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On July 08 2022 04:23 Hoshizake wrote:
So, you have no problem instantly churning out an article for dark but you can't be bothered to write a article when serral won the world championship? I think I know the issue here
After seeing TL as one of the worst spots for accusing content creators of being "non-Korean biased" I must admit I was confused upon seeing this "TL is Korean biased" insinuation. That's what I assume it is, right?
Thank you Wax for doing the write-up.
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On July 08 2022 04:23 Hoshizake wrote:
So, you have no problem instantly churning out an article for dark but you can't be bothered to write a article when serral won the world championship? I think I know the issue here
Goat Serral doesn’t need an article
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On July 08 2022 04:45 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2022 04:23 Hoshizake wrote:
So, you have no problem instantly churning out an article for dark but you can't be bothered to write a article when serral won the world championship? I think I know the issue here Maybe you should have written it? You know these articles are basically all volunteer work right? They should write about whatever or whoever they choose to. Katowice was also harder to write about because the Zerg dominance was so ridiculous any article wouldn't have been able to ignore it.
Also, writing an article about the biggest tournament of the year isn't quite the same amount of work as one dreamhack, I would assume.
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Good read.
Thanks for explaining why Serral didnt participate.
Him not qualifying for such a big event is quite unexpected.
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I actually thought this was a pretty hype event overall. Great to be back on "lan" and with a crowd. Kr dominating the top 4 gives us good storylines going into the next big international tourney.
Serral didnt even play in this tournament so idk why people are bringing him up in this thread. Especially if its not "lets see how dominant kr are vs foreigners with serral hopefully attending the next tourney".
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Don't worry guys I will be writing the IEM Katowice write up and publishing it a day before next Katowice
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Very great tournament. The ONLY non-Korean contenders for being the GOAT are Reynor and Stephano. Everyone else were/are patch Zergs or need to rely on jetlag to win. Or the Koreans/other top EU/NA players just didn't take the tournament seriously. Not sure why people unjustly can even make claims that European patch Zergs that rely on their opponent being jetlagged get touted as GOAT and called Korean Killers and nonsense like that. There's a very good reason why some players were able to make it to DH Valencia and some were not able to attend. Those that couldn't make it are simply very bad and overhyped players with no real achievements aside from winning against jetlagged Koreans who would beat them any other day.
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And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D
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On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D
Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice
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On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice
As a wise man once said:
"Everything make sense if you are just have the courage to ignore reality"
Nakajin
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On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice
Nah GSL has been the B league since 2018. Serral came and conquered GSL twice. Just too ez for him and not worth his time and effort
Blizzcon and Katowice are kings
GSL was the golden standard back during Kespa era
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On July 09 2022 06:04 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice As a wise man once said: "Everything make sense if you are just have the courage to ignore reality" Nakajin
Couldn't he say the same thing about you? I think GSL Code S is a legitimate test serral hasn't even attempted yet. It's a different style tournament and u can't say for sure it would go as smoothly.
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On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice
What does Zerg actually have to prepare? Outside of the occasional map-specific cheese, it's... standard -> scout -> react to whatever the P or T player has prepared against you.
Also, lol @ Serral being afraid of the "big boys". He is the big boy
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Northern Ireland24396 Posts
On July 09 2022 06:04 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice As a wise man once said: "Everything make sense if you are just have the courage to ignore reality" Nakajin
This wisdom will come in useful for my inevitable next round of engagements with the anti-factsvax crowd
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Northern Ireland24396 Posts
On July 09 2022 12:01 CicadaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2022 06:04 Nakajin wrote:On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice As a wise man once said: "Everything make sense if you are just have the courage to ignore reality" Nakajin Couldn't he say the same thing about you? I think GSL Code S is a legitimate test serral hasn't even attempted yet. It's a different style tournament and u can't say for sure it would go as smoothly.
I’ve long wanted to see Serral give it a shot, and Reynor to try again. More for hype and seeing something different than feeling it’s a hoop they have to jump through to prove themselves.
