I've spent much of my time as a StarCraft II fan asking myself "why do we suck?"
For years, the question was directed at the United States, which couldn't seem to produce a true world-class player despite having the biggest user base in all of StarCraft. Even if we counted dual-citizen HuK as American, and even if we narrowed our scope to when was IdrA at the very peak of his brief prime, the USA was never truly relevant until Neeb switched to Protoss. I've also asked the question of New York City, a city so bad at StarCraft II that the semi-retired Axslav became our best player OF ALL TIME when he moved here to work for MLG in 2012.
The first few years of Legacy of the Void must have been a trying time for Chinese fans of StarCraft II. The new expansion coincided with the introduction of the current 'hard' region-lock system in WCS, giving talented players from all over the world a chance to shine. And I'm not just talking about the obvious championship-tier players like Neeb (USA), Reynor (Italy), and Serral (Finland)—we've also seen players like Kelazhur (Brazil), Lambo (Germany), and Has (Taiwan) reach BlizzCon when they would never have had a chance in the past.
China was left out on the fun. For a while, the occasional playoff appearance by TooDMing or iAsonu was their best result in WCS Circuit events. Even WESG, the 'Olympics-style' event hosted in China, was unable to be a showcase for local talent as WCG had been in the past.
What's particularly confounding is that it wasn't always this way. In fact, older Chinese fans would rightfully bristle at my prior USA comparison ("How dare YOU pity us!"). Before Legacy of the Void, China was one of the few non-Korean countries to have its flag represented on the podium of major tournaments, the occasional spot of red in a sea of Taegukki's. Loner was the runner-up in the first BlizzCon invitational at 2010, while XiGua finished runner-up at WCG 2011. Jim and MacSed were among the few non-Korean players able to reach the playoffs in the pre-region-lock WCS America. Even China if never produced a contender on the level of Stephano, Scarlett, or NaNiwa, it was still very much a respectable StarCrafting nation. [Another reason that China's lack of success in LotV was so perplexing is because of some info Blizzard dropped a couple of years back at a StarCraft II community summit: China had, by a large margin, the largest player base in the game.]
Regardless of the cause of the problem, the solution for China ended up being the same as in every other country that languished in StarCraft mediocrity: wait until a kid with really fast hands decides he likes StarCraft II. And thus, TIME.
Like many of the other players to bear the prodigy tag, TIME didn't come from out of nowhere to earn a Global Finals spot. Back in 2016, he achieved a top four in China's GPL at the age of fifteen, the start of a long and successful career in his domestic scene. Before he ever had a main-stage game in a WCS Circuit event, TIME had already earned several podium finishes in China–including a championship at the age of seventeen.
The thing is, we're a cynical bunch here in the StarCraft II scene. We know that while the fifteen-year-old can grow up to be Serral, sometimes he just ends up being Xenocider (if you feel bad that I've committed a drive-by shooting on innocent bystander Xenocider, don't be—last I heard, he's doing quite alright for himself as a poker player). So when TIME continued to win domestic tournaments and qualifiers, it was easy to brush him off as a big fish in China's mysteriously small pond. When he broke into the Ro32 of Code S in 2017, it seemed more indicative of the shallow player pool in Korea than of TIME's skill.
That's what made TIME's top-four run at WCS Montreal 2018 a pleasant surprise for not just Chinese fans, but for anyone who cared about StarCraft II. It was further affirmation that we lived in a vibrant ecosystem where new stars could be born in any tournament, and that national heroes could attain international success with continued experience. TIME's crushing, 3-0 quarterfinal win over HeRoMaRinE—the new symbol of consistency in WCS—emphatically locked in the best ever result for a Chinese player in a WCS branded event.
At the same time, one had to wonder if it would be a one-time miracle, similar to that of Has or MaNa earlier that year. TIME had been going through a domestic league slump at the time, and had attended Montreal as a open-bracket player after failing to qualify from China's Challenger League/GPL in two consecutive seasons. Furthermore, his brutal 0-3 loss to Reynor in the semifinals seemed confirm his place in the "everyone else" group of the rising stars hierarchy (the hierarchy went like this: [Reynor] >>>> [everyone else]).
But instead of regressing back into the middle of the pack, TIME took major strides forward as a player in WCS 2019. With a top four at WCS Winter: America, and top eight finishes at the remaining three circuit events, TIME locked in his WCS Global Finals spots as one of the most consistently strong players of the year (maybe when he defeated HeRoMaRinE at WCS Montreal 2018, he absorbed his abilities, Megaman-style). That consistency also showed up in domestic leagues, where he raised the floor of his play and avoided upsets, winning three out of four Chinese Challenger tournaments on the year.
