EPTTeam NV announces Maru has a shoulder injury - Page 3
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err0r33
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Miralem Ibrahim
40 Posts
MVP Taeja Byun now Maru. Who is next ? TY. | ||
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HeroSandro
542 Posts
On December 11 2020 10:33 Steelghost1 wrote: As far as I can recall, though I may be wrong, Terran players tend to have more cases. Mvp, Taeja, Maru, Flash, Byun, Boxer, randomrace TLO had it, I think Thorzain as well. Zergs and Protoss may of course have injuries too but it is quite clear at least from the cases we know that Terran players are more likely to develop these issues. Zerg and protoss players are tough as nails, and don't complaint about little things like pain  On a serious note: hope Maru has the patience to take care of the problems, so that it wont became a chronic issue. | ||
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mikedupp
233 Posts
On December 11 2020 18:21 Harris1st wrote: I call BS Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro? I think many players keep their injuries private as well unless it becomes such an issue its impossible to not talk about. | ||
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Steelghost1
43 Posts
On December 11 2020 18:21 Harris1st wrote: I call BS Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro? First of all I already said it was questionable so keep it down calling things BS. And yes I have seen how Zerg and Protosses micro; I am not saying their micro is less intense, just different from a mechanical perspective. I still think Terran is required to do far more box splitting with drastic hand movements. Blink micro, for example, does not require as much boxing selection but more individual unit-clicking one, same goes for spellcaster units. Also it is curious how players from other races are less vocal about their injuries compared to Terran, maybe it is because there actually are less cases out there. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27469 Posts
On December 11 2020 18:21 Harris1st wrote: I call BS Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro? I’d say he’s on the money, by and large. As someone who has had wrist problems from other sources I’ve looked into various ways of alleviating it, some quite successfully (dropped my DPI way down, for example). If you require a mixture of wrist and arm movement for certain mouse movements you spread the load so to speak, vs a high DPI where you’re just moving your wrist over a small range of movement repetitively, and that’s asking for trouble. My wrist issues are primarily in my right hand (my picking hand for guitar), and my mouse hand. Bit of a bummer because my two main loves hobby wise are guitar and RTS games, but I was getting the early warning signs of carpal tunnel, numbness etc so I have to be careful. Anecdotally Terran is playable for me on a casual level, not without discomfort after an hour or two, not much difference between Toss and Zerg. I’d say it’s because you’re constantly boxing as mentioned, splitting and stutter stepping both forwards and backwards. Not that it’s more skilful than the micro the other races but it’s more mechanically repetitive. That said there’s plenty of different ways to have your wrists injured, can be affected by back injuries etc too | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1380 Posts
As for the discussion about those type of injuries in general: It seems like something a lot of SC players (either BW or 2) suffer with in some way. Probably the combination of a very demanding game and the fact that most of them are not in teams anymore, especially if you compare those teams to for example League of Legends. Players just don't get the medical care they need (and deserve) as athletes. And no, I'm not being sarcastic. "Back in the day" no one cared about stuff like that, not even in korea (didn't BoxeR quit SC2 because of an injury?). But now, those guys put themselves in the meat-grinder, without getting cared for properly. You don't see injuries like that in LoL and rarely in CS:GO. Those players seem to be suffering more on the mental side of things, which is also really bad, but that's not the topic here... | ||
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Pentarp
227 Posts
On December 11 2020 18:21 Harris1st wrote: I call BS Have you how Zerg players like Serral, Rogue, Reynor constantly split of single lings for Banelings / Widowmine shots? Or how Parting/ Trap/ Stats do blink Stalker micro? Those are not that common TBH. Because of friendly fire, if a group of lings a-move into a Terran army, its almost as good as splitting them to avoid damage because the mines hit both sides. I've seen both, and that's the point. Zergs can choose to either have a relatively effective a-move or slightly more effective splits. For Terrans, the micro is "do or die" - there is no choice. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On December 11 2020 13:38 Pentarp wrote: I've always felt that Terran is powerful but too demanding. I would advocate for Terran to be at the same power level, or even lower (gasp!), but more accessible - without having insane skills or insane sacrifice of health. Terran is no more demanding than Zerg and Protoss, other than TvT being longer than the other mirror matchups. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27469 Posts
