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Curufinwe Feanor
Profile Joined August 2012
Brazil91 Posts
September 05 2022 00:43 GMT
#21
I guess the GOAT discussion doesnt existe anymore. Who would dare?
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goldensail
Profile Joined May 2022
132 Posts
September 05 2022 11:53 GMT
#22
On September 05 2022 09:43 Curufinwe Feanor wrote:
I guess the GOAT discussion doesnt existe anymore. Who would dare?


it is indeed pointless when the game balance is in its current state.

how could any Terran win? Few people would deny that Maru is the greatest Terran ever and his skills are pushing the limit of human ability in SC2, and yet if you throw endless waves of ling bane at him, he will be overwhelmed sooner or later.
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
September 05 2022 13:30 GMT
#23
On September 05 2022 20:53 goldensail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 09:43 Curufinwe Feanor wrote:
I guess the GOAT discussion doesnt existe anymore. Who would dare?


it is indeed pointless when the game balance is in its current state.

how could any Terran win? Few people would deny that Maru is the greatest Terran ever and his skills are pushing the limit of human ability in SC2, and yet if you throw endless waves of ling bane at him, he will be overwhelmed sooner or later.


Somehow, whenever I'm trying to throw endless waves of ling bane at somebody, the "endlessness" ends pretty quick, which leads to me failing pretty hard.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3515 Posts
September 06 2022 01:36 GMT
#24
On September 05 2022 22:30 watchlulu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 20:53 goldensail wrote:
On September 05 2022 09:43 Curufinwe Feanor wrote:
I guess the GOAT discussion doesnt existe anymore. Who would dare?


it is indeed pointless when the game balance is in its current state.

how could any Terran win? Few people would deny that Maru is the greatest Terran ever and his skills are pushing the limit of human ability in SC2, and yet if you throw endless waves of ling bane at him, he will be overwhelmed sooner or later.


Somehow, whenever I'm trying to throw endless waves of ling bane at somebody, the "endlessness" ends pretty quick, which leads to me failing pretty hard.

It still require the right control to do mass LingBaneHydra smash into Terran base, and Maru was almost able to stabilize in both games until his Factory units ran low.
But I have also seen Zerg player who just A-Move lingbanehydra with little micro , aka Soo vs Byun, and still manage to break the Terran
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 06 2022 09:15 GMT
#25
On September 06 2022 10:36 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 22:30 watchlulu wrote:
On September 05 2022 20:53 goldensail wrote:
On September 05 2022 09:43 Curufinwe Feanor wrote:
I guess the GOAT discussion doesnt existe anymore. Who would dare?


it is indeed pointless when the game balance is in its current state.

how could any Terran win? Few people would deny that Maru is the greatest Terran ever and his skills are pushing the limit of human ability in SC2, and yet if you throw endless waves of ling bane at him, he will be overwhelmed sooner or later.


Somehow, whenever I'm trying to throw endless waves of ling bane at somebody, the "endlessness" ends pretty quick, which leads to me failing pretty hard.

It still require the right control to do mass LingBaneHydra smash into Terran base, and Maru was almost able to stabilize in both games until his Factory units ran low.
But I have also seen Zerg player who just A-Move lingbanehydra with little micro , aka Soo vs Byun, and still manage to break the Terran



I think the key is there. Factory units. Maru teched to hard to ghosts when he would have done better just pumping mine/hellbat from reactor factories. I think a rapid ghost transition to lategame makes sense when your opponent is transitioning as well into lurker/BL/ultra lategame. But Serral keep swarming with cheap ling/bane hidra. I think a less focus on getting ghosts asap and a more 2 step transition when you first reach a good mine/hellbat count and a good factory infrastructure and then move to ghosts is key to defeat this Serral counter to Maru turtle style.

The biggest advantage Serral has at sc2 is that he can see how its opponents play vs high level zergs and integrate their ideas into their play ( I am looking at the cool Dark parasitic ghost control) whereas there is no other Terran like Maru.

If Maru had seen that style in particular coming from serral at any point of the upper bracket, he would have been more ready I think.
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goldensail
Profile Joined May 2022
132 Posts
September 06 2022 21:38 GMT
#26
While making more mines would've certainly helped against ling/bane, someone made a good point in the other thread that then Serral could've easily switched to lurkers to counter that.

Another good quote was "a race with superior economy shouldn't also have such versatile units".
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