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hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland423 Posts
July 08 2022 17:03 GMT
#21
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D
Ultima Ratio Regum
pandorasheep
Profile Joined February 2022
60 Posts
July 08 2022 19:51 GMT
#22
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada7959 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-08 21:06:53
July 08 2022 21:04 GMT
#23
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


As a wise man once said:

"Everything make sense if you are just have the courage to ignore reality"
Nakajin
http://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
64 Posts
July 09 2022 02:35 GMT
#24
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


Nah GSL has been the B league since 2018. Serral came and conquered GSL twice. Just too ez for him and not worth his time and effort

Blizzcon and Katowice are kings

GSL was the golden standard back during Kespa era
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
319 Posts
July 09 2022 03:01 GMT
#25
On July 09 2022 06:04 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


As a wise man once said:

"Everything make sense if you are just have the courage to ignore reality"
Nakajin

Couldn't he say the same thing about you? I think GSL Code S is a legitimate test serral hasn't even attempted yet. It's a different style tournament and u can't say for sure it would go as smoothly.
tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-09 11:33:26
July 09 2022 11:32 GMT
#26
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


What does Zerg actually have to prepare? Outside of the occasional map-specific cheese, it's... standard -> scout -> react to whatever the P or T player has prepared against you.

Also, lol @ Serral being afraid of the "big boys". He is the big boy
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland18004 Posts
July 09 2022 11:36 GMT
#27
On July 09 2022 06:04 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


As a wise man once said:

"Everything make sense if you are just have the courage to ignore reality"
Nakajin

This wisdom will come in useful for my inevitable next round of engagements with the anti-factsvax crowd
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland18004 Posts
July 09 2022 11:59 GMT
#28
On July 09 2022 12:01 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2022 06:04 Nakajin wrote:
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


As a wise man once said:

"Everything make sense if you are just have the courage to ignore reality"
Nakajin

Couldn't he say the same thing about you? I think GSL Code S is a legitimate test serral hasn't even attempted yet. It's a different style tournament and u can't say for sure it would go as smoothly.

I’ve long wanted to see Serral give it a shot, and Reynor to try again. More for hype and seeing something different than feeling it’s a hoop they have to jump through to prove themselves.

And at this stage they’d also flesh out a tournament struggling with real depth like it never has before, it’s a win-win really.

Serral’s pretty well regarded by the top Korean players who actually have to play him, I’ll take their read on it:

Enchant: Speaking of this, I'm curious. You used to use green in the game. Why did you change it to white later.

Zest: I followed Serral because he did that.

Enchant: hahahaha, people always learn from strong players, even Zest.

Zest: It's a good habit.

Enchant: so how do you evaluate serral? Do you think he is the best player.

Zest: Of course.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
95 Posts
July 15 2022 01:53 GMT
#29
On July 08 2022 06:04 daKenji wrote:
Good read.
Thanks for explaining why Serral didnt participate.
Him not qualifying for such a big event is quite unexpected.




He could have participated all he had to do was go there.
Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
95 Posts
July 15 2022 02:06 GMT
#30
On July 09 2022 11:35 TossHeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


Nah GSL has been the B league since 2018. Serral came and conquered GSL twice. Just too ez for him and not worth his time and effort

Blizzcon and Katowice are kings

GSL was the golden standard back during Kespa era



TOP 16 Korean code S players are all capable of taking convincing series against Serral and Reynor , in Europe that number is near 0.

You also forget Zergs massively favored in online play because they don't need good micro just good army movement.


Rogue if he is not on his A game get's instantly eliminated from GSL, happened many times over the years, that tournament is brutal in how high the skill level is on average across every player.


Foreign SC2 has never had a higher level then Korean SC2 , we just have a Serral and a Reynor who can compete with them and the rest would never win a stacked Korean tournament by a long shot so yeah, was fun schooling you.
yepjan
Profile Joined February 2021
19 Posts
July 15 2022 16:56 GMT
#31
On July 15 2022 11:06 Drahkn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2022 11:35 TossHeroes wrote:
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


Nah GSL has been the B league since 2018. Serral came and conquered GSL twice. Just too ez for him and not worth his time and effort

Blizzcon and Katowice are kings

GSL was the golden standard back during Kespa era



TOP 16 Korean code S players are all capable of taking convincing series against Serral and Reynor , in Europe that number is near 0.

You also forget Zergs massively favored in online play because they don't need good micro just good army movement.


Rogue if he is not on his A game get's instantly eliminated from GSL, happened many times over the years, that tournament is brutal in how high the skill level is on average across every player.


Foreign SC2 has never had a higher level then Korean SC2 , we just have a Serral and a Reynor who can compete with them and the rest would never win a stacked Korean tournament by a long shot so yeah, was fun schooling you.


how can u be this wrong ?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3860 Posts
July 15 2022 19:18 GMT
#32
On July 16 2022 01:56 yepjan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2022 11:06 Drahkn wrote:
On July 09 2022 11:35 TossHeroes wrote:
On July 09 2022 04:51 pandorasheep wrote:
On July 09 2022 02:03 hiroshOne wrote:
And how u call Serral who went to Korea to beat every single top players there to win GSL vs the World? They weren' jet lagged then, were they :-D


Nobody cared about GSL vs the World. There's a reason Serral chooses not to go to Korea to play against the big boys in a preparation style tournament. It requires actual skill as opposed to marathon style. Everyone knows this. Its why GSL is considered more prestigious than Blizzcon/WCS/IEM Katowice


Nah GSL has been the B league since 2018. Serral came and conquered GSL twice. Just too ez for him and not worth his time and effort

Blizzcon and Katowice are kings

GSL was the golden standard back during Kespa era



TOP 16 Korean code S players are all capable of taking convincing series against Serral and Reynor , in Europe that number is near 0.

You also forget Zergs massively favored in online play because they don't need good micro just good army movement.


Rogue if he is not on his A game get's instantly eliminated from GSL, happened many times over the years, that tournament is brutal in how high the skill level is on average across every player.


Foreign SC2 has never had a higher level then Korean SC2 , we just have a Serral and a Reynor who can compete with them and the rest would never win a stacked Korean tournament by a long shot so yeah, was fun schooling you.


how can u be this wrong ?


Saying Serral and Reynor are the only ones who truly compete with KR players isn't wrong it's a fact. Look at every single open qualifier event from the last few years. KR was still extremely dominant in every way besides Serral/Reynor winning sometimes. I don't think KR has ever made up less than half of a top 16 in any open event that wasn't forced that way due to region locking. At Katowice the worst they've ever done in top 12 representatives is 8. Foreigners would still literally never win open events if it wasn't for Serral/Reynor.
allmotor1
Profile Joined December 2017
91 Posts
July 16 2022 15:37 GMT
#33
On July 08 2022 05:14 TossHeroes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2022 04:23 Hoshizake wrote:
So, you have no problem instantly churning out an article for dark but you can't be bothered to write a article when serral won the world championship? I think I know the issue here


Goat Serral doesn’t need an article


goats don't lose mirror matches 0-4.

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