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GSL vs. The World: Team World Vote (2019) - Page 5

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
July 25 2019 22:04 GMT
#81
On July 26 2019 07:02 MrFreeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 07:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?


I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.

They invite the #1 Chinese player every year. Probably, but I have no evidence that that's the factual reason, because they're scared China would flood the polls.


And they also hide Taiwanese flag every year and I dislike it every year.

Well what can you do, the company isn't from one of the 18 countries that recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 25 2019 22:16 GMT
#82
On July 26 2019 03:42 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?



Time might just be the 2nd best foreign terran acutally. its between him, heromarine and uthermal. results wise, its probably uthermal, but cmon, Time is so much better than anyone else in china, inviting him should be a given

What results?

Special, TIME, & HeRoMaRinE is the pretty clear top-3.
why even
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
July 25 2019 22:25 GMT
#83
Here’s my voting and it’s reasoning:

Korea:

INnoVation - GSL hasn’t been kind to him this year, that is true. But he had a runner up finish at HomeStory Cup XVIII and won a premier tournament this year in WESG, beating Serral. I really do like TY but since BlizzCon what has he REALLY done?

soO: This is an easy sell. He won IEM Katowice. He clearly is the “2nd best” performing Korean Zerg this year. Rogue has done next to nothing since BlizzCon so he never entered my mind as a viable choice.

Trap: Honestly, this man deserved to be seeded. Two GSL Top fours plus a decent Katowice run, top four in KR points. There’s no other right choice. Stats would’ve been the option if Trap had been seeded, but his accomplishments are not as impressive this year.

WORLD:

HeRoMaRinE: The best European Terran, he’s consistently gotten deep at every WCS Event and has proven he can hold his own with the Koreans. (Honestly I kinda want to see him go against Dark just for the explosion of ego in the studio between the two 😂)

Reynor: There’s really no other choice here. Actually stop and think about this: Reynor has won more Circuit titles than Serral in 2019. Nuff said. My runner up would be Scarlett - 2 GSL entries, top 8 in Summer, runner up in Winter and top four in WESG.

ShoWTimE: As I said earlier there’s not much to pick from in World Protoss after Neeb. I chose him because he’s done better, he is in the top 8 of WCS currently and had a decent showing at WCS Summer. But in truth World Protoss candidates feel like a participation trophy. But I felt he was clearly the most viable of the candidates.

TIME absolutely is a top tier Terran, he is #5 in Circuit standings and it’s one of the few times China has a player worthy of our attention. This isn’t like last year when Cyan got in which felt like a joke. TIME is more than worthy to participate here, and that’s my take on him. It’s nice that he actually has a resume to warrant the invite.



Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 25 2019 22:28 GMT
#84
On July 26 2019 07:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?


I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.

They invite the #1 Chinese player every year. Probably, but I have no evidence that that's the factual reason, because they're scared China would flood the polls.


Well, China is essentially a separate region with their own server and events, it's fine that they have their own invite.
As you say, TIME is easily a top8 foreigner at the moment.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-25 22:49:45
July 25 2019 22:36 GMT
#85
On July 26 2019 07:25 StarcraftSquall wrote:
Korea:

INnoVation - GSL hasn’t been kind to him this year, that is true. But he had a runner up finish at HomeStory Cup XVIII and won a premier tournament this year in WESG, beating Serral. I really do like TY but since BlizzCon what has he REALLY done?

Well, let's see, same in GSL as Inno (though TY has room for improving while Inno is done for the year). Only Terran in the playoffs at Katowice. Coincidentally also a runner-up finish at HSC. They both won offline tournaments in China that nobody actually cares about. And then Inno has won WESG while TY got a few minor wins in the off-season.

So basically they've both spent a long time not living up to their names but Inno won WESG. And the main reason to vote for TY is actually just to meme about a GSL caster defending the honor of GSL by himself. Just imagine being that guy who goes to GSL vs The World to represent the World and they send a caster to face you
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
July 26 2019 00:44 GMT
#86
Go go uThermal!
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-26 02:04:57
July 26 2019 02:02 GMT
#87
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?


