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CicadaSC
United States1455 Posts
For me, it's sniper. | ||
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LaughNgamezSOOP
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ZombieGrub
United States692 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1102 Posts
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CicadaSC
United States1455 Posts
On February 12 2025 10:05 Balnazza wrote: So many tbh...First, Sacsri, Jjkaji, MorroW... Sacrsri will live on I think just because he plays SC1 now and artosis and tasteless informs everyone 😂 | ||
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Moonerz
United States442 Posts
On February 12 2025 09:32 ZombieGrub wrote: Roro Don't think he will be forgotten if for no other reason than being a FPL terrorist  | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1597 Posts
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Glorfindelio
193 Posts
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SiegfriedSC
9 Posts
On February 12 2025 09:17 LaughNgamezSOOP wrote: PigBaby, but this question is ironic As long I am alive PigBaby will never be forgotten | ||
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RenSC2
United States1047 Posts
ByuN Cure Dear DongRaeGu Fruitdealer GuMiho Jjakji Polt RorO Seed Sniper sOs Soulkey Seed stands out to me. I didn't even know what race he played. Everyone else I at least have some vague memory of although Dear is also pretty unmemorable to me, but I could at least say that he was a Protoss. | ||
Waxangel
United States33192 Posts
I raise you a Sting. | ||
Mizenhauer
United States1804 Posts
On February 12 2025 16:57 Waxangel wrote: This really is dudes at the bar naming 90's baseball players. I raise you a Sting. Let's go with one only Finnish fans will remember, Naama. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7098 Posts
On February 12 2025 22:11 Mizenhauer wrote: Let's go with one only Finnish fans will remember, Naama. Wow rude. I would raise the IEM Season V WC champion, Ace. | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
On February 12 2025 13:27 Glorfindelio wrote: My vote's gotta go to Jjkaji the LEGEND Man I remember his last Code S, there was some hype around him because he won 2 maps vs Maru in the ro32. Hope he's doing well in life | ||
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shockaslim
United States1104 Posts
On February 12 2025 14:52 RenSC2 wrote: Not all premier tournaments, but for GSL only we have 31 different winners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_StarCraft_II_League . Everyone with at least 2 wins seems pretty memorable to me, so people that have won 1 only, the list is: ByuN Cure Dear DongRaeGu Fruitdealer GuMiho Jjakji Polt RorO Seed Sniper sOs Soulkey Seed stands out to me. I didn't even know what race he played. Everyone else I at least have some vague memory of although Dear is also pretty unmemorable to me, but I could at least say that he was a Protoss. Man, ByuN losing that series had me feeling some type of way in the Ro4. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1102 Posts
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sertas
Sweden879 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24380 Posts
On February 12 2025 16:57 Waxangel wrote: This really is dudes at the bar naming 90's baseball players. I raise you a Sting. Personally biased but this is the best answer for me as he’s the only one mentioned so far that I absolutely did forget to the degree I had to Liquipedia him. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24380 Posts
On February 13 2025 04:07 Balnazza wrote: Now that I think about it: For me, the most forgettable champion in a Premier event ever is...Heromarine. Because I'm sure most people don't realize that Big Gabe never won a Premier event, never even was in the finals of one. You would think the guy that was at times the "best of the rest" would have at some point sneaked past Serral, Reynor and Clem...but no, he did not ._. I genuinely blame casters for that one. They’d hype ‘Big Gabe’ up incessantly, way more than players like Showtime or Elazer who have won at least one. Nerds like me knew it obviously, but I’m probably not super representative given I can (roughly) remember the tournament and timespan, or sometimes finals opponent of most of the names mentioned here. For someone with slightly more of a life, one player is hyped to shit and others aren’t, the natural assumption is that guy’s the better player/had the better career. I don’t even dislike Heromarine at all, but man it consistently annoyed the piss outta me. Pretty much the only caster bashing I’ve ever done was solely around that haha | ||
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Mizenhauer
United States1804 Posts
On February 13 2025 04:19 sertas wrote: I never even heard of RorO and I watched a ton of sc2, how did I miss him completely, so for me since i've heard about all other players mentioned but never this guy, he's for me the most unknown RorO vs Symbol is probably the height of absurdity in StarCraft II. I can't help but cackle watching six minutes of brood lord vs brood lord goodness. He was also mentioned in an article that came out two weeks ago  | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16642 Posts
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dysenterymd
1177 Posts
On February 13 2025 06:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Did Naniwa win a premier event? He won an MLG that's a liquipedia premier (Dallas). COnsidering the only Koreans in it were Moonan and Select, whether it should be considered a premier is another question. | ||
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catplanetcatplanet
3829 Posts
Looking at the list of premier events, the only other players I didn't remember as having been champions were uThermal and Ret  | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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CicadaSC
United States1455 Posts
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2196 Posts
My vote is going to be  AcE | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4492 Posts
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bela.mervado
Hungary373 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On February 12 2025 22:20 Luolis wrote: Wow rude. I would raise the IEM Season V WC champion, Ace. Ace is a legend. He would randomly appear every few months, look like the best player in the world for a single game, then proceed to do nothing of note for another few months. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24380 Posts
