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Reflex
Canada703 Posts
On July 19 2007 22:14 Ziel wrote: ![[image loading]](http://www.sc2armory.com/images/terran/preview/misc/04.gif) Photon cannons get a new facelift also it seems. Lol I cant believe terran getting a BAR! ahahahah. EDIT: unindentifid terran thing at 2 oclock in the pic above Did they also fix up the mineral patch graphics? They seem to look way better now... | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
wow im very happy, i especially like the addon idea makes things very interesting, and producing 2 marines at a time is hot only thing that annoys me about addons is the space they take up, I really wish the addon would be like on top of the building so it didnt take more space or something -_- cobra sounds cool, banshee sounds cool and sounds like much more of a pain to deal with than cloaked wraiths but that's ok .. i like how scvs can go with the command center but planetary fortresss does not sound as sweet but it should be fine as you have to spend money and time to upgrade to one | ||
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caution.slip
United States775 Posts
the thor is just a giant slow moving building, it looks like its severely handicapped by cliffs and ravines and rivers Not to mention you PROBABLY cant fit one into a drop ship However this really goes with the idea of a terran push, they set up tank and turrets and what not, and then they build the thor, all while you helplessly watch and prepare for the devastation that is to come Second note, sensor dome? They said the missile turret was unchanged, which means it should still be a detector, so wtf is the sensor dome for? | ||
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KwarK
United States44397 Posts
On July 19 2007 23:46 fuglyfrog wrote: The point of my post is that the Soul Hunter got the boot because they weren't up to the standards after testing, not because people on internet forums were bitching. And if you think that feedback from gamers has no place in creating a game then... let's just say I'm glad you don't work for Blizzard. How exactly was the Soul Hunter not up to standard? It's their unit, they create its stats and therefore its role. The only thing established about it was the concept and the design, the rest was still entirely in Blizzards hands. Blizzard created both concept and design so I don't see why they'd suddenly U-turn on them unless an important outside input said they were sub-par. The only other explanation is Blizzard designing a unit without noticing they didn't like it. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On July 19 2007 23:58 caution.slip wrote: Thor seems a bit backwards from the progression of the game. The whole game is about mobility and moving up and down ledges and being able to hit and run the thor is just a giant slow moving building, it looks like its severely handicapped by cliffs and ravines and rivers Not to mention you PROBABLY cant fit one into a drop ship However this really goes with the idea of a terran push, they set up tank and turrets and what not, and then they build the thor, all while you helplessly watch and prepare for the devastation that is to come Second note, sensor dome? They said the missile turret was unchanged, which means it should still be a detector, so wtf is the sensor dome for? Its probably cheaper and used for early game to defend from cloaked shit only as opposed to relying on turrets which are actually designed for AA. It is sort of redundant though. I actually agree with a lot of what DuffyBeer said, Why do they take all these ideas and concepts from other games and get rid of the SC1:BW concepts? If it ain't broke don't fix it. | ||
Chosi
Germany1309 Posts
I loved intense games that went on for nearly one hour, but i guess the superweapons will kinda limit this now. I'll give it a try .. but just because I have no other choice (: | ||
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Sudyn
United States744 Posts
Seriously, stfu about all of that. If you don't like the game then don't get it. Don't try to push your biased opinions on those who are genuinely interested in the game. Wanna know what was wrong with CnC 3? It was slow and thus encouraged macrofests and attack-moving armies into each other. You know what Starcraft 2 won't be? Slow. All other aspects aside, CnC was a great RTS that innovated a lot of things for the genre. It just didn't present it properly in the gameplay. If CnC hadn't introduced these things, would you honestly still be complaining? The Mothership is not infallible, Thors can be built en masse given the right funds if need be, etc. Waah waah theorycrafting the worst possible scenario means that the game's going to suck  | ||
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gravity
Australia2330 Posts
I *like* the fact that they're taking various influences from other games/properties as well as improving on pre-existing SC1 stuff. Just because they use one fun idea from another game doesn't mean that SC2 is going to turn into that game, just like how WC3 wasn't that much like SC even though a lot of the basic ideas are the same. | ||
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fuglyfrog
United States521 Posts
On July 20 2007 00:06 Kwark wrote: How exactly was the Soul Hunter not up to standard? It's their unit, they create its stats and therefore its role. The only thing established about it was the concept and the design, the rest was still entirely in Blizzards hands. Blizzard created both concept and design so I don't see why they'd suddenly U-turn on them unless an important outside input said they were sub-par. The only other explanation is Blizzard designing a unit without noticing they didn't like it. Sigh.. From Blizzard: We have a lot of units going into StarCraft 2 right now. Many of these units you have already seen, others you havent had a chance to hear about yet. We have a few rules for our units: 1) A unit should have a cool personality. A unit must be something that is fun to play with. 2) A unit should have their own very unique role on the battlefield. 3) A unit should be fun for the enemy to try to deal with. Generally this means good strengths and interesting weaknesses. Theres a lot more to it of course (how intuitive it is, will it balance well, etc) but thats the basics. Right now we have a lot of units on the Protoss. Not every Protoss unit you have heard about is going to make the cut. They are in training camp. [b]We put them in the game and we see how they do.[b] We compare them to some other units and see how much overlap there is between various units in the game. We compare units that are similar and then we make the call. Which unit is cooler? Which unit has a more unique role? Which unit is more fun to fight against? Sometimes units will get cut. For example, the Soul Hunter is not going to show at Blizzcon. He appears to have failed his training period. He was kind of cool, but not cool enough. Some other units that you have seen are going through some significant changes. They have adapted and may yet survive. Thats how we do it. Being able to try units out before we decide if they are going to be in the game or not is a huge advantage for our development process and its an opportunity that not every developer gets. Well give you more specific information on the Protoss as we figure it out. Even what you see at Blizzcon will be work-in-progress. After Blizzcon things will most definitely continue to evolve. | ||
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caution.slip
United States775 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img2.putfile.com/main/7/20003295938.jpg) does that look like a point defense building from SupCom? | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
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fuglyfrog
United States521 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12816 Posts
Ghost summon marines? Wtf this isn't wc3 where you go HOLY SHIT SUMMON 2 WATER ELEMENTALS... LAME! Marine with health upgrade? Jeez get some creativity, this isn't AOE3 where you go OMG HORSE UPG, add 50% health to calvery units... Oh and CC with scv lift off is great idea. Wtf is banshee? Some sort of bomber? Oh well... Cobra... lawlz change the name plz, other than that if they manuver as well as vult no complaints But I'll see if more special abilities come up, to see all the new options before passing judgement. | ||
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Tiku
18 Posts
On July 20 2007 00:31 caution.slip wrote: does that look like a point defense building from SupCom? The same cannon can be seen in this image, behind the Thor. ![[image loading]](http://www.gamechosun.co.kr/site/data/img_dir/2007/07/20/2007072000001143.gif) I don't really get what Terran need more static defense for with the bunker, turret and siege tank in their arsenal. | ||
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caution.slip
United States775 Posts
they were "great", "lame", "uncreative", "great" "wtf", and "lawlznamesucks" | ||
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quasi -QS-
United States109 Posts
Guess what! CnC has units like that because *gasp* the factions in those games are human! Much how Terran are! If anything Blizzard is stealing ideas from the real world. | ||
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caution.slip
United States775 Posts
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lololol
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
The Reaper concept art looks cool. Cobra looks fine, and so is the name, don't know why a couple of you have a problem with the name. | ||
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