EPTdepressing news anyway, but could have been even worse. Blizzard is letting its game die for what is for them just spare money.
2023/24 ESL Pro Tour: Prizes down, regions merged
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knotfun
41 Posts
depressing news anyway, but could have been even worse. Blizzard is letting its game die for what is for them just spare money. | ||
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mintyminmus
Australia127 Posts
The oceania region feels like a meme anyway xD | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On February 24 2023 10:44 knotfun wrote: in hindsight, Artosis leaving GSL would mean he knew the whole thing was going to shrink in size to the point one wonders if it's still existing. depressing news anyway, but could have been even worse. Blizzard is letting its game die for what is for them just spare money. We've known for years that Blizzard funding would end this year, it was pretty obvious that there would at least be some budget cuts | ||
digmouse
China6330 Posts
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ZeroByte13
784 Posts
There were ups and downs, but in general these 13 years were awesome. Sad to see Korean scene taking such a big hit but it is what it is. Hopefully Stormgate will be released next year and become successful - then we'll see quite a few familiar faces again, I'd guess. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7088 Posts
GSL price pool maybe low but don't forget that Korean will still participate in the ESL Masters and World Cup where there is additional money to make | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
And hopefully Stormgate will be good! | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3426 Posts
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MJG
United Kingdom1399 Posts
It's obviously a shame that the prize money has gone down, especially to the extend that it has in Korea, but this was always going to happen without developer support. If these are the levels that are deemed sustainable from advertising and viewership alone, then I don't think things are as bad as some people are trying to make out. Besides, it's a 13 year old game, so we're very lucky to have gotten this far! | ||
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oneill12
Romania1222 Posts
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
On February 24 2023 08:14 tlnetuser108 wrote: I wish Elon Musk loved SC2 I'd rather have a small scene than have Elon Musk love SC. | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On February 25 2023 00:38 Akio wrote: I'd rather have a small scene than have Elon Musk love SC. Elon reveals Zerg cabal at Blizzard HQ  | ||
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IArako
Germany195 Posts
People taking stuff like that too much for granted for a game this old. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
The fact is this: Even if stormgate is great, it will never have the budget to fund big events | ||
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Janosh
4 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7088 Posts
On February 25 2023 03:22 [Phantom] wrote: people excited about stormgate are on hopium. The fact is this: Even if stormgate is great, it will never have the budget to fund big events Exactly. Even if this does come out big, the first big tournemts will have max price pools of maybe 50k. There is now way a small company like this can invest heavily into esport right from the getgo | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 27 2023 18:43 Harris1st wrote: Exactly. Even if this does come out big, the first big tournemts will have max price pools of maybe 50k. There is now way a small company like this can invest heavily into esport right from the getgo they probably can't, but if they can find one/a few big sponsors, things might be different. if Stormgate can make some large company believe in its Esports potential, that might be enough. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On February 24 2023 15:41 digmouse wrote: This is the beginning of the end, isn't it. It's hard to say to be honest. Korean scene is probably done, but it's been that way for some time, more or less since pros realised that ASL + streaming made BW a viable option again. Foreign scene maybe isn't quite so bad, given ESL hasn't cut things from a percentage standpoint quite so much as GSL + maybe not so many Koreans taking higher spots - on the assumption that they don't make prize money absurdly top heavy (as so many major tournaments have had a tendency to do in the past). That said, I fail to see how ESL can possibly be breaking even on investment and would be able to retain the prize fund levels they have in the medium term, especially given how casual interest is basically zero at this stage. Checking on the SC thread in another forum I frequent, and while volumes are generally down, there's been barely a couple of hundred posts a year for half a decade now, and half of those are discussing ASL/BW. I personally can't recall the last time I watched an SC2 game - probably Neeb's Kespa Cup win. Maybe there's a greater propagation of community tournaments (hate the term, but for want of a better name for those not bankrolled by Blizzard) and players can at least maintain a side income from SC2, who knows, but I don't see how you ever get any significant new interest in the game again. | ||
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ScarletAerie
40 Posts
On February 28 2023 05:04 sixfour wrote: That said, I fail to see how ESL can possibly be breaking even on investment and would be able to retain the prize fund levels they have in the medium term, especially given how casual interest is basically zero at this stage. Given the state of esports and the economy currently, I wouldn't be surprised if it continues to plummet if not drop it entirely. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
On February 25 2023 03:22 [Phantom] wrote: people excited about stormgate are on hopium. The fact is this: Even if stormgate is great, it will never have the budget to fund big events It doesn’t have to be huge, just a bloody good game that’s relatively successful. It doesn’t have to be hitting the heights Starcraft(s) have to carve out a big enough niche for folks who love competitive RTS. Although people are I think giving into hype more in desperation than hope. As for these changes, not as bad as expected. Actually think some of the region merges are something that could have been done a while ago. | ||
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