I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.


They invite a Chinese player because of the potential boon the tournament can get form a Chinese player being there, viewer wise. Guaranteeing a Chinese player probably has a statistical benefit greater than that of an additional spot to another EU foreigner would.

Plus, TIME deserves the spot. He’s in great shape right now, and is a great representative for the Chinese scene.

Also, Big Gabe has a fine personality. He speaks his mind and says it like he sees it. We need more of that, or else every player is just Alphastar incarnate.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
July 26 2019 04:55 GMT
#88
Scarlett post this vote on weibo(Chinese Twitter).
I think she will exceed Reynor.
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
October34th
Profile Joined July 2019
7 Posts
July 26 2019 05:25 GMT
#89
噶姐冲冲冲!
We love Scarlett~
新潮 New Tide
ma386654112
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
July 26 2019 05:35 GMT
#90
i am just saying here
i will not watching this if scarlett failed attend
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 26 2019 05:51 GMT
#91
On July 26 2019 14:35 ma386654112 wrote:
i am just saying here
i will not watching this if scarlett failed attend


Once them sweet Chinese vote start pouring in shell probably end up surpassing Reynor
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 26 2019 05:54 GMT
#92
I gues everyone hast to Vote for Reynor now, so he gets highest second after Scarlett. If this poll is run over by Scarlett fanboys and Reynor isn t going to GSLvsWorld, it d be a pretty sad day. I get what people saying about Harstem and uThermal deserving it. But Reynor is just so much better than anyone you can vote for in Worlds Team.
MaxPax
MoDiV
Profile Joined July 2019
United States90 Posts
July 26 2019 06:02 GMT
#93
On July 26 2019 14:54 dbRic1203 wrote:
I gues everyone hast to Vote for Reynor now, so he gets highest second after Scarlett. If this poll is run over by Scarlett fanboys and Reynor isn t going to GSLvsWorld, it d be a pretty sad day. I get what people saying about Harstem and uThermal deserving it. But Reynor is just so much better than anyone you can vote for in Worlds Team.


even if Scarlett does end up surpassing him in voting, Reynor still has a big lead over both harstem and uthermal and i doubt either of them pass him, so either he's making it as the vote leader or the wild card. I think it's safe to say that Reynor makes it to gsl vs the world
Carbon1
Profile Joined July 2018
3 Posts
July 26 2019 07:18 GMT
#94
...Seems like the links in the official blizzard post from July 24th are directing to the wrong teamliquid posts ( http://blizz.ly/KOREAVOTE and http://blizz.ly/WORLDVOTE )




https://news.blizzard.com/en-gb/starcraft2/23062568/gsl-vs-the-world-fan-vote-is-now-open
Elmonti
Profile Joined July 2018
Spain299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-26 07:58:48
July 26 2019 07:57 GMT
#95
On July 26 2019 14:35 ma386654112 wrote:
i am just saying here
i will not watching this if scarlett failed attend


True SC2 commitment right there.

She needs a LOT of votes to surpass Reynor right now, so I guess he will be chosen as the zerg representative (as he should, he is clearly the second best foreigner zerg), and she will get the wild card (and probably get destroyed the moment she hits a protoss according to her last tournaments :/). But it's always great for the viewership to have her playing.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
July 26 2019 08:10 GMT
#96
On July 26 2019 13:55 RealityTheGreat wrote:
Scarlett post this vote on weibo(Chinese Twitter).
I think she will exceed Reynor.

