EPTOn July 27 2019 20:45 Drfilip wrote:
Afreeca is a Korean company. The tournament is set in Korea. Korea is a country that does not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state. I think it was the South Korean police that was intended.
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On July 27 2019 04:19 MrFreeman wrote:
I don't know which police he's meant, Blizzard is an US company, so I've assumed it was US police. I'm neither US citizen nor resident and never suggested US police has international jurisdiction.
On July 26 2019 20:07 yht9657 wrote:
Well it may sound surprising to you but US police doesn't have authority over the entire world
On a serious note that's not gonna happen because this is a Blizzard tournament and if Blizzard wants to keep doing business in China they're gonna respect the Chinese law which doesn't recognise Taiwan as a sovereign state, and yes the Chinese scene is not bigger than the rest of the foreign scene but I wonder what makes you think those 175 countries who don't recognise Taiwan would join this protest.
On July 26 2019 19:14 MrFreeman wrote:
I'm quite sure that US police wouldn't care that someone shows a tiny Taiwanese flag next to player's name or displays the word Taiwan, especially, since there is, to my knowledge, no law forbidding it.
As for the backlash, Chinese scene is big, but not nearly as big as the rest of the foreign scene, so I think they'd chose the lesser backlash. Either way, I doubt it will sufficient support and I'm afraid we are going way too off topic, just wanted to voice my disagreement
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On July 26 2019 19:01 Acrofales wrote:
No, the GSL wouldn't change it. They'd get into trouble with the police. And the government isn't going to recognize Taiwan, because China is far too important to anger.
On July 26 2019 18:54 MrFreeman wrote:
I get why they are doing it, but I think it is ok to point it out and disagree. In fact, I think if everybody was complaining, not that that is very realistic, they would change it.
Yes, TIME is really good, this year, China would have probably gotten their representative in a legit way, but because the rules aren't same for everyone, we won't find out.
I guess we will not agree on heromarine's personality, I don't like players who don't respect their opponents, but I see how it could increase the excitement. I'd rather get the excitement from not knowing who will get in...
On July 26 2019 07:04 Elentos wrote:
Well what can you do, the company isn't from one of the 18 countries that recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state.
On July 26 2019 07:02 MrFreeman wrote:
And they also hide Taiwanese flag every year and I dislike it every year.
On July 26 2019 07:01 Elentos wrote:
They invite the #1 Chinese player every year. Probably, but I have no evidence that that's the factual reason, because they're scared China would flood the polls.
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
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I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.
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I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.
They invite the #1 Chinese player every year. Probably, but I have no evidence that that's the factual reason, because they're scared China would flood the polls.
And they also hide Taiwanese flag every year and I dislike it every year.
Well what can you do, the company isn't from one of the 18 countries that recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state.
I get why they are doing it, but I think it is ok to point it out and disagree. In fact, I think if everybody was complaining, not that that is very realistic, they would change it.
On July 26 2019 11:02 vult wrote:
They invite a Chinese player because of the potential boon the tournament can get form a Chinese player being there, viewer wise. Guaranteeing a Chinese player probably has a statistical benefit greater than that of an additional spot to another EU foreigner would.
Plus, TIME deserves the spot. He’s in great shape right now, and is a great representative for the Chinese scene.
Also, Big Gabe has a fine personality. He speaks his mind and says it like he sees it. We need more of that, or else every player is just Alphastar incarnate.
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?
I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.
They invite a Chinese player because of the potential boon the tournament can get form a Chinese player being there, viewer wise. Guaranteeing a Chinese player probably has a statistical benefit greater than that of an additional spot to another EU foreigner would.
Plus, TIME deserves the spot. He’s in great shape right now, and is a great representative for the Chinese scene.
Also, Big Gabe has a fine personality. He speaks his mind and says it like he sees it. We need more of that, or else every player is just Alphastar incarnate.
Yes, TIME is really good, this year, China would have probably gotten their representative in a legit way, but because the rules aren't same for everyone, we won't find out.
I guess we will not agree on heromarine's personality, I don't like players who don't respect their opponents, but I see how it could increase the excitement. I'd rather get the excitement from not knowing who will get in...
No, the GSL wouldn't change it. They'd get into trouble with the police. And the government isn't going to recognize Taiwan, because China is far too important to anger.
I'm quite sure that US police wouldn't care that someone shows a tiny Taiwanese flag next to player's name or displays the word Taiwan, especially, since there is, to my knowledge, no law forbidding it.
As for the backlash, Chinese scene is big, but not nearly as big as the rest of the foreign scene, so I think they'd chose the lesser backlash. Either way, I doubt it will sufficient support and I'm afraid we are going way too off topic, just wanted to voice my disagreement
.Well it may sound surprising to you but US police doesn't have authority over the entire world
On a serious note that's not gonna happen because this is a Blizzard tournament and if Blizzard wants to keep doing business in China they're gonna respect the Chinese law which doesn't recognise Taiwan as a sovereign state, and yes the Chinese scene is not bigger than the rest of the foreign scene but I wonder what makes you think those 175 countries who don't recognise Taiwan would join this protest.
I don't know which police he's meant, Blizzard is an US company, so I've assumed it was US police. I'm neither US citizen nor resident and never suggested US police has international jurisdiction.
Afreeca is a Korean company. The tournament is set in Korea. Korea is a country that does not recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state. I think it was the South Korean police that was intended.
Oh, I see, I was talking about Blizzard events in general, I don't know nearly enough about South Korea to comment on that.
