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GSL vs. The World: Team World Vote (2019) - Page 25

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 02 2019 12:11 GMT
#481
On August 02 2019 21:06 Harris1st wrote:
Let's hope we got at least our Maru vs Serral final

It's not gonna happen, as usual.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
August 02 2019 12:25 GMT
#482
why are people salty about Elazer?

he won fair and square (ie no rules were broken)

his fan base came up to bat for him
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15953 Posts
August 02 2019 12:28 GMT
#483
Hopefully we get a Dark, Maru, Serral, Classic ro4. The 4 best players right now
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
August 02 2019 12:28 GMT
#484
On August 02 2019 21:25 BerserkSword wrote:
why are people salty about Elazer?

he won fair and square (ie no rules were broken)

his fan base came up to bat for him


If you read the thread, you would see all sides have been presented.

This is just flame bait.
IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
August 02 2019 12:46 GMT
#485
The only thing i dont understand is why they wont make pure gsl vs world matches in the bracket, thats the whole point of this tourney. The voting stuff and everything else is fine.
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Audustum
Profile Joined July 2019
7 Posts
August 02 2019 14:13 GMT
#486
On August 02 2019 21:46 IArako wrote:
The only thing i dont understand is why they wont make pure gsl vs world matches in the bracket, thats the whole point of this tourney. The voting stuff and everything else is fine.


My only guess is they worry about world getting curb stomped and figure random gives better odds.
ot4_AUT
Profile Joined February 2019
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-02 14:22:51
August 02 2019 14:21 GMT
#487
Why do we have to live with this bull***t every year? Sure TL enjoys the trafficboost and revenue from it, but why cant we make a voting system that it at least a bit protected from abusing the system?

Make voting only available from the Blizzard Launcher, no need to have SC2 installed, but at least "own" it. Not the free2play version, if you dont own the game you should not be able to vote. The game is now 9 years old, pretty much everyone that still love this game owns it, I have only played it in 2010 but watch it since years.
That would stop any bots, because they would have to buy sc2 for 15usd because they surely don't own the game, they probably dont even know what kind of game it is. And everyone else that still has not bought sc2 would support the game/developer by buying it..
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
August 02 2019 14:29 GMT
#488
On August 02 2019 23:21 z4kard wrote:
Why do we have to live with this bull***t every year? Sure TL enjoys the trafficboost and revenue from it, but why cant we make a voting system that it at least a bit protected from abusing the system?

Make voting only available from the Blizzard Launcher, no need to have SC2 installed, but at least "own" it. Not the free2play version, if you dont own the game you should not be able to vote. The game is now 9 years old, pretty much everyone that still love this game owns it, I have only played it in 2010 but watch it since years.
That would stop any bots, because they would have to buy sc2 for 15usd because they surely don't own the game, they probably dont even know what kind of game it is. And everyone else that still has not bought sc2 would support the game/developer by buying it..


According to the rules, there was no abuse.

After that, every thing you said was a bad idea.

Overall 0/10 wouldn't read again.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25237 Posts
August 02 2019 14:42 GMT
#489
On August 02 2019 23:21 z4kard wrote:
Why do we have to live with this bull***t every year? Sure TL enjoys the trafficboost and revenue from it, but why cant we make a voting system that it at least a bit protected from abusing the system?

Make voting only available from the Blizzard Launcher, no need to have SC2 installed, but at least "own" it. Not the free2play version, if you dont own the game you should not be able to vote. The game is now 9 years old, pretty much everyone that still love this game owns it, I have only played it in 2010 but watch it since years.
That would stop any bots, because they would have to buy sc2 for 15usd because they surely don't own the game, they probably dont even know what kind of game it is. And everyone else that still has not bought sc2 would support the game/developer by buying it..

But there is no reason to buy the games any more unless you want to play the campaigns.

Presumably many new fans are almost exclusively drawn in by the eSports/streamer side of things and want to give the competitive game a shot.

It was the entire point of going F2P in the first place, all restricting votes in this manner would do is drive a wedge between older fans and newer ones, and that’s rarely beneficial to any scene
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
August 02 2019 17:49 GMT
#490
On August 01 2019 19:48 StoneQuest23 wrote:
To be honest if you can win the 2 WCS events of the year and not even be in the tournament this is all just a big joke.

The reigning GSL champion didn't play in the first GSL vs. The World.
121014661
Profile Joined August 2019
1 Post
August 03 2019 01:56 GMT
#491
elazer sucks

User was banned for this post.
ot4_AUT
Profile Joined February 2019
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-06 14:15:34
August 06 2019 14:03 GMT
#492
On August 02 2019 23:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2019 23:21 z4kard wrote:
Why do we have to live with this bull***t every year? Sure TL enjoys the trafficboost and revenue from it, but why cant we make a voting system that it at least a bit protected from abusing the system?