But what about raising the ceiling? In that regard, WCS Circuit tournaments were a disappointment for TIME. Much like in domestic competitions, TIME didn't seem to have trouble beating opponents he was 'supposed' to, taking out players such as Clem, Astrea, and Harstem on his way top eight finishes. Unfortunately, he also lost to everyone he was supposed to, and was eliminated by Serral, ShoWTimE, and Neeb (and even MaSa at WCS Winter: AM). If you had only watched WCS Circuit tournaments this year, you'd expect TIME to arrive at the AfreecaTV studio for the Global Finals, happily collect his $10,000 for showing up, and get torn limb-from-limb by Maru, Serral, and Stats.
And really, that would probably have been enough to satisfy the expectations of most fans, Chinese or otherwise. Personally, I'd have been happy that one more national fanbase got a chance to cheer for something more than just great StarCraft II during the Global Finals, even if it was just for two matches. I'd have been glad that after BlizzCon, they'd be able to watch their country in Nation Wars with a modicum of hope instead of overwhelming dread. For a year's worth of work, that seemed like a reasonable gain.
The beauty of StarCraft II is that sometimes, a single series can be all that it takes to inspire us, and overcharge our realistic expectations with blind hope. In the case of TIME, that transformative series came against none other than Serral in the quarterfinals of ASUS ROG/Assembly Summer 2019.
It's one of those rare series where both players end up looking fantastic, regardless of who wins or loses. For TIME, the collective realization was "wait, he's that good?" (For Serral, it was also "wait, he's THAT good?") TIME's ability to pressure Serral in the mid-game with his micro, macro, and multi-tasking mechanics made him look on par, or even better than any Korean Terran. It was a testament to Serral's tenacity that he squeezed out a 3-2 victory in the end, but it seemed like any other Zerg in the world would have crumbled.
It's rare in StarCraft II that we get an immediate 'wait, was that for real?' check on demand. In this case, we cleaned off our glasses and saw that TIME was, indeed, for real when he 3-0'd soO at GSL vs. The World. Even if soO was much diminished from his IEM Katowice-winning form, it was confirmation enough for our hopes.
And really, it's those two series that will be at the forefront of our minds at TIME heads into a potential group of death at the Global Finals. Not the good-but-not-great he showed on the WCS Circuit, and not the many disappointing outings in the China Team Championship—just those two series. Because while us StarCraft II fans can be a cynical bunch, if you show us a glimpse of greatness, we want nothing more than to see it again.
First time at the Global Finals and possibly placed in the most deadly group of death in WCS history, and people wonder why sc2 doesn't attract new players.
But seriously, this release order is confusing me.
On October 15 2019 13:40 yht9657 wrote: First time at the Global Finals and possibly placed in the most deadly group of death in WCS history, and people wonder why sc2 doesn't attract new players.
But seriously, this release order is confusing me.
there is no order, it's literally as fast as they can get written XD
im glad the grand conspiracy theories were able to entertain you guys for a few days tho ^_^
On October 15 2019 13:40 yht9657 wrote: First time at the Global Finals and possibly placed in the most deadly group of death in WCS history, and people wonder why sc2 doesn't attract new players.
But seriously, this release order is confusing me.
there is no order, it's literally as fast as they can get written XD
im glad the grand conspiracy theories were able to entertain you guys for a few days tho ^_^
With Classic/TY's article being last in hopes of avoiding having to write an extra article?
hi,wax,I hope you could replace the "China was left out on the fun" with "China PR was left out on the fun" in the second paragraph so as to avoid unnecessary trouble.
If Classic can get the ticket,let's see TIME's group: 1,The best Zerg in the world 2,The best Terren in the world 3,The best Protoss in the world 4,TIME... RIP
On October 15 2019 15:03 7miles wrote: If Classic can get the ticket,let's see TIME's group: 1,The best Zerg in the world 2,The best Terren in the world 3,The best Protoss in the world 4,TIME... RIP
True but is Classic can't then it looks quite a bit better, we know he's got a shot at soO. maybe even favored? If he can take soO down he "just" has to win one BO3 against TY or Serral. Not easy but it wouldn't really be a miracle either.
