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aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
480 Posts
February 13 2021 18:29 GMT
#18
Very nice article, good job! ^^
atchosvk
Profile Joined April 2018
55 Posts
February 13 2021 18:57 GMT
#19
On February 13 2021 18:35 BisuDagger wrote:
I feel like Zest, along with the other top Protoss players, had the burden of playing a poorly balance LoTV. Zest, with his great mind as mentioned in the article, lead the pack in exploiting every possible gimmick to help the meta keep Protoss in fashion. However, he never got to take home a championship when he lead the meta shift and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say he would have won a few if the balance in PvZ was there the whole time.


Sad but true.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26603 Posts
February 14 2021 02:00 GMT
#20
Great write up, as ever from you TL writing folk.

If not necessarily the outright best player, Zest surely must go down as one of the best if not the best originator of really tight and refined smart builds.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
February 14 2021 06:54 GMT
#21
I love these blink DT macro games
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa979 Posts
February 14 2021 08:24 GMT
#22
Very good read! Thx!
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
February 14 2021 21:03 GMT
#23
On February 13 2021 08:34 TL.net ESPORTS wrote:
Maybe feardragon was right all along. While Zest's direct rush to DT's and Shadow Stride never became a real meta build, since this kind of rush obviously relies on the element of surprise. However, the concept of mass Blink-DT run-by's in the late-game lived on. Not as a meme, but as a common, reliable technique to destroy the Planetary Fortress expansions of Terran that are otherwise extremely difficult to break. Every top player in the world started using this harassment option in longer PvT games, thanks to Zest’s creative approach.

👀👀👀
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IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
February 14 2021 22:24 GMT
#24
What's the origin of the 'Kingslayer' nickname?
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 15 2021 08:57 GMT
#25
On February 14 2021 11:00 WombaT wrote:
Great write up, as ever from you TL writing folk.


seconded
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 15 2021 08:58 GMT
#26
On February 15 2021 07:24 IndyO wrote:
What's the origin of the 'Kingslayer' nickname?


I think it goes back to his 2014 all kill vs SKT and then subsequent GLS Royal road, where he beat/eliminated a lot of better known and more favoured players, prior to this Zest was not an A list player
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
ZugzwangSC
Profile Joined October 2019
87 Posts
February 15 2021 12:27 GMT
#27
A really great article. Well researched and written. Thank you Seracis and Wax.

Zest rocks!
www.youtube.com/c/zugzwangstarcraft
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 18 2021 08:34 GMT
#28
On February 13 2021 13:17 RKC wrote:
All hail the Clown Prince Ziesta!

HERESY!!!!!!
InvXXVII
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada242 Posts
March 01 2021 01:23 GMT
#29
On February 13 2021 18:26 ExpatRights wrote:
his victory over cure is super flawed. TL won't let me say anything, but watch the match, watch how cure micros and his decision making, and think about if he "was just tired" or what..

User was warned for this post.


Why was this user warned?
A good loser is still a loser.
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
March 01 2021 04:27 GMT
#30
On March 01 2021 10:23 InvXXVII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2021 18:26 ExpatRights wrote:
his victory over cure is super flawed. TL won't let me say anything, but watch the match, watch how cure micros and his decision making, and think about if he "was just tired" or what..

User was warned for this post.


Why was this user warned?


this guy has been accusing cure of matchfixing since that game, he spams every twitch chat with that as well
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States282 Posts
March 01 2021 04:53 GMT
#31
In Chinese sc2 community we call him "王者归来“, literally translated as "the return of the king" which describes Zest's return to unstoppable performance after a period of poor play. However, a lot of times when he played too fancy and appeared to did a lot of damage in early time then lost the game to the opponent's first attack, his nickname changed to ”亡者归来", translated as "the return of the dead", which the character "王" and "亡" have the same pronunciation.

Who would know his next game is king or dead?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 01 2021 09:06 GMT
#32
On March 01 2021 13:53 pzlama333 wrote:
In Chinese sc2 community we call him "王者归来“, literally translated as "the return of the king" which describes Zest's return to unstoppable performance after a period of poor play. However, a lot of times when he played too fancy and appeared to did a lot of damage in early time then lost the game to the opponent's first attack, his nickname changed to ”亡者归来", translated as "the return of the dead", which the character "王" and "亡" have the same pronunciation.

Who would know his next game is king or dead?


This is excellent stuff, perfectly captures Zest. Thanks for posting.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-01 19:39:05
March 01 2021 19:34 GMT
#33
On March 01 2021 13:53 pzlama333 wrote:
In Chinese sc2 community we call him "王者归来“, literally translated as "the return of the king" which describes Zest's return to unstoppable performance after a period of poor play. However, a lot of times when he played too fancy and appeared to did a lot of damage in early time then lost the game to the opponent's first attack, his nickname changed to ”亡者归来", translated as "the return of the dead", which the character "王" and "亡" have the same pronunciation.

Who would know his next game is king or dead?


When you play the game of clowns you win or you die. There is no middle ground.
filewi2233
Profile Joined March 2025
3 Posts
April 09 2025 08:02 GMT
#34
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clutchstarc
Profile Joined April 2025
1 Post
April 12 2025 23:20 GMT
#35
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4532 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-13 06:27:32
April 13 2025 06:23 GMT
#36
Weirdly, I'm grateful for these bots because I get to enjoy posts again that I've totally forgotten about.
hi. big fan.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
April 14 2025 10:52 GMT
#37
On April 13 2025 15:23 FataLe wrote:
Weirdly, I'm grateful for these bots because I get to enjoy posts again that I've totally forgotten about.

Same. It's nice re-reading some of these retrospectives.
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