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anarchay
Profile Joined July 2019
19 Posts
January 28 2025 08:03 GMT
#41
I had a blast making my submissions for this contest. Good luck to everyone!

My submissions:

+ Show Spoiler [Obsidian Depths (Standard)] +

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Standard layout but with a twist; 2 extra island bases than the normal 8 bases. One island can be taken as early as a natural base. The other will be much later, unless you choose to sneak an early island base. The islands are easily reachable by long range ground units, and are very harassable.



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NOTE: Cross spawns only (Left+Right, Top+Bottom). An exposed but pocket gold base is available as a natural option. Main bases will open up in the midgame by breaking rocks to access rotating expansion patterns. Promotes diverse strategies and expansion patterns.



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A standard layout featuring a fissure running through the center of the map splitting the aesthetics in two. Xel'Naga towers help secure the forward 4th and triangle 4th.



+ Show Spoiler [Bear's Den (Macro)] +

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Macro map with diverse expansion layouts. Can take forward bases or line bases.



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Outsider features a harassment path wrapping behind both the triangle and line 3rd bases. Destroying a key rock tower on the side reduces mobility on this path. In exchange, the natural choke is small and easy to defend.
themusic246
Profile Joined December 2012
United States214 Posts
January 28 2025 16:11 GMT
#42
maps

Arbiter
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Storm Surge
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The Grid
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Pylon
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Antimatter
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1st place Blizzard arcade RTC contest. 2x 1st place 1v1 Team Liquid Map Contest (30 total ladder map contest finalists). Developer of Zealot Hockey, Star Party, Monobattle Map Rotation and other stuff
KillerSmile
Profile Joined November 2018
Germany96 Posts
January 28 2025 17:19 GMT
#43
My submissions:

10000 Feet 124x136
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Torches 128x144
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Wrath 140x140
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Killer's Mile 144x132
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I was expecting some more maps that use worker paths, zerg rocks or destroying minerals, but we got some very refined standard maps in the mix. Judges are gonna have it tough this time too. Glhf to all the mapmakers.
Mapmaker, author of Mothership LE, 10000 Feet LE, Data-C, Solaris, Ley Lines, Torches and Reclamation LE
themusic246
Profile Joined December 2012
United States214 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-02 15:23:59
January 29 2025 04:38 GMT
#44
consolidated list of maps posted up until this point if its helpful

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OmniSkeptic
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Guckton
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The Map That Needs No Name
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Abacus of Betrayal
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CharactR
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Sandwyrm
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Flowering Night
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Windchill
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Sinking Monastery
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Elsecaro Island
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IIEclipseII
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Dark Origin
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Legan
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Emerald Citadel
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Eldeyja
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Amethyst Colony
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Ruskaletto
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Valerian Academy
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MayOnFire
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Nightvision
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Red Paladin
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Everlasting
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monitor
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Almanac
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Motherboard
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Continuum
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Incorporeal
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Capopy
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CommanderChp/Patches
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Persephone
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Talisman
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Hellscape
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Everbloom
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Celestial Enclave
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anarchay
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Obsidian Depths
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Blindside Basin
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Shattered Sands
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Bear's Den
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Outsider
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themusic246
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Arbiter
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Storm Surge
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The Grid
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Pylon
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Antimatter
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KillerSmile
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10000 Feet
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Torches
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Wrath
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Killer's Mile
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avex
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Aureate
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Botanical
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Cenotaph
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Diffusion
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Selaginella
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volumin
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Tokamak
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Arctic Fall
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Killswitch
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Old Republic
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Rusty Anchor
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SC2Sole
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Voidhaven Station
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Caverns of Time
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1st place Blizzard arcade RTC contest. 2x 1st place 1v1 Team Liquid Map Contest (30 total ladder map contest finalists). Developer of Zealot Hockey, Star Party, Monobattle Map Rotation and other stuff
Cygnus
Profile Joined February 2004
United States853 Posts
January 29 2025 05:15 GMT
#45
So many great maps dropping! Cool seeing the "crop" concept on Bear's Den, really distinguishes it in the lineup.
OmniSkepticSC
Profile Joined November 2023
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-29 07:23:52
January 29 2025 07:23 GMT
#46
On January 29 2025 14:15 Cygnus wrote:
So many great maps dropping! Cool seeing the "crop" concept on Bear's Den, really distinguishes it in the lineup.

