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Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-18 12:51:27
February 18 2021 12:38 GMT
#1
https://twitter.com/olimoley/status/1362326838211584003?s=20




There will be a Korean stream and an English stream with unannounced broadcast talent on the Blizzcon-Strategy channel. It starts 12:10 AM CET on Saturday.

This actually sounds kinda cool. Better than nothing. Finally we have some info about it!

edit: I just saw that theres already a thread in the BW section maybe delete this post? idk
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MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
February 18 2021 12:40 GMT
#2
lost temple? lol
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany457 Posts
February 18 2021 12:49 GMT
#3
wow...not impressed, neither hyped tbh. Very uninspired and not what at least I was imagining, when they said "there will be some kind of sc2 event at Blizzcon." Blizzard never fails to dissapoint these days
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Personas
Profile Joined February 2021
2 Posts
February 18 2021 13:02 GMT
#4
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kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
February 18 2021 13:10 GMT
#5
I mean, 1v1 on big game hunters?
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
February 18 2021 13:23 GMT
#6
What's super funny, is that this overlaps with IEM and ASTL. So more proof that this whole thing by blizzard was just an after thought. Really don't know why they are trying to squeeze in a Blizzcon in February. Would have been way smarter to just have it on the usual date late in the year. That way they have more content to announce.
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
February 18 2021 13:23 GMT
#7
Lost Temple is eternal. This will be silly but who cares it has MVP!
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
February 18 2021 13:42 GMT
#8
On February 18 2021 22:23 MinixTheNerd wrote:
What's super funny, is that this overlaps with IEM and ASTL. So more proof that this whole thing by blizzard was just an after thought. Really don't know why they are trying to squeeze in a Blizzcon in February. Would have been way smarter to just have it on the usual date late in the year. That way they have more content to announce.

They have a major WoW content update to reveal, plus probably a release date for OW2 or Diablo Immortal to announce.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33347 Posts
February 18 2021 13:42 GMT
#9
Any StarCraft is better than no StarCraft, but this kind of haphazardly put together event really feels like a case of trying to please everyone but ending up pleasing no one
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom941 Posts
February 18 2021 14:02 GMT
#10
I don't understand who these games are supposed to appeal to...
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-18 14:06:00
February 18 2021 14:05 GMT
#11
Last is way to recent and unaccomplished to be in the bonjwa/greatest category. I don't disagree that he is awesome though and if he hadn't experienced injuries, he might have a few more championships under his belt. I'm surprised he's even playing given his condition.

Ranking of these matchups:
If these maps are SC1 versions, it should be a landslide for the BW players.

If these maps are SC2 versions, I think the MVP + Nestea 2v2 would be the only heavily favored matchup for the SC2 pros.
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway688 Posts
February 18 2021 14:11 GMT
#12
On February 18 2021 23:02 MJG wrote:
I don't understand who these games are supposed to appeal to...

There are aspects to brood war other than 1v1 that interests people.
I lot of people plays BGH, FFA etc. Artosis has hosted some FFA's that are pretty entertaining.
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
February 18 2021 14:12 GMT
#13
On February 18 2021 22:42 imJealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2021 22:23 MinixTheNerd wrote:
What's super funny, is that this overlaps with IEM and ASTL. So more proof that this whole thing by blizzard was just an after thought. Really don't know why they are trying to squeeze in a Blizzcon in February. Would have been way smarter to just have it on the usual date late in the year. That way they have more content to announce.

They have a major WoW content update to reveal, plus probably a release date for OW2 or Diablo Immortal to announce.


That's not a lot of content lol, and it also begs the question what do they announce with the Blizzcon after this? Not like they are taking on many new projects.
poiiooihjg
Profile Joined February 2021
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-18 14:25:03
February 18 2021 14:22 GMT
#14
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
February 18 2021 14:37 GMT
#15
MVP MVP MVPPPPPP
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
February 18 2021 14:38 GMT
#16
On February 18 2021 22:42 Waxangel wrote:
Any StarCraft is better than no StarCraft, but this kind of haphazardly put together event really feels like a case of trying to please everyone but ending up pleasing no one


I am pleased because my lord and savior MVP has made an appearance
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 18 2021 15:01 GMT
#17
Individual also is a FFA on Big Game hunters?
That realy sucks.
I m fine with 2v2, it s a great format for such an event, but no 1v1 at all is realy taking it for me.
Also I probably don t follow the scene long enough (and don t follow BW at al) to have an opinion about any of those players but PartinG
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 18 2021 15:06 GMT
#18
On February 18 2021 23:02 MJG wrote:
I don't understand who these games are supposed to appeal to...