On February 14 2025 18:59 Olli wrote: Ace is a legend. He would randomly appear every few months, look like the best player in the world for a single game, then proceed to do nothing of note for another few months. I’m struggling to recall the opponent, think it was a GSL game and Ace played this absolutely bonkers PvZ. Warp prism harass all over the place, splitting his armies up, going toe to toe in a straight-up macro game and using the mommaship well. If not before players like HerO were doing that, it was certainly before it was common and fleshed out. The crazy part is you’re almost not exaggerating, he really would look that damn good sometimes, and it often was just a single game! | ||
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Slydie
1913 Posts
On February 14 2025 10:57 FataLe wrote: I was going to say Sniper, but he's already been mentioned. Maybe ThorZain. He was famous for a fantastic TvT build, the spoon-terran style and retiring to become a doctor. Too bad he lost some a lot of opportunities to BL-infestor bs, otherwise he would likely have won more. | ||
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zelevin
United States247 Posts
Serral has many forgettable championships because he won so much other shit. So several of serral's championships are easily forgotten. it's easy to remember the world championships n shit, but what about his idk 3rd homestory cup? 4th dreamhack? | ||
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Slydie
1913 Posts
On February 16 2025 02:24 zelevin wrote: I got a weird way of answering this question. Serral has many forgettable championships because he won so much other shit. So several of serral's championships are easily forgotten. it's easy to remember the world championships n shit, but what about his idk 3rd homestory cup? 4th dreamhack? The thread is about players, not tournaments. Here are a few premier tournament winners which rang no bells for me:  GeniusKiwianPuzzleGanZi | ||
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Mizenhauer
United States1804 Posts
On February 16 2025 03:18 Slydie wrote: The thread is about players, not tournaments. Here are a few premier tournament winners which rang no bells for me: GeniusKiwianPuzzlehttps://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/GanZi I raise you Fenix | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24380 Posts
It was hard to win say, Code A no doubt, but that was clearly a second tier event versus Code S. Nonetheless, a fun trip down memory lane. It’s interesting to see names, and ponder why some of them became the SC equivalent of one-hit wonders, where others were able to stick around and make pretty meaningful runs. Someone like Puzzle sort of emerged and looked really good for a bit and then didn’t do much again, got to the cusp of being really good but never really broke through. Or even a jjakji who while being an unfancied underdog in his Code S run, also looked legit in that run, and indeed at the time that was probably the best Code S final we’d seen. I guess part of it is the sheer volume of pretty damn good players we used to have. | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2196 Posts
That being said, anyone remember premier event Runner-Up Tassadar ? | ||
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dysenterymd
1177 Posts
On February 16 2025 05:04 WombaT wrote: I think we’re scraping the barrel on Premier events a bit here. It was hard to win say, Code A no doubt, but that was clearly a second tier event versus Code S. Nonetheless, a fun trip down memory lane. It’s interesting to see names, and ponder why some of them became the SC equivalent of one-hit wonders, where others were able to stick around and make pretty meaningful runs. Someone like Puzzle sort of emerged and looked really good for a bit and then didn’t do much again, got to the cusp of being really good but never really broke through. Or even a jjakji who while being an unfancied underdog in his Code S run, also looked legit in that run, and indeed at the time that was probably the best Code S final we’d seen. I guess part of it is the sheer volume of pretty damn good players we used to have. Jjakji also had a second act where he got top 4 in some Dreamhacks/WCS Eu in 2014 and even qualified for Blizzcon 2014, so he wasn't a true one-hit wonder (even if EU was by far the easiest region to qualify from in 2013-2014 because online qualifier lag kept many Koreans out.) An interesting question is who's the best player to never win a liquipedia premier tournament. Maybe Byul? He got 3 star league runner ups in 2015, a WCS Americas runner up in 2013, plus a few other deep runs as well as being a good team league player. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24380 Posts
On February 16 2025 10:08 dysenterymd wrote: Jjakji also had a second act where he got top 4 in some Dreamhacks/WCS Eu in 2014 and even qualified for Blizzcon 2014, so he wasn't a true one-hit wonder (even if EU was by far the easiest region to qualify from in 2013-2014 because online qualifier lag kept many Koreans out.) An interesting question is who's the best player to never win a liquipedia premier tournament. Maybe Byul? He got 3 star league runner ups in 2015, a WCS Americas runner up in 2013, plus a few other deep runs as well as being a good team league player. Good shout, it’s hard to think of players who haven’t got at least one. Byul is probably top, perhaps Jaedong is up there? Bunch of runners-up including a WC and some other consistently high placements, but IIRC he didn’t take one home. Bunny has had a pretty good career without grabbing one. | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1455 Posts
On February 16 2025 11:08 WombaT wrote: Good shout, it’s hard to think of players who haven’t got at least one. Byul is probably top, perhaps Jaedong is up there? Bunch of runners-up including a WC and some other consistently high placements, but IIRC he didn’t take one home. Bunny has had a pretty good career without grabbing one. I remember jaedong winning Asus rog I think I'd count that as premier. Byul never winning though is super sad. He was a bit of a Kong. I remember seeing him crying after getting 2nd place in GSL. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24380 Posts
On February 16 2025 12:02 CicadaSC wrote: I remember jaedong winning Asus rog I think I'd count that as premier. Byul never winning though is super sad. He was a bit of a Kong. I remember seeing him crying after getting 2nd place in GSL. Yeah I should have Liquipediaed it, Jaedong was quite a Kong (Jaekong?) but he did pick up a few. | ||
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Mizenhauer
United States1804 Posts
On February 16 2025 12:10 WombaT wrote: Yeah I should have Liquipediaed it, Jaedong was quite a Kong (Jaekong?) but he did pick up a few. One of the defining features of BW Kongs (including yellow since he started the whole thing) was winning weekenders and similar small scale tournaments, while failing to win the big one. | ||
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