I love maps with strange dimensions! I'm a tad worried that the triangular fourth is doing this map a disservice but it's hard to tell

Some very interesting submissions in general! Can't wait to look closer at some I *suspect* are standouts except can't actually reasonably confirm without rush distance (not everybody has been uploading the rush distances which is far more relevant to reading maps these days imo than the dimensions smfh)

Without full info though, I gotta say one of the more "emergent" designs that doesn't depend on any new mechanics, "holdover freshness" due to outdated meta, or other trickery for me would be music's Storm Surge. The balance is likely very chaotic to determine from overview with this sort of design but also it's so cool. Being able to leapfrog up the map using those small ramps with tanks sounds so interesting. Love it (as well as the aesthetics which he always nails)
volumin
Profile Joined May 2021
Poland7 Posts
January 29 2025 11:17 GMT
#47
Tokamak
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148x130 35s
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Arctic Fall
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126x130 33s
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Killswitch
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148x136 33s
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Old Republic
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140x140 35s
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Rusty Anchor
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126x126 32s
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OmniSkepticSC
Profile Joined November 2023
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-30 22:56:33
January 30 2025 22:56 GMT
#48
On January 29 2025 20:17 volumin wrote:
Tokamak
Arctic Fall
Killswitch
Old Republic
Rusty Anchor
Tokamak looks too much like Alcyone imo, during iteration it should have one of its trims changed colour imo (maybe replace one of them with purple or red)?

Love the aesthetic of Arctic Fall tho
SC2Sole
Profile Joined April 2014
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-01 03:35:58
February 01 2025 03:28 GMT
#49
Submissions:

Voidhaven Station
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Rush: 26 seconds
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Rock Collection:
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Expansion Routes:
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Caverns of Time
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Rush: 28 seconds
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It's been a blast to participate. Best of luck to everyone.
CharactR
Profile Joined January 2020
Canada111 Posts
February 01 2025 18:24 GMT
#50
On February 01 2025 12:28 SC2Sole wrote:
Submissions:

Voidhaven Station
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Size: 188x148
Rush: 26 seconds
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Rock Collection:
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Expansion Routes:
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Caverns of Time
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Size: 132x132
Rush: 28 seconds
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Analyzer Images:
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It's been a blast to participate. Best of luck to everyone.


I'm ngl, I did not have Xel'naga Caverns remake on my TLMC bingo card.
Creator of ladder maps: Altitude LE, Undercurrent (2v2), Crimson Research Lab (2v2), Sandstorm (3v3), Lexiphanicism (4v4), Floodplain (4v4)
CharactR
Profile Joined January 2020
Canada111 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-02 09:41:42
February 01 2025 21:05 GMT
#51
Here's my top 16 predictions in no particular order based on the maps that we know of.

1. Continuum by Monitor
2. Incorporeal by Monitor
3. Persephone by Patches
4. Talisman by Patches
5. Storm Surge by Music
6. Pylon by Music
7. Antimatter by Music
8. Torches by Killersmile
9. Rusty Anchor by Volumin
10. Tokamok by Volumin
11.Botanical by Avex
12. Diffusion by Avex
13. Ruskaletto by Legan
14. Eldeyja by Legan
and the last two are probably some ego-brained ass picks especially considering I haven't had a finalist since tlmc 17 but...
15. Sandwyrm by me
16. Flowering Night by me

gl to everyone who entered, and I hope to see some good tlmc tournament games on some fresh maps.

Also I wish I could put 3/4 player maps into my prediction list, but they're usually not favourable among the judges which is enough to tank their score, but I'll give Motherboard by Monitor an honourable mention because I think it's a cool 4 player map.


Creator of ladder maps: Altitude LE, Undercurrent (2v2), Crimson Research Lab (2v2), Sandstorm (3v3), Lexiphanicism (4v4), Floodplain (4v4)
SC2Sole
Profile Joined April 2014
United States6 Posts
February 01 2025 21:07 GMT
#52
I'm ngl, I did not have Xel'naga Caverns remake on my TLMC bingo card.


Haha, thanks. You're actually one of my biggest influences. I really liked your TLMC19 maps. Thanks for pushing boundaries and trying new things.
CharactR
Profile Joined January 2020
Canada111 Posts
February 01 2025 21:35 GMT
#53
On February 02 2025 06:07 SC2Sole wrote:
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I'm ngl, I did not have Xel'naga Caverns remake on my TLMC bingo card.


Haha, thanks. You're actually one of my biggest influences. I really liked your TLMC19 maps. Thanks for pushing boundaries and trying new things.