Make voting only available from the Blizzard Launcher, no need to have SC2 installed, but at least "own" it. Not the free2play version, if you dont own the game you should not be able to vote. The game is now 9 years old, pretty much everyone that still love this game owns it, I have only played it in 2010 but watch it since years.
That would stop any bots, because they would have to buy sc2 for 15usd because they surely don't own the game, they probably dont even know what kind of game it is. And everyone else that still has not bought sc2 would support the game/developer by buying it..

But there is no reason to buy the games any more unless you want to play the campaigns.

Presumably many new fans are almost exclusively drawn in by the eSports/streamer side of things and want to give the competitive game a shot.

It was the entire point of going F2P in the first place, all restricting votes in this manner would do is drive a wedge between older fans and newer ones, and that’s rarely beneficial to any scene


Well if everyone can vote the bots and Spamusers would just download the Blizzard launcher and create there an account, same as they do now with the TL website to abuse the system. So there is no protection from this abuse? We have this every year someone gaining votes by ppl that dont even know or watch the game.

So basically right now everyone can "buy" votes, Harstem could have won the vote if he paid for it, I am sure there are some influencal ppl on Youtube that could have made a video for a few bucks. So the message from TL is, if you pay for votes its OK as long as we gain new accounts on the website. Maybe someone could even make a website and sell GSL vs WORLD votes, same as they do for Youtube likes etc.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6924 Posts
August 07 2019 13:51 GMT
#493
The conspiracy theories are strong with this one
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25237 Posts
August 07 2019 14:37 GMT
#494
On August 06 2019 23:03 z4kard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2019 23:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 02 2019 23:21 z4kard wrote:
Why do we have to live with this bull***t every year? Sure TL enjoys the trafficboost and revenue from it, but why cant we make a voting system that it at least a bit protected from abusing the system?

Make voting only available from the Blizzard Launcher, no need to have SC2 installed, but at least "own" it. Not the free2play version, if you dont own the game you should not be able to vote. The game is now 9 years old, pretty much everyone that still love this game owns it, I have only played it in 2010 but watch it since years.
That would stop any bots, because they would have to buy sc2 for 15usd because they surely don't own the game, they probably dont even know what kind of game it is. And everyone else that still has not bought sc2 would support the game/developer by buying it..

But there is no reason to buy the games any more unless you want to play the campaigns.

Presumably many new fans are almost exclusively drawn in by the eSports/streamer side of things and want to give the competitive game a shot.

It was the entire point of going F2P in the first place, all restricting votes in this manner would do is drive a wedge between older fans and newer ones, and that’s rarely beneficial to any scene


Well if everyone can vote the bots and Spamusers would just download the Blizzard launcher and create there an account, same as they do now with the TL website to abuse the system. So there is no protection from this abuse? We have this every year someone gaining votes by ppl that dont even know or watch the game.

So basically right now everyone can "buy" votes, Harstem could have won the vote if he paid for it, I am sure there are some influencal ppl on Youtube that could have made a video for a few bucks. So the message from TL is, if you pay for votes its OK as long as we gain new accounts on the website. Maybe someone could even make a website and sell GSL vs WORLD votes, same as they do for Youtube likes etc.

Just don’t have a vote is the protection.

My point was solely that most restrictions people have suggested would lock out at least some people who are fans or players of the game.

When we want new people into the scene and want them to stay, any kind of ‘you’re not a real fan without x’ is a terrible idea and drives wedges into a community that really can’t afford to have them.

For example the suggestion you should own a copy of Legacy, well the message that sends out is ‘we’ve been here longer we get a vote, you don’t unless you buy this product’ which is a pretty terrible message to send.

I don’t even own a copy of Legacy come to think of it haha, my hiatus came before it went FtP.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25237 Posts
August 07 2019 14:39 GMT
#495
I’m pretty sure TL isn’t hunting users considering how ban-happy and strictly moderated the site is.

Presumably it was chosen for being a decades old community site that has a special place in the history of the game(s)?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 07 2019 15:30 GMT
#496
On August 02 2019 21:28 Charoisaur wrote:
Hopefully we get a Dark, Maru, Serral, Classic ro4. The 4 best players right now

It's cool how this was the case 18 months ago and its still the case now. We even got a Maru/Serral - Dark/Classic ro4 at WeSG towards the start of last year.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
August 07 2019 15:59 GMT
#497
dam, reading this thread is pretty funny
n_n
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4193 Posts
August 17 2019 13:42 GMT
#498
Considering the results of the actual tournament, this whole thread is absolute gold.. seriously hilarious :D
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MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
August 17 2019 15:09 GMT
#499
Haha, Elazer even had quite a few fans in the chat. He used to be aggressive 2 base all-in player, I'm really surprised how good his lategame has become. It's true he's said a year ago he will sacrifice short term result in order to make his game more solid, just didn't expect it to work out this well. Glad his friend and teammate helped him get in .
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 17 2019 16:09 GMT
#500
On August 18 2019 00:09 MrFreeman wrote:
Haha, Elazer even had quite a few fans in the chat. He used to be aggressive 2 base all-in player, I'm really surprised how good his lategame has become.

Imagine being zerg in 2019 and your lategame not getting much better
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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