On October 15 2019 15:03 7miles wrote: If Classic can get the ticket,let's see TIME's group: 1,The best Zerg in the world 2,The best Terren in the world 3,The best Protoss in the world 4,TIME... RIP
On October 15 2019 15:03 7miles wrote: If Classic can get the ticket,let's see TIME's group: 1,The best Zerg in the world 2,The best Terren in the world 3,The best Protoss in the world 4,TIME... RIP
True but is Classic can't then it looks quite a bit better, we know he's got a shot at soO. maybe even favored? If he can take soO down he "just" has to win one BO3 against TY or Serral. Not easy but it wouldn't really be a miracle either.
Amazing article, Time will maybe have one more shotto prove he's for realy by eliminating the world champ or vice-worls champ at Blizzcon. Also, is Wax gonna do them all this year? If so kuddos to you!
Time edges out Maru by getting a lucky early scout on a double proxy rax and then beating some weird mech all in that doesn’t quite work.
Time then beats Serral with straight up bio play simply out multi tasking him and displaying superior mechanics. Last time they played, Time won every game that’s was played as traditionally intended (multi prong bio). Time lost with weird mech builds, but when Serral tried to match him with straight up multi task mechanics he wasn’t up for it. This time, Time learns his lesson, plays bio every game and only drops one game to Serral.
On October 15 2019 13:40 yht9657 wrote: First time at the Global Finals and possibly placed in the most deadly group of death in WCS history, and people wonder why sc2 doesn't attract new players.
But seriously, this release order is confusing me.
It's the same random order they applied last year. Someone made sense of it then. I think it was something to do with chronological order of the "time in the year of their breakout performance"... but yeah, random!
On October 15 2019 13:40 yht9657 wrote: First time at the Global Finals and possibly placed in the most deadly group of death in WCS history, and people wonder why sc2 doesn't attract new players.
But seriously, this release order is confusing me.
there is no order, it's literally as fast as they can get written XD
im glad the grand conspiracy theories were able to entertain you guys for a few days tho ^_^
On October 15 2019 22:03 General_Winter wrote: Time edges out Maru by getting a lucky early scout on a double proxy rax and then beating some weird mech all in that doesn’t quite work.
Time then beats Serral with straight up bio play simply out multi tasking him and displaying superior mechanics. Last time they played, Time won every game that’s was played as traditionally intended (multi prong bio). Time lost with weird mech builds, but when Serral tried to match him with straight up multi task mechanics he wasn’t up for it. This time, Time learns his lesson, plays bio every game and only drops one game to Serral.
Time advances 2-0
Actually, Classic is forbidden from playing due to military. Maru gets moved up a group and soO joins the group of death, where he is 2-0'd by TIME in the same way he was at GSL vs the World. He also 2-1s Serral because he still tries a funky mech play on map 2 after going up 1-0
I love TIME but he's been really overrated this year. He had a couple close series against a Serral who was playing far below his standard, and still lost.
Don't see any chance for him getting out of his ro16 group here
On October 15 2019 22:03 General_Winter wrote: Time edges out Maru by getting a lucky early scout on a double proxy rax and then beating some weird mech all in that doesn’t quite work.
Remember when TIME got a build order win vs Maru's double proxy rax and still lost?
On October 15 2019 22:03 General_Winter wrote: Time edges out Maru by getting a lucky early scout on a double proxy rax and then beating some weird mech all in that doesn’t quite work.
Time then beats Serral with straight up bio play simply out multi tasking him and displaying superior mechanics. Last time they played, Time won every game that’s was played as traditionally intended (multi prong bio). Time lost with weird mech builds, but when Serral tried to match him with straight up multi task mechanics he wasn’t up for it. This time, Time learns his lesson, plays bio every game and only drops one game to Serral.
so from what i hear the first stage of this tournament is in Seoul, then the rest at Blizzcon in California, right?
so they're flying a bunch of people to South Korea and then from there to California for what reason exactly? seems like a huge waste of money, a lot of jetlag for the players involved and, most importantly, quite a bit of unecessary damage to the world's climate.
On October 15 2019 23:35 Schelim wrote: so from what i hear the first stage of this tournament is in Seoul, then the rest at Blizzcon in California, right?
so they're flying a bunch of people to South Korea and then from there to California for what reason exactly? seems like a huge waste of money, a lot of jetlag for the players involved and, most importantly, quite a bit of unecessary damage to the world's climate.
On October 15 2019 23:35 Schelim wrote: so from what i hear the first stage of this tournament is in Seoul, then the rest at Blizzcon in California, right?
so they're flying a bunch of people to South Korea and then from there to California for what reason exactly? seems like a huge waste of money, a lot of jetlag for the players involved and, most importantly, quite a bit of unecessary damage to the world's climate.
They fly less people that way you know.
