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Group A looks like the group of death to me. I'm hoping Maru comes back stronger than ever after his injury hiatus. The groups are all so good and can't wait to watch these games!
I think TY will top group 1 since his TvT is just a bit too big brain for the mechanical monsters in Maru and Clem. I don't think Solar or Showtime are favored against him either.
I'm hoping Serral will dominate group B, but Dark and Inno can always make a clean sweep. Still think Serral will top this group relatively easily though.
In group C at first glance I thought Reynor would take it down, but the way Trap has been performing recently is just insane. Zest has also been on fire the last few weeks, so I think depending on how well Reynor prepares for ZvP This group should go Trap>Zest>Reynor or Reynor>Trap>Zest. Excited to see how that plays out. Unfortunately I don't see Heromarine putting up much of a fight against all these Protoss and the American hero Astrea has a mountain to climb to get out of this group. We havn't seen much from him in a while so there is some potential for some excitement.
Stats should take group D with his consistent play. I'm expecting rogue to drop a series he's favored in, but still come out of the group in second.
Of course the seeded players may mix things up quite a bit, but that's where I'm at right now. What are your thoughts?
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On February 12 2021 13:28 Light1082 wrote:
Group A looks like the group of death to me. I'm hoping Maru comes back stronger than ever after his injury hiatus. The groups are all so good and can't wait to watch these games!
I think TY will top group 1 since his TvT is just a bit too big brain for the mechanical monsters in Maru and Clem. I don't think Solar or Showtime are favored against him either.
I'm hoping Serral will dominate group B, but Dark and Inno can always make a clean sweep. Still think Serral will top this group relatively easily though.
In group C at first glance I thought Reynor would take it down, but the way Trap has been performing recently is just insane. Zest has also been on fire the last few weeks, so I think depending on how well Reynor prepares for ZvP This group should go Trap>Zest>Reynor or Reynor>Trap>Zest. Excited to see how that plays out. Unfortunately I don't see Heromarine putting up much of a fight against all these Protoss and the American hero Astrea has a mountain to climb to get out of this group. We havn't seen much from him in a while so there is some potential for some excitement.
Stats should take group D with his consistent play. I'm expecting rogue to drop a series he's favored in, but still come out of the group in second.
Of course the seeded players may mix things up quite a bit, but that's where I'm at right now. What are your thoughts?
I pretty much agree with you.
but i think TY will have problems against Solar, cuz i think his TvZ is his weakness and Solar can performe on a very high lvl in TvZ.
In Group C i think Reynor will take 1. or 2. place. He will be prepared for Katowice, but maybe Trap oder Zest will win a bo3 against him.
In Group D i really hope the "online Cure" shows up. I think he could take Stats down, if he plays 100%. Im feeling Rogue, Cure and Parting coming out of the group. Parting will play some crazy PvPs and somehow beat Stats too.
I hope that Byun will end up in Group B or D...(if he will make it through the ro36).
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France12909 Posts
Hopefully ByuN qualifies and not in group A.
The groups are so stacked it will be madness, may the cross server lag have mercy on us
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On February 11 2021 05:03 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2021 04:42 Waxangel wrote:
Seeding 20 of the spots and picking only 4 from the open bracket (as opposed to 12-12 in previous IEMs) has really made these groups more brutal than ever. Also while being the highest seed usually means you have the advantage that the rest of your group becomes easier, group A has by far the highest EPT point total and Aligulac average if you remove the top seed of every group. Unusual to say the least to have a system that is the worst for the highest seeded player. So I have to assume this was at least partially random draw because this arrangement doesn't seem like the result of any normal seeding system. I thought maybe they just went 1A, 2D, 3B, 4C for 5 rounds but that order doesn't hold up. If this was full random draw (other than maybe player tiers like 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, 17-20) that's hilarious.
It's a bullshit draw.... like bracket rigging.... they still hate the Koreans...
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To get this clear, group A has the top player of each row except Dark?
Also group A has total 10k EPT points while B, C and D have 8,8k, 9,3k and 9,2k? And the average is way off as well.
I would really love to know how this happened.
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On February 12 2021 18:33 DarkGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2021 13:28 Light1082 wrote:
Group A looks like the group of death to me. I'm hoping Maru comes back stronger than ever after his injury hiatus. The groups are all so good and can't wait to watch these games!
I think TY will top group 1 since his TvT is just a bit too big brain for the mechanical monsters in Maru and Clem. I don't think Solar or Showtime are favored against him either.