I guess it's mostly for the Korean BW scene and they threw in some SC2 player for good measure.
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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3366 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-18 15:23:38
February 18 2021 15:22 GMT
#19
There better be some highlighting of MC+PartinG banter!

I guess this is why PartinG played some BW.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
February 18 2021 15:48 GMT
#20
On February 18 2021 22:42 imJealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2021 22:23 MinixTheNerd wrote:
What's super funny, is that this overlaps with IEM and ASTL. So more proof that this whole thing by blizzard was just an after thought. Really don't know why they are trying to squeeze in a Blizzcon in February. Would have been way smarter to just have it on the usual date late in the year. That way they have more content to announce.

They have a major WoW content update to reveal, plus probably a release date for OW2 or Diablo Immortal to announce.


After the recent statement about the „multiple mobile WarCraft Games“ I‘m scared shitless that they have the audacity to repeat their Diablo:Immortal disaster
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2842 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-18 18:58:12
February 18 2021 18:57 GMT
#21
Blizzard is a giant piece of shit lol. I can't wait until this site fully moves over to covering Dreamhaven/Frost Giant stuff, once they get further along in development. Dear God, what a clusterfuck of capitalism.

aka wilted_kale
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3353 Posts
February 18 2021 19:51 GMT
#22
2v2 is a good format but PP vs PP on LT has 0 appeal, at least get python and like tz vs pz or something. Not to mention the obvious disparity of skill between the teams for BW.

No 1v1 is also unfortunate...
Overall an odd choice
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Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2349 Posts
February 18 2021 19:58 GMT
#23
OMG they'll play on BGH :D I never saw this coming.
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freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
February 18 2021 20:19 GMT
#24
not impressed. that being said, not much wouldve impressed me besides if they brought in life. or maybe flash vs jd in sc2.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 18 2021 21:13 GMT
#25
On February 19 2021 05:19 freelifeffs wrote:
not impressed. that being said, not much wouldve impressed me besides if they brought in life. or maybe flash vs jd in sc2.

If they tried to invite Life, no other Player would have agreed to Play.
Why should they invite the Player, that killed their game in Korea anyways?
MaxPax
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25071 Posts
February 19 2021 00:06 GMT
#26
As a filler event around a normal SC2 Blizzcon I’d think this was pretty cool, as a stand-alone thing and with other events going on it feels a bit, meh frankly.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44245 Posts
February 19 2021 00:43 GMT
#27
"NesTea, MVP, MC"

Hell yeah, the holy trinity of OG WOL
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VamosSC
Profile Joined June 2018
21 Posts
February 19 2021 01:50 GMT
#28
Looks like fun to me :D
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
February 19 2021 03:02 GMT
#29
On February 19 2021 03:57 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Blizzard is a giant piece of shit lol. I can't wait until this site fully moves over to covering Dreamhaven/Frost Giant stuff, once they get further along in development. Dear God, what a clusterfuck of capitalism.



but tell us how you really feel
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StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
February 19 2021 03:23 GMT
#30
Really disappointing. I probably won't even watch. Based on the vague description, I was expecting something like a fun, proleague-style bo7 between 2 teams. This is just lame.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
February 19 2021 06:40 GMT
#31
Lol, okay. At least I know what I definitely wont watch. Thanks Blizz
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
February 19 2021 08:36 GMT
#32
What irks me about this event is that is only looking backwards: "Here are some players who were at one point the best in the game. We are bringing these legends back one more time." There is nothing for current StarCraft II pros, as if the scene was already dead. Blizzard treats StarCraft II competition as a thing of the past.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3459 Posts
February 19 2021 08:51 GMT
#33
On February 19 2021 17:36 Crocolisk Dundee wrote:
What irks me about this event is that is only looking backwards: "Here are some players who were at one point the best in the game. We are bringing these legends back one more time." There is nothing for current StarCraft II pros, as if the scene was already dead. Blizzard treats StarCraft II competition as a thing of the past.