And at this stage they’d also flesh out a tournament struggling with real depth like it never has before, it’s a win-win really.
Serral’s pretty well regarded by the top Korean players who actually have to play him, I’ll take their read on it:
Enchant: Speaking of this, I'm curious. You used to use green in the game. Why did you change it to white later.
Zest: I followed Serral because he did that.
Enchant: hahahaha, people always learn from strong players, even Zest.
Zest: It's a good habit.
Enchant: so how do you evaluate serral? Do you think he is the best player.
Zest: Of course.
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On July 08 2022 06:04 daKenji wrote:
Good read.
Thanks for explaining why Serral didnt participate.
Him not qualifying for such a big event is quite unexpected.
He could have participated all he had to do was go there.
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On July 09 2022 11:35 TossHeroes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice Nah GSL has been the B league since 2018. Serral came and conquered GSL twice. Just too ez for him and not worth his time and effort Blizzcon and Katowice are kings GSL was the golden standard back during Kespa era
TOP 16 Korean code S players are all capable of taking convincing series against Serral and Reynor , in Europe that number is near 0.
You also forget Zergs massively favored in online play because they don't need good micro just good army movement.
Rogue if he is not on his A game get's instantly eliminated from GSL, happened many times over the years, that tournament is brutal in how high the skill level is on average across every player.
Foreign SC2 has never had a higher level then Korean SC2 , we just have a Serral and a Reynor who can compete with them and the rest would never win a stacked Korean tournament by a long shot so yeah, was fun schooling you.
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On July 15 2022 11:06 Drahkn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2022 11:35 TossHeroes wrote:On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice Nah GSL has been the B league since 2018. Serral came and conquered GSL twice. Just too ez for him and not worth his time and effort Blizzcon and Katowice are kings GSL was the golden standard back during Kespa era TOP 16 Korean code S players are all capable of taking convincing series against Serral and Reynor , in Europe that number is near 0. You also forget Zergs massively favored in online play because they don't need good micro just good army movement. Rogue if he is not on his A game get's instantly eliminated from GSL, happened many times over the years, that tournament is brutal in how high the skill level is on average across every player. Foreign SC2 has never had a higher level then Korean SC2 , we just have a Serral and a Reynor who can compete with them and the rest would never win a stacked Korean tournament by a long shot so yeah, was fun schooling you.
how can u be this wrong ?
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On July 16 2022 01:56 yepjan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2022 11:06 Drahkn wrote:On July 09 2022 11:35 TossHeroes wrote:On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice Nah GSL has been the B league since 2018. Serral came and conquered GSL twice. Just too ez for him and not worth his time and effort Blizzcon and Katowice are kings GSL was the golden standard back during Kespa era TOP 16 Korean code S players are all capable of taking convincing series against Serral and Reynor , in Europe that number is near 0. You also forget Zergs massively favored in online play because they don't need good micro just good army movement. Rogue if he is not on his A game get's instantly eliminated from GSL, happened many times over the years, that tournament is brutal in how high the skill level is on average across every player. Foreign SC2 has never had a higher level then Korean SC2 , we just have a Serral and a Reynor who can compete with them and the rest would never win a stacked Korean tournament by a long shot so yeah, was fun schooling you. how can u be this wrong ?
Saying Serral and Reynor are the only ones who truly compete with KR players isn't wrong it's a fact. Look at every single open qualifier event from the last few years. KR was still extremely dominant in every way besides Serral/Reynor winning sometimes. I don't think KR has ever made up less than half of a top 16 in any open event that wasn't forced that way due to region locking. At Katowice the worst they've ever done in top 12 representatives is 8. Foreigners would still literally never win open events if it wasn't for Serral/Reynor.
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On July 08 2022 05:14 TossHeroes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2022 04:23 Hoshizake wrote:
So, you have no problem instantly churning out an article for dark but you can't be bothered to write a article when serral won the world championship? I think I know the issue here Goat Serral doesn’t need an article
goats don't lose mirror matches 0-4.
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