I'm hoping Serral will dominate group B, but Dark and Inno can always make a clean sweep. Still think Serral will top this group relatively easily though.
In group C at first glance I thought Reynor would take it down, but the way Trap has been performing recently is just insane. Zest has also been on fire the last few weeks, so I think depending on how well Reynor prepares for ZvP This group should go Trap>Zest>Reynor or Reynor>Trap>Zest. Excited to see how that plays out. Unfortunately I don't see Heromarine putting up much of a fight against all these Protoss and the American hero Astrea has a mountain to climb to get out of this group. We havn't seen much from him in a while so there is some potential for some excitement.
Stats should take group D with his consistent play. I'm expecting rogue to drop a series he's favored in, but still come out of the group in second.
Of course the seeded players may mix things up quite a bit, but that's where I'm at right now. What are your thoughts? I pretty much agree with you. but i think TY will have problems against Solar, cuz i think his TvZ is his weakness and Solar can performe on a very high lvl in TvZ..
TY's biggest weakness is definitely TvP. I've seen him struggle against clearly weaker Protosses than Showtime recently.
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On February 12 2021 22:42 deacon.frost wrote:
To get this clear, group A has the top player of each row except Dark?
Also group A has total 10k EPT points while B, C and D have 8,8k, 9,3k and 9,2k? And the average is way off as well.
I would really love to know how this happened.
I have the scary feeling that ByuN will somehow end up in group A as well...
Maybe they had no choice having a group with more EPT points than the rest with the row thing, and it ended up being this group. Of the top 3 players from EU, Clem will have the hardest time to shine: he better hopes Maru is still not at his top, because TY seems to have his number and Solar/ShoWTimE are no slouch. Reynor should qualify comfortably independently of the top protoss performances (Zest / Trap), because he is a bit above HeroMarine / Astrea. Serral will probably top his group or at worse be top 3 as well.
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I'm surprised by the faith in Reynor, He performs poorly for quite some time now (for his standards), don't see him topping the group easily, maybe not even 1-3 place If he is not stepping it up.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On February 12 2021 23:08 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2021 22:42 deacon.frost wrote:
To get this clear, group A has the top player of each row except Dark?
Also group A has total 10k EPT points while B, C and D have 8,8k, 9,3k and 9,2k? And the average is way off as well.
I would really love to know how this happened. I have the scary feeling that ByuN will somehow end up in group A as well... Maybe they had no choice having a group with more EPT points than the rest with the row thing, and it ended up being this group. Of the top 3 players from EU, Clem will have the hardest time to shine: he better hopes Maru is still not at his top, because TY seems to have his number and Solar/ShoWTimE are no slouch. Reynor should qualify comfortably independently of the top protoss performances (Zest / Trap), because he is a bit above HeroMarine / Astrea. Serral will probably top his group or at worse be top 3 as well.
I have the same feeling. To the EPT point thingy - it wouldn't kill them to record the creation of the groups and place it on youtube. It doesn't have to be fancy or anything special.
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BuyN will crush all of'em....unless wrist issues :s
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On February 13 2021 00:54 -KG- wrote:
BuyN will crush all of'em....unless wrist issues :s
He doesn't have them online, so no wrist issues will be encountered. I have spoken! (also it would be the best story if ByuN wins the IEM)
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Good gods this will be a starcraft bloodbath.
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Group A has almost all the highest EPT players for each tier.
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On February 11 2021 05:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Whether Maru has a shot depends less on who is in his group, and more on how his shoulder is doing.
Who cares about Maru. Kid is boring and rich! Huge ego and only plays for the money!
The world needs Clem!
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AMERICA bringing the PAIN
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Name an international tournament where Serral and INnoVation aren't initially in the same group 
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On February 16 2021 16:07 Akio wrote:Name an international tournament where Serral and INnoVation aren't initially in the same group
I like the games where serral and innovation meet 
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So fricking hyped for this! Let's gooooooooooo
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On February 16 2021 16:07 Akio wrote:Name an international tournament where Serral and INnoVation aren't initially in the same group
The WESG that INno won (2018 but played in 2019). They met in the finals though!
But indeed they meet often in groups, at IEM probably 2019 or 2020 already, and many other tournaments.
TIME is also quite unlucky with Serral, meeting him at BlizzCon and probably other tournaments.
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wow Serral so lucky compared to Reynor. group D is definitely group of Death for diversity of races and player styles.
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