts
On May 09 2025 08:19 jimminy_kriket wrote: I don't care how many casters there are. Solo casts are fine by me, as are group casts. All I care about is if the person casting is knowledgeable and skilled at the game. If I am better tnan you at the game, get the hell off the stream. Terrible elitist attitude that pushed aside charismatic casters in favour of washed pros. No thanks. edit: just to be clear, i enjoy pro insights. but that can be post-game analysis, or as a co-caster only. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1600 Posts
Duo's seem to be the best as it allows for brains to think before speaking and a bit of back and forth in the conversation helps drive both to make more complete thoughts. Many though can do well off solos. And I've hear tri-casts that have gone smoothly. Honestly they should have some sort of hand signals to each other for taking space if they struggle with it, but sometimes even the competitiveness of talking over each other can be good. | ||
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Pentarp
224 Posts
On June 29 2025 06:52 CicadaSC wrote: I am gonna go ahead and say 3. Too many times now I see both casters enter "analysis mode" and it almost seems like no tonal shift in voice while a fight is happening they are just trying to predict and give their opinions on things, which is fine, but you also need a play by play/hype caster imo. With 3 casters I think it's more likely someone steps in to fill that role. This is what happens when the casters are too invested in proving themselves to a small but vocal minority of sweaty SC2 players who think they're better than casters because they're ranked higher on ladder. As the scene shrinks, it will get worse, unfortunately. As a nerd I say this, fuck the toxic nerds. Play by play is so entertaining. It's how people in the third world "watch" football or cricket games on fucking radio. It's like a music video on MTV or BET: audio + visual entertainment. A analysis session between matches would be great for those who want to advance their game knowledge. Or at-least keep analysis to moments of lull between major engagements. But imo, even in "lulls", there's so much going on that casters can do "play by play" on the macro and strategic choices made by two players professionals playing in the hundreds of APM. TLDR: Most casters in major sports are not the best athletes themselves - and they don't have to be. They are the best at the sport of casting. | ||
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Mamun
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CicadaSC
United States1814 Posts
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Agh
United States1006 Posts
I think two is ideal just by the nature that it keeps flow going plus naturally blocks tangents and over focus. For me personally I'd always lean towards players or at least very high knowledge and understanding, even if they struggle in the articulation department. | ||
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