And here we thought with a Chinese player invited we're not gonna get flooded by Chinese voters.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
July 26 2019 08:35 GMT
#97
On July 26 2019 14:51 MoDiV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 14:35 ma386654112 wrote:
i am just saying here
i will not watching this if scarlett failed attend


Once them sweet Chinese vote start pouring in shell probably end up surpassing Reynor

Don't overestimate the Chinese voting power though. They've never pulled anything quite like the Brazilian CS:GO scene did for Kelazhur last year.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
July 26 2019 09:09 GMT
#98
On July 26 2019 14:35 ma386654112 wrote:
i am just saying here
i will not watching this if scarlett failed attend


Scarlett will probably get the wild card vote which is about right. She definitely doesn’t deserve the top Zerg vote: that is clearly Reynor this year. But she should probably make it in.
MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
July 26 2019 09:54 GMT
#99
On July 26 2019 07:04 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 07:02 MrFreeman wrote:
On July 26 2019 07:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?


I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.

They invite the #1 Chinese player every year. Probably, but I have no evidence that that's the factual reason, because they're scared China would flood the polls.


And they also hide Taiwanese flag every year and I dislike it every year.

Well what can you do, the company isn't from one of the 18 countries that recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state.


I get why they are doing it, but I think it is ok to point it out and disagree. In fact, I think if everybody was complaining, not that that is very realistic, they would change it.

On July 26 2019 11:02 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?


I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.


They invite a Chinese player because of the potential boon the tournament can get form a Chinese player being there, viewer wise. Guaranteeing a Chinese player probably has a statistical benefit greater than that of an additional spot to another EU foreigner would.

Plus, TIME deserves the spot. He’s in great shape right now, and is a great representative for the Chinese scene.

Also, Big Gabe has a fine personality. He speaks his mind and says it like he sees it. We need more of that, or else every player is just Alphastar incarnate.


Yes, TIME is really good, this year, China would have probably gotten their representative in a legit way, but because the rules aren't same for everyone, we won't find out.
I guess we will not agree on heromarine's personality, I don't like players who don't respect their opponents, but I see how it could increase the excitement. I'd rather get the excitement from not knowing who will get in...
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17950 Posts
July 26 2019 10:01 GMT
#100
On July 26 2019 18:54 MrFreeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 07:04 Elentos wrote:
On July 26 2019 07:02 MrFreeman wrote:
On July 26 2019 07:01 Elentos wrote:
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?


I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.

They invite the #1 Chinese player every year. Probably, but I have no evidence that that's the factual reason, because they're scared China would flood the polls.


And they also hide Taiwanese flag every year and I dislike it every year.

Well what can you do, the company isn't from one of the 18 countries that recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state.


I get why they are doing it, but I think it is ok to point it out and disagree. In fact, I think if everybody was complaining, not that that is very realistic, they would change it.

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 11:02 vult wrote:
On July 26 2019 06:54 MrFreeman wrote:
On July 26 2019 03:18 Xamo wrote:
No complains about TIME being invited?
Are we losing our purity here at TL?


I find it pretty upsetting, being Chinese is no qualification to represent the whole foreign scene. Where is the Polish, French, German, etc. representative then? Funnily enough, I would have voted for him since he is very strong, and is only surpassed, in the terran category, by special, who has a spot and heromarine, who has atrocious personality.


They invite a Chinese player because of the potential boon the tournament can get form a Chinese player being there, viewer wise. Guaranteeing a Chinese player probably has a statistical benefit greater than that of an additional spot to another EU foreigner would.

Plus, TIME deserves the spot. He’s in great shape right now, and is a great representative for the Chinese scene.

Also, Big Gabe has a fine personality. He speaks his mind and says it like he sees it. We need more of that, or else every player is just Alphastar incarnate.


Yes, TIME is really good, this year, China would have probably gotten their representative in a legit way, but because the rules aren't same for everyone, we won't find out.
I guess we will not agree on heromarine's personality, I don't like players who don't respect their opponents, but I see how it could increase the excitement. I'd rather get the excitement from not knowing who will get in...

No, the GSL wouldn't change it. They'd get into trouble with the police. And the government isn't going to recognize Taiwan, because China is far too important to anger.
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