All the current best sc2 players are probably busy that day playing this small online event called 'iem katowice'
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
February 19 2021 10:41 GMT
#34
On February 19 2021 17:51 darklycid wrote:
All the current best sc2 players are probably busy that day playing this small online event called 'iem katowice'


Yes. Events like IEM and BlizzCon are planned months in advance. There was no interest in adjusting the schedules to allow for current StarCraft II pro players to participate at a BlizzCon event.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
hghgfgdsaahfgh
Profile Joined February 2021
2 Posts
February 19 2021 11:20 GMT
#35
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
February 19 2021 12:01 GMT
#36
Will they play the WoL version of SC2? :-)
Jokes apart, it is better some StarCraft than no StarCraft, but I do not see audience for this given that it overlaps with IEM. If they hire Tastosis then maybe...
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 19 2021 15:33 GMT
#37
On February 19 2021 21:01 Xamo wrote:
Will they play the WoL version of SC2? :-)
Jokes apart, it is better some StarCraft than no StarCraft, but I do not see audience for this given that it overlaps with IEM. If they hire Tastosis then maybe...

Wouldn t be suprise if they Don t even have any bw/sc2 caster for this and just the intern, Who s responsible for "strategy games" this week does the casting
MaxPax
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
February 19 2021 17:13 GMT
#38
On February 20 2021 00:33 dbRic1203 wrote:
Wouldn t be suprise if they Don t even have any bw/sc2 caster for this and just the intern, Who s responsible for "strategy games" this week does the casting


I am really curious who they hired to cast. Nothing on the Twitter feeds of Tasteless and Artosis about it, so I guess it is someone else.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
BLiTzD86
Profile Joined November 2018
6 Posts
February 19 2021 17:41 GMT
#39
I mean you al have phones right? LUL This is following those same foot steps, they are trolling us almost, feels like a dollar bill on a fishing line that is endless.
izuzuhgfgdfdfg
Profile Joined February 2021
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-19 17:50:50
February 19 2021 17:49 GMT
#40
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vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
February 19 2021 18:02 GMT
#41
lol this feels like SC2 fans being a kid wanting to play catch or something with his dad (blizzard) but the dad hardly wants play and puts low effort, and the kid is even sadder lol.
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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
February 19 2021 18:15 GMT
#42
Wait, it says "both BW and SC2" but neither lost temple nor BGH is SC2. Or are they going to play the weirdest SC2 game on a remake of these maps?
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland402 Posts
February 19 2021 18:15 GMT
#43
Would be funny if they made big announcement about having new map pool after IEM. Everybody outside the community would probably think that being great thing compared to previous years and in light of present changes.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 19 2021 18:23 GMT
#44
On February 20 2021 03:15 AbouSV wrote:
Wait, it says "both BW and SC2" but neither lost temple nor BGH is SC2. Or are they going to play the weirdest SC2 game on a remake of these maps?

(Wiki)Lost Temple?
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 19 2021 18:26 GMT
#45
neat but not worth destroying my sleep schedule.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
February 19 2021 18:49 GMT
#46
On February 20 2021 03:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2021 03:15 AbouSV wrote:
Wait, it says "both BW and SC2" but neither lost temple nor BGH is SC2. Or are they going to play the weirdest SC2 game on a remake of these maps?

(Wiki)Lost Temple?


Yes, but this is not a LotV map, hence the weirdest SC2 game if they still play it there.
If they play a WoL game on a random patch, it'd be as good as having them play some StarCraft: Immortal
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 19 2021 18:54 GMT
#47
On February 20 2021 03:49 AbouSV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2021 03:23 Elentos wrote:
On February 20 2021 03:15 AbouSV wrote:
Wait, it says "both BW and SC2" but neither lost temple nor BGH is SC2. Or are they going to play the weirdest SC2 game on a remake of these maps?

(Wiki)Lost Temple?


Yes, but this is not a LotV map, hence the weirdest SC2 game if they still play it there.
If they play a WoL game on a random patch, it'd be as good as having them play some StarCraft: Immortal

I mean whoever organized this was clearly either crazy or not particularly interested so I wouldn't be surprised
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maro
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands134 Posts
February 19 2021 22:43 GMT
#48
For what it’s worth, looks like tastosis is casting it. I wonder whether they’ve had a long-term contract in one way or another, which would explain them not being involved in IEM events.

