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ESL Pro Tour rulebook released; new info on GSL?

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-20 10:19:13
February 20 2020 09:49 GMT
#1
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2020-21 ESL Pro Tour

The official rulebook for the 2020-21 ESL Pro Tour has been released on the ESL website (click to read), and it contains information that might reveal the structure and format of Korea's GSL in 2020-21.

Code A returns? Code S to be a sixteen player tournament?

While AfreecaTV have released barely any information on GSL 2020-21, the GSL point distribution outlined in the ESL rulebook points to a significant change in format.

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Points are now awarded to the top 52 players of a "GSL Season," whereas previous only the thirty-two Code S players received points.

Furthermore, the cutoffs for increasing amounts of points occur at 52nd, 40th, 28th, 22nd, and 16th place, but NOT 32nd. This suggests a move away from the old 32-player Code S format. While this could mean that the top-tier of GSL will expand to 52 players, I think it's more likely that it will be divided into a lower-division of 36 players and a top-division of 16 players.

Whether or not AfreecaTV would explicitly divide its competition into "Code A" and "Code S" is unknown, but I assume AfreecaTV would prefer to maintain its well-established "Code [Letter]" branding in any case.

The above changes would corroborate Solar's statements from his recent TL.net interview, where he said Code S would be returning with changes in format, and that "...the competition will be more fierce than last year."

The points table in the rulebook also suggests that the upcoming Super Tournament #1 will award direct spots/seeds in GSL Season 1 to the top four players, while the later Super Tournament #2 will only award points as in previous iterations.
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iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
February 20 2020 09:51 GMT
#2
cant sleep, and am awarded with a potential Code A return after...maybe five years?! Given the environment a Code A and a 16 person Code S makes good sense.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-20 10:02:35
February 20 2020 10:01 GMT
#3
Code A returning would be wild. 2016 was an eternity ago. Are there even 52 players left to fill the spots?
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Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
February 20 2020 10:15 GMT
#4
On February 20 2020 19:01 pvsnp wrote:
Code A returning would be wild. 2016 was an eternity ago. Are there even 52 players left to fill the spots?


Of course, there is. What level those 52 players are doh is what we will have to see
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 20 2020 10:20 GMT
#5
On February 20 2020 19:01 pvsnp wrote:
Code A returning would be wild. 2016 was an eternity ago. Are there even 52 players left to fill the spots?

Solar was talking about more foreigners coming, so, uh, there's the answer you were probably not looking for.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 20 2020 10:26 GMT
#6
This is so hype, does this also mean we might be looking at a flatter prizemoney distribution?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
February 20 2020 10:40 GMT
#7
Also, the IEM China mixed-region event is confirmed for anyone who missed it (this was actually revealed on the initial announcement day, but ESL did a weird thing where additional info trickled out over like a few hours and it got overlooked).
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UncleClimax
Profile Joined January 2020
18 Posts
February 20 2020 10:41 GMT
#8
This sounds good. Nice writeup
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-20 11:45:01
February 20 2020 11:44 GMT
#9
I just decided that me promoting some kind of CodeA-reestablishment in TL-forums for more than a year by now probably sealed the deal.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 20 2020 11:49 GMT
#10
they just need to make sure to install booths in their new jamsildong studio and we're back in 2011 boys yay!

gstl next please
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
February 20 2020 12:10 GMT
#11
Wow even though i was quite skeptical about whether Code A would ever return, it sure is good news if it is true.

Could encourage a few more old timers to return maybe?
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 20 2020 13:51 GMT
#12
Interesting, 52 players is pretty much everyone, may as well give them a bit of the spotlight.
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EvanC
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada130 Posts
February 20 2020 15:01 GMT
#13
I hope NoRegret is casting he's been advocating this for a while and is a great caster, knows all the up-and-coming players too
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
February 20 2020 15:07 GMT
#14
#BringbackWolfdor
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 20 2020 15:38 GMT
#15
On February 20 2020 19:40 Waxangel wrote:
Also, the IEM China mixed-region event is confirmed for anyone who missed it (this was actually revealed on the initial announcement day, but ESL did a weird thing where additional info trickled out over like a few hours and it got overlooked).


Just curious: where did you see that originally?

Wonder what it means that it is for 16 players only, and how they're going to assign the spots.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
February 20 2020 15:40 GMT
#16
On February 20 2020 20:49 Ziggy wrote:
they just need to make sure to install booths in their new jamsildong studio and we're back in 2011 boys yay!

gstl next please

Well they canned the booths because they didn't work so I kinda doubt they'll bring em back.
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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States694 Posts
February 20 2020 15:46 GMT
#17
On February 21 2020 00:07 digmouse wrote:
#BringbackWolfdor


Yesssss
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CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
February 20 2020 15:51 GMT
#18
If they bring back Code A five months after I leave Seoul, I will be equal parts ecstatic and heartbroken. I would totally move back for that though...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
February 20 2020 15:56 GMT
#19
On February 21 2020 00:51 CreightonOlsen wrote:
If they bring back Code A five months after I leave Seoul, I will be equal parts ecstatic and heartbroken. I would totally move back for that though...

Trying to become the next Khaldor now, Creighton?
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-20 15:58:06
February 20 2020 15:57 GMT
#20
On February 21 2020 00:51 CreightonOlsen wrote:
If they bring back Code A five months after I leave Seoul, I will be equal parts ecstatic and heartbroken. I would totally move back for that though...


