EPTQUOTE]On July 23 2020 05:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate Rotti and any other caster making an effort to keep the viewers up to date on all the matches that are running at the same time!
On July 23 2020 01:20 feardragon wrote:
Here's the thing, I sympathize that not everyone can watch both(or all 4) streams at once. It's not even that you're the minority for not being able to but remember that the majority of viewers either *can* watch multiple streams at once(even the mobile twitch app allows for squad stream viewing so long as you have the internet for it) or the people watching don't care enough to watch both streams.
Ultimately for someone like Rotterdam, it's his job to paint the full picture for the event: that's what he's been hired to do. Things that happen in the other matches are important sometimes to the current ongoing match. For example, when we were toward the end of the group stage, the results of the other matches could change the requirements of what scoreline a player needed in the current match to advance. This paints a different context for that match. It's no longer about just winning because now even taking a single map can change the tide of things and create different expectations & meaning. Maybe a player will play safer knowing that they have to 2-0 their opponent or maybe a player knows they just need one map win so they'll throw out some crazy cheeses just to sneak one in.
I think whenever Rotti brought up other matches, it usually added to things.
Here's the thing, I sympathize that not everyone can watch both(or all 4) streams at once. It's not even that you're the minority for not being able to but remember that the majority of viewers either *can* watch multiple streams at once(even the mobile twitch app allows for squad stream viewing so long as you have the internet for it) or the people watching don't care enough to watch both streams.
Ultimately for someone like Rotterdam, it's his job to paint the full picture for the event: that's what he's been hired to do. Things that happen in the other matches are important sometimes to the current ongoing match. For example, when we were toward the end of the group stage, the results of the other matches could change the requirements of what scoreline a player needed in the current match to advance. This paints a different context for that match. It's no longer about just winning because now even taking a single map can change the tide of things and create different expectations & meaning. Maybe a player will play safer knowing that they have to 2-0 their opponent or maybe a player knows they just need one map win so they'll throw out some crazy cheeses just to sneak one in.
I think whenever Rotti brought up other matches, it usually added to things.
I just wanted to say that I really appreciate Rotti and any other caster making an effort to keep the viewers up to date on all the matches that are running at the same time!
On July 23 2020 01:20 feardragon wrote:
The other thing I'll say is that while I know as a viewer(trust me I've been there) it feels like the casters talk FOREVER between breaks, the reality is we don't actually end up talking that much. If you look at the actual exchanges, we end up basically each saying about 3 things each. Usually the first thing is about the previous game, the second is a bit more open ended to our own choice depending on the situation, and the third thing is about the next upcoming series.There's not always a good chance to sneak in how meaningful the results of some other match was.
Hope that made sense. I am happy people are posting feedback though and even the suggestions I don't agree with tend to come from a place I can understand.
P.S. I'm not speaking on behalf of DreamHack or ESL or anything. I'm only speaking for myself. Also I got a new keyboard and I really wanted to type with it.
The other thing I'll say is that while I know as a viewer(trust me I've been there) it feels like the casters talk FOREVER between breaks, the reality is we don't actually end up talking that much. If you look at the actual exchanges, we end up basically each saying about 3 things each. Usually the first thing is about the previous game, the second is a bit more open ended to our own choice depending on the situation, and the third thing is about the next upcoming series.There's not always a good chance to sneak in how meaningful the results of some other match was.
Hope that made sense. I am happy people are posting feedback though and even the suggestions I don't agree with tend to come from a place I can understand.
P.S. I'm not speaking on behalf of DreamHack or ESL or anything. I'm only speaking for myself. Also I got a new keyboard and I really wanted to type with it.
I respectfully disagree. I just compared the last broadcasts of DH and GSL just to make sure that I am not imagining things, while DH allows the casters to talk for over 6 minutes before a series (followed by a 3 minute break) Tastosis won't even get 3 full minutes before the screen cuts ingame.
One can argue whether 6 minutes is "forever" and my 5 minutes of research is not representative, but I don't think DH giving the casters significantly more screentime is a mere feeling on my part. Though what makes it feel worse in my opinion is DH keeping the camera on the casters while GSL is showing the studio and the players setting up.
One can argue whether 6 minutes is "forever" and my 5 minutes of research is not representative, but I don't think DH giving the casters significantly more screentime is a mere feeling on my part. Though what makes it feel worse in my opinion is DH keeping the camera on the casters while GSL is showing the studio and the players setting up.
GSL is not what you should be comparing this to, you should instead compare it to an offline DH or IEM and then make sure to consider what changing to online might disrupt. For instance, yes in an offline DH there would be player shots of setting up, but that's not really possible online. As for the difference between DH Summer and GSL, the actual organization of things (getting players and spectators in lobby and such) takes a bit longer sometimes. GSL does not have a desk format to begin with, so it would be like if only Rotti and feardragon were on all the time 100%. You could say you find the desk format unnecessary then, since Tastosis do a fine job or TSL worked great without it, but that would be a different conversation I think.
Also, how long are the ads on GSL? Genuine question.
Additionally, and I'm not sure how Afreeca works, but Twitch requires a certain amount of Twitch ads player in their contracts sometimes, so there may be catering there to consider.
but 2 is absolutly doable I feel 