Nevertheless, this makes it all the more watchable, and I’ll definitely check out a few games. Just having nestea and mvp there alone brings back some memories, and nostalgia seems to be the general theme in gaming these days, anyway, amirite?
I'm gonna get wasted on this sodaaa
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
February 19 2021 23:05 GMT
#49
LET'S GOOO
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Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-19 23:26:07
February 19 2021 23:25 GMT
#50
maybe someone should have told rain and stork that you have to wall off in lotv pvp lol
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51437 Posts
February 19 2021 23:26 GMT
#51
this is definitely pre-recorded; they're just going from game to game way too quickly.
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-19 23:29:37
February 19 2021 23:29 GMT
#52
since its prerecorded, they might as well pick good games (these are subbed)

these are pretty bad
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
February 19 2021 23:37 GMT
#53
"I'll just end the zerg" lol
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
February 19 2021 23:50 GMT
#54
what happened to effort and MVP face ? they look like different people
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Devangel
Profile Joined March 2019
Russian Federation65 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-20 01:12:58
February 20 2021 01:09 GMT
#55
Nice small apetizer before IEM, loved this mini-event! even though i prefer SC2 to BW i found the BW FFA match the most entertaining
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 20 2021 01:12 GMT
#56
Seeing Mvp all grown up actually made me tear up a little. Glad to see he seems to be doing very well. [image loading]
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RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation390 Posts
February 20 2021 11:50 GMT
#57
I feel sad and unsatisfied after watching it. Could be due to current SC2 matches being way better than 10 years ago.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
February 20 2021 13:08 GMT
#58
On February 20 2021 10:12 Wolf wrote:
Seeing Mvp all grown up actually made me tear up a little. Glad to see he seems to be doing very well. [image loading]

I can never forget the King of Wings! One of my favorite players of all time for sure
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Ordiana
Profile Joined February 2021
4 Posts
February 20 2021 13:14 GMT
#59
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Ordiana
Profile Joined February 2021
4 Posts
February 20 2021 13:44 GMT
#60
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Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
February 21 2021 12:29 GMT
#61
I watched the VOD. The event was almost exactly 2 hours. Not a must-watch, but I enjoyed the second game 2vs2 on Lost Temple SC2, the 3vs3 on Big Game Hunters SC1 and the SC1 free-for-all.

What I liked about the event:
- This was a good mix of storied players from both SC1 and SC2 and from all races.
- They did hire Tasteless and Artosis to cast this after all.
- MVP nuking Last in 3vs3 was pretty hype.
- MC's mass Dark Archon strategy in the SC1 free-for-all was great to watch.
- The SC1 free-for-all was really fun to watch.

Things that could be improved:
- This was prerecorded and then cast from replay. Made it less exciting.
- This was not really competitive. Spawn positions were a major factor in 3vs3 and in free-for-all.
- In 2vs2 and in 3vs3, SC1 players dominated SC1 and SC2 players dominated SC2. No surprises here.
- The first 2vs2 was all Protoss. I could not tell players of the same team apart.
- Not getting a supply count in the SC2 free-for-all made the game harder to follow.

2vs2 winners:
Lost temple SC1: + Show Spoiler +
MC/PartinG rush Zealots. Good effort, but it doesn’t work. Stork/Rain win.

Lost temple SC2: + Show Spoiler +
MC/PartinG simply kill their opponents with early Adepts and an Oracle. A very one-sided win against Stork/Rain.

Lost temple SC1: + Show Spoiler +
Last/effort win, but the game is fun to watch. Good effort by MVP/Nestea.

Lost temple SC2: + Show Spoiler +
MVP/Nestea bunker rush and baneling bust Last. effort does counter damage to Nestea with roaches. MVP swoops into Last's base with Banshees. Nestea is taken out by combined efforts of effort/Last, but MVP wins the match with mass Banshees.


3vs3 winners:
Big Game Hunters SC1: + Show Spoiler +
Last/effort/Rain win against MVP/Nestea/MC. The game is somewhat close.

Big Game Hunters SC2: + Show Spoiler +
MVP/Nestea/MC win against Last/effort/Rain in dominating fashion.


Free-for-all winners:
Big Game Hunters SC1: + Show Spoiler +
MC wins.

Big Game Hunters SC2: + Show Spoiler +
effort wins.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 21 2021 16:08 GMT
#62
Thanks for the summary
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 21 2021 16:14 GMT
#63
Thanks a lot for the summary! Super appreciated!
Zest fanboy.
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
February 21 2021 16:29 GMT
#64
Yeesh, Blizzard you sicken me, if you can even be called "Blizzard" nowadays...
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