EPTOn August 02 2019 21:06 Harris1st wrote:
Let's hope we got at least our Maru vs Serral final
Let's hope we got at least our Maru vs Serral final
It's not gonna happen, as usual.
GSL vs. The World: Team World Vote (2019) - Page 25
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Elentos
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It's not gonna happen, as usual. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
he won fair and square (ie no rules were broken) his fan base came up to bat for him | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16101 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7643 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:25 BerserkSword wrote: why are people salty about Elazer? he won fair and square (ie no rules were broken) his fan base came up to bat for him If you read the thread, you would see all sides have been presented. This is just flame bait. | ||
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IArako
Germany195 Posts
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Audustum
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On August 02 2019 21:46 IArako wrote: The only thing i dont understand is why they wont make pure gsl vs world matches in the bracket, thats the whole point of this tourney. The voting stuff and everything else is fine. My only guess is they worry about world getting curb stomped and figure random gives better odds. | ||
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ot4_AUT
6 Posts
Make voting only available from the Blizzard Launcher, no need to have SC2 installed, but at least "own" it. Not the free2play version, if you dont own the game you should not be able to vote. The game is now 9 years old, pretty much everyone that still love this game owns it, I have only played it in 2010 but watch it since years. That would stop any bots, because they would have to buy sc2 for 15usd because they surely don't own the game, they probably dont even know what kind of game it is. And everyone else that still has not bought sc2 would support the game/developer by buying it.. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7643 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:21 z4kard wrote: Why do we have to live with this bull***t every year? Sure TL enjoys the trafficboost and revenue from it, but why cant we make a voting system that it at least a bit protected from abusing the system? Make voting only available from the Blizzard Launcher, no need to have SC2 installed, but at least "own" it. Not the free2play version, if you dont own the game you should not be able to vote. The game is now 9 years old, pretty much everyone that still love this game owns it, I have only played it in 2010 but watch it since years. That would stop any bots, because they would have to buy sc2 for 15usd because they surely don't own the game, they probably dont even know what kind of game it is. And everyone else that still has not bought sc2 would support the game/developer by buying it.. According to the rules, there was no abuse. After that, every thing you said was a bad idea. Overall 0/10 wouldn't read again. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27459 Posts
On August 02 2019 23:21 z4kard wrote: Why do we have to live with this bull***t every year? Sure TL enjoys the trafficboost and revenue from it, but why cant we make a voting system that it at least a bit protected from abusing the system? Make voting only available from the Blizzard Launcher, no need to have SC2 installed, but at least "own" it. Not the free2play version, if you dont own the game you should not be able to vote. The game is now 9 years old, pretty much everyone that still love this game owns it, I have only played it in 2010 but watch it since years. That would stop any bots, because they would have to buy sc2 for 15usd because they surely don't own the game, they probably dont even know what kind of game it is. And everyone else that still has not bought sc2 would support the game/developer by buying it.. But there is no reason to buy the games any more unless you want to play the campaigns. Presumably many new fans are almost exclusively drawn in by the eSports/streamer side of things and want to give the competitive game a shot. It was the entire point of going F2P in the first place, all restricting votes in this manner would do is drive a wedge between older fans and newer ones, and that’s rarely beneficial to any scene | ||
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On August 01 2019 19:48 StoneQuest23 wrote: To be honest if you can win the 2 WCS events of the year and not even be in the tournament this is all just a big joke. The reigning GSL champion didn't play in the first GSL vs. The World. | ||
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ot4_AUT
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On August 02 2019 23:42 Wombat_NI wrote: But there is no reason to buy the games any more unless you want to play the campaigns. Presumably many new fans are almost exclusively drawn in by the eSports/streamer side of things and want to give the competitive game a shot. It was the entire point of going F2P in the first place, all restricting votes in this manner would do is drive a wedge between older fans and newer ones, and that’s rarely beneficial to any scene Well if everyone can vote the bots and Spamusers would just download the Blizzard launcher and create there an account, same as they do now with the TL website to abuse the system. So there is no protection from this abuse? We have this every year someone gaining votes by ppl that dont even know or watch the game. So basically right now everyone can "buy" votes, Harstem could have won the vote if he paid for it, I am sure there are some influencal ppl on Youtube that could have made a video for a few bucks. So the message from TL is, if you pay for votes its OK as long as we gain new accounts on the website. Maybe someone could even make a website and sell GSL vs WORLD votes, same as they do for Youtube likes etc. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7420 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27459 Posts
On August 06 2019 23:03 z4kard wrote: Well if everyone can vote the bots and Spamusers would just download the Blizzard launcher and create there an account, same as they do now with the TL website to abuse the system. So there is no protection from this abuse? We have this every year someone gaining votes by ppl that dont even know or watch the game. So basically right now everyone can "buy" votes, Harstem could have won the vote if he paid for it, I am sure there are some influencal ppl on Youtube that could have made a video for a few bucks. So the message from TL is, if you pay for votes its OK as long as we gain new accounts on the website. Maybe someone could even make a website and sell GSL vs WORLD votes, same as they do for Youtube likes etc. Just don’t have a vote is the protection. My point was solely that most restrictions people have suggested would lock out at least some people who are fans or players of the game. When we want new people into the scene and want them to stay, any kind of ‘you’re not a real fan without x’ is a terrible idea and drives wedges into a community that really can’t afford to have them. For example the suggestion you should own a copy of Legacy, well the message that sends out is ‘we’ve been here longer we get a vote, you don’t unless you buy this product’ which is a pretty terrible message to send. I don’t even own a copy of Legacy come to think of it haha, my hiatus came before it went FtP. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27459 Posts
Presumably it was chosen for being a decades old community site that has a special place in the history of the game(s)? | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 02 2019 21:28 Charoisaur wrote: Hopefully we get a Dark, Maru, Serral, Classic ro4. The 4 best players right now It's cool how this was the case 18 months ago and its still the case now. We even got a Maru/Serral - Dark/Classic ro4 at WeSG towards the start of last year. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 18 2019 00:09 MrFreeman wrote: Haha, Elazer even had quite a few fans in the chat. He used to be aggressive 2 base all-in player, I'm really surprised how good his lategame has become. Imagine being zerg in 2019 and your lategame not getting much better | ||
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