Not really, they still fly 16 people
I guess they need to buy less total flights. But some of those flights are one-way tickets, so I doubt much, if anything, is saved. Also, Neeb's flight is waaaayyyy more expensive this way
On October 15 2019 23:35 Schelim wrote: so from what i hear the first stage of this tournament is in Seoul, then the rest at Blizzcon in California, right?
so they're flying a bunch of people to South Korea and then from there to California for what reason exactly? seems like a huge waste of money, a lot of jetlag for the players involved and, most importantly, quite a bit of unecessary damage to the world's climate.
They fly less people that way you know.
Not really, they still fly 16 people
I guess they need to buy less total flights. But some of those flights are one-way tickets, so I doubt much, if anything, is saved. Also, Neeb's flight is waaaayyyy more expensive this way
They fly less than 8 to Korea since Special already lives there (and TIME is probably also in Korea most of the time). Blizzard's big brain plan has eluded you
On October 16 2019 06:17 Dave4 wrote: I like Time, but he really has a rough group, and I'll probably be rooting for Serral & Classic. But I hope he shows some great play.
On October 15 2019 22:03 General_Winter wrote: Time edges out Maru by getting a lucky early scout on a double proxy rax and then beating some weird mech all in that doesn’t quite work.
Remember when TIME got a build order win vs Maru's double proxy rax and still lost?
Are you talking about GSL vs the World, China Team Championship, or WESG?
Maru has opened double proxy rax reaper in roughly 50% of the tournament games he's ever played against TIME, gotten blind countered several times, and won most of the games he's gotten blind countered.
On October 15 2019 23:35 Schelim wrote: so from what i hear the first stage of this tournament is in Seoul, then the rest at Blizzcon in California, right?
so they're flying a bunch of people to South Korea and then from there to California for what reason exactly? seems like a huge waste of money, a lot of jetlag for the players involved and, most importantly, quite a bit of unecessary damage to the world's climate.
If you don't let Thunberg know then it's fine. Also, with 8 Korean players plus those who are already in Korea, you fly less than eight people for the ro16. Then you fly 8 ppl to Anaheim for ro8. That's less than flying all of 16 ppl to California.
On October 15 2019 15:49 Akio wrote: Yeah, TIME is a great player but if the standings stay how they are right now there is no way he is getting out of that group.
Here is another say: As most world players have little chance to go to RO8,if TIME will be out anyway, it is happy to be together with a top player(maru I guess.XD)
On October 15 2019 23:35 Schelim wrote: so from what i hear the first stage of this tournament is in Seoul, then the rest at Blizzcon in California, right?
so they're flying a bunch of people to South Korea and then from there to California for what reason exactly? seems like a huge waste of money, a lot of jetlag for the players involved and, most importantly, quite a bit of unecessary damage to the world's climate.
If you don't let Thunberg know then it's fine. Also, with 8 Korean players plus those who are already in Korea, you fly less than eight people for the ro16. Then you fly 8 ppl to Anaheim for ro8. That's less than flying all of 16 ppl to California.
well, point taken actually. i hadn't thought about it that way.
Not a biggest fan of TIME, but in contemporary overall circumstances it wouldn't be necessarily the worst thing for the SC2 if TIME would surpass every expectations and win The Blizzcon.
20 million new Chinese players would emerge onto a ladders soon after trying to follow their great idol.
For we chinese fans, we are so happy to see that, here are some interesting comments from Chinese sc2 forum: 1. Time seems to entered the finals in advance---3 times 2. Whoever will be out with Time in this group, we will say:'See--Time is as strong as Serral/Maru/Stats(LOL) 3. Do you know in Chinese sc2 forum, they made funny pictures for groupB Maru-THE GOD OF OBELISK Stats-THE SUN OF GOD DRAGON Serral-SAINT DRAGON-THE GOD OF OSIRIS Time-Lava Battleguard
On October 15 2019 14:32 rec2 wrote: hi,wax,I hope you could replace the "China was left out on the fun" with "China PR was left out on the fun" in the second paragraph so as to avoid unnecessary trouble.
On October 15 2019 13:40 yht9657 wrote: First time at the Global Finals and possibly placed in the most deadly group of death in WCS history, and people wonder why sc2 doesn't attract new players.
I just checked liquipedia. Holy cow you weren't kidding. That's a one for the ages. Crazy to think that one of Maru, Stats, and Serral will be out in group stages.
On October 17 2019 11:23 Romdo wrote: For we chinese fans, we are so happy to see that, here are some interesting comments from Chinese sc2 forum: 2. Whoever will be out with Time in this group, we will say:'See--Time is as strong as Serral/Maru/Stats(LOL)