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fuglyfrog
United States521 Posts
I thought that they would give the powerful air-to-ground unit to Zerg since that's one of their traditional traits (Guardians) which they could expand on, while Terran have relatively weak air-to-ground but powerful air-to-air and ground-to-air (Goliaths, Turrets, Wraiths, and Valkyries). I want a big old flying bug dropping gallons of acid on helpless little Marines  | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
The terran stuff looks very cool. Although with viking and Thor being walkers, it looks like we have too many walkers.....stalker, immortal, colossus, reaver, archon  , viking, seige tank , and thor. | ||
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tochigi
Japan17 Posts
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fuglyfrog
United States521 Posts
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Duffybeer
China183 Posts
After I saw this, I figured Dustin Browder is an ignorant CNC guy. I have lost faith in Sc2. People like him are the reason why Westwood could never really compete with Blizzard back in 1990's. Ironically Blizzard is hiring the same people from Westwood, and whats more scarey is that, one of those guys is working to the next sucessor of one of Blizzard's most SUCESSFUL franchices ever created. The same guy that created games that could not even hope of even comparing with Diablo or starcraft, is now the lead designer of the next big game of Blizzard. New things deos not mean its going to be okay, OH PLEASE GET BILL ROPER BACK!!!!!!111 I'm not okay, and I can't help but whine I am not happy at all. oh btw is it just me or deos the Reaper look like its a replica of the zone trooper in CNC 3? Also the reaper kind of looks like Batman lol | ||
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Ziel
Malaysia241 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.sc2armory.com/images/terran/preview/misc/04.gif) Photon cannons get a new facelift also it seems. Lol I cant believe terran getting a BAR! ahahahah. EDIT: unindentifid terran thing at 2 oclock in the pic above | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
On July 19 2007 22:12 tochigi wrote: welcomehad to register for this. the new terran stuff is so damn fine. | ||
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nofAcedAgent
United States952 Posts
On July 19 2007 21:47 Phyre wrote: Two kinds of add ons and you can choose to put them on Rax or Factories. Reactor: Lets you build 2 units from attached building (2 marines at once from a rax, 2 vikings from a factory) Tech Center: Allows advanced units to be built (medics from rax, tanks from factory). Man I always thought that add-on building looked like the cloning vat from Red Alert 2. I dont remeber the exact use in that game but it was very simmilar!.. hum Freakin nice find.. | ||
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FatRine
406 Posts
Factory looks kinda bad. And the EDGES under all terran buildings (like a metal floor sticking out) looks awful... | ||
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fuglyfrog
United States521 Posts
On July 19 2007 22:42 FatRine wrote: just as much bad news as good news when they release any information.. i'm still incredibly sceptical of their team.. Factory looks kinda bad. And the EDGES under all terran buildings (like a metal floor sticking out) looks awful... --_______________________-- | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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naventus
United States1339 Posts
You might argue that SC was ripped off from certain existing concepts, but at least at that point they were mostly unique in many regards. Sure Marines and Battlecruisers were in most Sci-Fi, but Ghosts/Wraiths/Vessels are rarer finds. Even the implementation was simple and nonintrusive. But when you start calling things Vikings, Thor, and Cobras, when 50 games have tried the same aesthetic, that makes me wince to think what the standards on the team are. If you can't show any taste when designing and naming your units, how can you possibly expect them to know how to balance it? ---- I DON'T think that a good design team needs to take feedback from users until the game is released/betaed. If you are really good at math/chess (for example), you aren't going to be asking everyone in the audience - oh hey what do you think my next step should be? You have the skill, experience, and taste to do it right and know how to do it. When the SC2 team is making calls like the Soul Hunter and relies on the community to tell them to shove it, there's something wrong with the strength and vision of the team. | ||
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fuglyfrog
United States521 Posts
On July 19 2007 23:10 naventus wrote: I DON'T think that a good design team needs to take feedback from users until the game is released/betaed. If you are really good at math/chess (for example), you aren't going to be asking everyone in the audience - oh hey what do you think my next step should be? You have the skill, experience, and taste to do it right and know how to do it. When the SC2 team is making calls like the Soul Hunter and relies on the community to tell them to shove it, there's something wrong with the strength and vision of the team. They've said that a big part of the process is testing units and that some of what we've seen could and will be changed and discarded and new things added. And how gamers react obviously should also be an important factor. | ||
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
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bagzoo
United States4 Posts
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
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naventus
United States1339 Posts
On July 19 2007 23:11 fuglyfrog wrote: They've said that a big part of the process is testing units and that some of what we've seen could and will be changed and discarded and new things added. And how gamers react obviously should also be an important factor. My point is exactly this. We shouldn't be consulted right now if they had any taste. We don't know any statistics. We don't know all the units in the game. We've seen like 4 Zerg units and have no sense what the game dynamics will be. Yet you think it's a good idea to need our input on what they should do? I think it just means they are off their game or are very misled about what their secret to success is. There are two possibilities here - they schmooze with us to maintain image but really don't listen to too much of our input, or they are horribly incompetent and misled about what a community can do. Pick your poison. | ||
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Robodude
United States52 Posts
On July 19 2007 23:25 bagzoo wrote: oh come on, who cares if they're semi-rip-offs from TSun and CnC?!? only a handfulof people actually play those games.. to the majority of the populace these will be 'new SC2 units'.. You missed the point. No one will complain if they are ripping ideas from really great RTS games. But they seem to be taking (bad) ideas from games that were moderately good but never really achieved the same success as SC. | ||
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fuglyfrog
United States521 Posts
On July 19 2007 23:30 naventus wrote: My point is exactly this. We shouldn't be consulted right now if they had any taste. We don't know any statistics. We don't know all the units in the game. We've seen like 4 Zerg units and have no sense what the game dynamics will be. Yet you think it's a good idea to need our input on what they should do? I think it just means they are off their game or are very misled about what their secret to success is. There are two possibilities here - they schmooze with us to maintain image but really don't listen to too much of our input, or they are horribly incompetent and misled about what a community can do. Pick your poison. The point of my post is that the Soul Hunter got the boot because they weren't up to the standards after testing, not because people on internet forums were bitching. And if you think that feedback from gamers has no place in creating a game then... let's just say I'm glad you don't work for Blizzard. | ||
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