You can be our new Code A casting baldman ! Khaldor 2.0

Edit: elentos's too fast for me.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
February 20 2020 16:06 GMT
#21
One part of me is highly amused that even a big company like ESL will release a document that's an 8 page PDF where the last page is entirely empty.

If this is really the comeback of Code A, I wonder if this'll end up making the Korean scene look more stagnant than the way it's been until now.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25623 Posts
February 20 2020 16:21 GMT
#22
On February 21 2020 01:06 Elentos wrote:
One part of me is highly amused that even a big company like ESL will release a document that's an 8 page PDF where the last page is entirely empty.

If this is really the comeback of Code A, I wonder if this'll end up making the Korean scene look more stagnant than the way it's been until now.

Invisible ink bro.
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CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
February 20 2020 17:03 GMT
#23
On February 21 2020 00:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2020 00:51 CreightonOlsen wrote:
If they bring back Code A five months after I leave Seoul, I will be equal parts ecstatic and heartbroken. I would totally move back for that though...

Trying to become the next Khaldor now, Creighton?


I gotta hit the gym if I wanna be like Khaldor. But seriously - after covering the GSL qualifiers last season, I was hoping to do the same again this year. Looks like there may be a shakeup though! Excited to see what the announcement is!
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 20 2020 18:09 GMT
#24
Now i hope this means code a, in a pessimistic worldview this just means points for people in the code s qualifiers though.
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
February 20 2020 18:52 GMT
#25
Do you expect this #17-52 part to be played offline? Or better: couldn’t this just be an online portion to reduce the time they need a studio for?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
February 20 2020 19:12 GMT
#26
They probably should have announced all this stuff at least a month ago. Those weekly cup points are a lot more significant with how few points are being given out. Yes, more people qualify to IEM Katowice in 2021 than did past WCS Global Finals, but I feel like there is not going to be a huge difference in terms of points for the people on the cusp.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-20 19:24:54
February 20 2020 19:19 GMT
#27
On February 21 2020 03:52 Swisslink wrote:
Do you expect this #17-52 part to be played offline? Or better: couldn’t this just be an online portion to reduce the time they need a studio for?

Well it's their studio to begin with, better to use it. And I don't think they'll move away from having every part of GSL played offline. Doesn't feel right. Plus if this is in any way meant to create some sort of growth, it'd be good for the less experienced players to get some stage experience. Don't want one of those guys to reach the Ro16 and then just implode when there's a camera on them.

And if you want to assume the worst in people, playing offline also means they can't cheat to win.
On February 21 2020 04:12 Boggyb wrote:
They probably should have announced all this stuff at least a month ago. Those weekly cup points are a lot more significant with how few points are being given out. Yes, more people qualify to IEM Katowice in 2021 than did past WCS Global Finals, but I feel like there is not going to be a huge difference in terms of points for the people on the cusp.

Given that they knew about the format changes, I think it's safe to assume the players also knew about the shift in point distribution. I think at least some of the players the cups will end up relevant for are already playing in them. At the end of the day though, it's 5 cup wins to make up the difference between Code S and (presumably) Code A. You need to win 45 cups to equal a Code S Ro4. So at the end of the day, some players can still be relatively comfortable even if they only perform well in 1 season of GSL.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 20 2020 20:22 GMT
#28
Hurray for Code A!
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seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
February 20 2020 22:25 GMT
#29
I don't remember where I heard it, but I'm pretty sure someone notable said that GSL will have a new studio this year.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
February 21 2020 02:59 GMT
#30
Korean scene is real poor now...Korean love BW more.
Hope it will be better.
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1691 Posts
February 21 2020 03:57 GMT
#31
Need 32 in Code S

Code A level of play is a lot lower and wont attract as many viewers
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 21 2020 07:26 GMT
#32
On February 21 2020 12:57 ShowTheLights wrote:
Need 32 in Code S

Code A level of play is a lot lower and wont attract as many viewers

The Level of play isn t affected by the Name the Tournament has, just saying.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 21 2020 18:30 GMT
#33
On February 21 2020 12:57 ShowTheLights wrote:
Need 32 in Code S

Code A level of play is a lot lower and wont attract as many viewers

you don't need 32 in Code S and I think these new numbers do a better job of making Code S actually prestigious while giving everyone else a chance to qualify.

Before it really seemed like 32 of the 40ish potential players in Korea were making it every season and leaving just a handful out. Now basically everyone good will get in and leave some room for some up-and-comers if they exist anymore
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
February 21 2020 19:53 GMT
#34
On February 20 2020 20:49 Ziggy wrote:
they just need to make sure to install booths in their new jamsildong studio and we're back in 2011 boys yay!

gstl next please


While somehow getting EGTL back in it as well.
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 21 2020 19:58 GMT
#35
On February 22 2020 04:53 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2020 20:49 Ziggy wrote:
they just need to make sure to install booths in their new jamsildong studio and we're back in 2011 boys yay!

gstl next please


While somehow getting EGTL back in it as well.


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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
February 21 2020 21:43 GMT
#36
On February 21 2020 00:46 ThunderJunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2020 00:07 digmouse wrote:
#BringbackWolfdor


Yesssss


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Werwolf
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation31 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-25 23:46:45
February 25 2020 23:46 GMT
#37
Still no official GSL anouncement ...
A year ago by this time 1st group stage had already been completed
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
February 25 2020 23:56 GMT
#38
Considering the Coronavirus situation and the delay of the GSL Super Tournament, Season 1 probably won't start until April at the earliest.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
February 26 2020 10:15 GMT
#39
Also this Season ends in exactly one year with Katowice 2021, so there is plenty of time
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