On December 12 2020 13:47 BerserkSword wrote: Terran is no more demanding than Zerg and Protoss, other than TvT being longer than the other mirror matchups. On your wrists though? Really not so sure of that. Skill being distinct from the mechanical demands on one’s body. I don’t think it’s coincidence that high-profile injuries have skewed Terran pretty heavily in SC2, that Mvp played a certain style when his body went etc. I don’t believe BW has as pronounced a skew racially in terms of injuries, I would postulate that’s because constant small boxing is a requirement to play all the races in the game, but it’s way more a Terran thing. In my case partly bad habits in my youth as well but playing hard rock/metal stuff is way, way more taxing on my wrists than playing classical fingerpicked stuff. The latter is as demanding if not more so in a skill/coordination sense but it taxes my wrists way less. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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daruka2073
15 Posts
On December 12 2020 21:31 Morbidius wrote: TeamNV making excuses for Maru, what's next? Jetlag? Oh yea you are the one wrote about a smart post by watching one online tourny, and eventually got dumped by the next tournament in 2 weeks :D | ||
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Darkn3ssFallz
Australia114 Posts
On December 12 2020 11:41 Balnazza wrote: Wasn't Maru carrying around wrist-, arm- and shoulderpain for quite some time now? He is young and has a won a lot of money already, skipping a GSL could have been smart(er), but anyway. As for the discussion about those type of injuries in general: It seems like something a lot of SC players (either BW or 2) suffer with in some way. Probably the combination of a very demanding game and the fact that most of them are not in teams anymore, especially if you compare those teams to for example League of Legends. Players just don't get the medical care they need (and deserve) as athletes. And no, I'm not being sarcastic. "Back in the day" no one cared about stuff like that, not even in korea (didn't BoxeR quit SC2 because of an injury?). But now, those guys put themselves in the meat-grinder, without getting cared for properly. You don't see injuries like that in LoL and rarely in CS:GO. Those players seem to be suffering more on the mental side of things, which is also really bad, but that's not the topic here... I believe he had a doctors appointment several months ago where he was told he should only be playing a maximum of 3 games a day. Was funny to me at the time cos he said it during what ended up being a 2+ hour stream (was mostly typing to chat though/playing customs). Its why I really wanted him to win vs TY when he made the final. | ||
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keaneu
Korea (South)65 Posts
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serralfan18
99 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On December 13 2020 09:42 serralfan18 wrote: Maru to lose against Serral ONLY because of his shoulder. I already know this will happen. The curse of Serral vs Maru states that a BoX series can never happen between them in a Premier tournament. As a result, I am not believing that this match will actually happen until I see it happen. Knowing the curse though, Maru will forfeit due to his injury and we will continue to never see it. | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
On December 13 2020 12:53 Zzoram wrote: The curse of Serral vs Maru states that a BoX series can never happen between them in a Premier tournament. As a result, I am not believing that this match will actually happen until I see it happen. Knowing the curse though, Maru will forfeit due to his injury and we will continue to never see it. bo3 happened in King of Battles where Maru lost 2-1... It is listed as premier in Liquipedia so it happened once. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On December 13 2020 14:17 SamirDuran wrote: bo3 happened in King of Battles where Maru lost 2-1... It is listed as premier in Liquipedia so it happened once. Most probably wouldn't consider those kind of online events to be worthy of the "Premier" tag, despite what liquipedia says. When you have possibly the most mechanically proficient terran and zerg ever, people are not going to be satisfied with a cross server match. Had it been bo7 instead of bo3 it still wouldn't deliver what people want. Even Serral said it's fun but not really a proper meeting. | ||
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