Oh, thank you. I'm ngl I would never have expected that I would influence somebody that way from my maps.
Though to be honest, I'm not sure going as out there as my TLMC 19 maps is the way to go.
In hindsight I feel I sort of pushed concepts to too much of an extreme or had too much going on at once, I've never really been good at executing on freestyle concepts in a coherent way without taking things too far. Which is why this time around Sandwyrm is just kind of a much more standard version of Dragon Teeth, though maybe to too much of a degree.
They might be fun crazy maps, but will probably never do well in a tlmc. My advice would be that unless your map is really well executed, 1 lighter twist that sets your map apart is better than one or many larger ones.

I would also say to master making boring standard maps before you put the twist on them, but that's totally up to you.
Just as long as they're slightly more modern maps that figured out 3 building walls as naturals, but if you're simply making maps that you think would be fun with your friends, then get as carried away as you want. Really depends on what you're goals are. Either way, happy mapmaking.
Creator of ladder maps: Altitude LE, Undercurrent (2v2), Crimson Research Lab (2v2), Sandstorm (3v3), Lexiphanicism (4v4), Floodplain (4v4)
OmniSkeptic
Profile Joined January 2021
Canada87 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-02 09:33:05
February 02 2025 09:32 GMT
#54
On February 02 2025 06:35 CharactR wrote:
Though to be honest, I'm not sure going as out there as my TLMC 19 maps is the way to go.
In hindsight I feel I sort of pushed concepts to too much of an extreme or had too much going on at once, I've never really been good at executing on freestyle concepts in a coherent way without taking things too far.

Relatable. I think in a lot of my designs both in past contests and this one I’m trying to bend the rules past what anybody is capable of predicting the outcome for so even if I pass the unlikely hurdle of not breaking the game it’s still a waste of my own time

If I end up submitting to the next contest, I will definitely be trying to hit a more even distribution… hopefully attempting some multi-spawn maps to try and placate the ever-present ADHD itch to throw new stimulus at the wall
Mapmaker from Canada. “Be the change you wish to see in the cushions”.
Zuratu
Profile Joined April 2018
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-02-03 06:43:10
February 03 2025 06:42 GMT
#55
My submissions:



BF 1138
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[144x140]
M2M: 39s
R2R: 34s
N2N: 31s

Art images:
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Mothball Station
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[148 x 140]
M2M: 43s
R2R: 35s
N2N: 32s

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Meditations
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[148 x 130]
M2M: 38s
R2R: 33s
N2N: 32s

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( Uploaded to US, EU, and KR with tag [Zura] )
Probably from Earth. Possibly Human.
sidasf
Profile Joined February 2023
104 Posts
February 04 2025 01:29 GMT
#56
Lots of great maps! When will voting be?
themusic246
Profile Joined December 2012
United States214 Posts
February 04 2025 04:50 GMT
#57
Lots of great maps! When will voting be?

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TLDR: in a month or so
1st place Blizzard arcade RTC contest. 2x 1st place 1v1 Team Liquid Map Contest (30 total ladder map contest finalists). Developer of Zealot Hockey, Star Party, Monobattle Map Rotation and other stuff
JamesmJimlawther
Profile Joined February 2025
11 Posts
February 04 2025 12:18 GMT
#58
--- Nuked ---
CommanderChp
Profile Joined May 2021
United States13 Posts
February 04 2025 19:24 GMT
#59
My Predictions (In no particular order)

Torches by KillerSmile
Wrath by KillerSmile
Flowering Night by CharactR
Incorporeal by monitor
Canopy by monitor
Persephone by me (cope)
Talisman by me (double cope)
Arbiter by Music
Pylon by Music
Diffusion by Avex
Cenotaph by Avex
Nightvision by MayOnFire
Amethyst Colony by Legan
Killer's Mile by KillerSmile
Rusty Anchor by volumin
Killswitch by volumin
TLMC19 Finalist (Sacred Isle and Atlantis) TLMC20 Finalist (Persephone), TLMC21 Finalist (Taito Citadel, Talisman and Celestial Enclave), TLMC22 Finalist (Lumen, Washout, Rorschach, Verdant Temple)
SC2Sole
Profile Joined April 2014
United States6 Posts
February 05 2025 04:46 GMT
#60
I think in a lot of my designs both in past contests and this one I’m trying to bend the rules past what anybody is capable of predicting the outcome

I finally got some time to test out the submissions, and I walked away really impressed with the ideas you came up for this round. Like the gold minerals on Abacus is actually genius. It's so simple and such an efficient use of space. I could easily see that becoming a standard feature in future maps.

Guckton is what I thought TLMC19 was going to be; and, Abacus, in its concepts, is what I was expecting for TLMC20. I think it's hard to fully appreciate the intricacies of the maps with just the top down perspective. There's a lot of maps this round that feel totally different in game.
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