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SC2 esports history: ELO & prize money visualized

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summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-05 05:59:08
June 04 2019 20:40 GMT
#1
Using the data from aligulac, I made a comprehensive visualization of SC2 player's ELO score and prize money won.

Now please don't tell me this has been done before... I sure couldnt find anything like it

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edit: like many people already spotted, the prize money graph has two bugs:
- herO is added to HerO (i used excel to prepare the data, and its not case sensitive)
- one time, it displays the total for HerO (and herO) and then jumps back to the correct value. this is because some tournaments in the aligulac dataset did not have a date. one of those was in the prize money stat and won by herO (master's coliseum 2). i added the date, but i forgot to re-sort the table, so it is at the end of the table, and when that value gets called it shows lifetime total for herO and HerO combined

the ELO graph is unaffected, since I only took players who went into the top10 at any point, and herO doesnt qualify for that

i added this info to the video description (which nobody ever reads

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Enjoy:

Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 04 2019 22:00 GMT
#2
This is great!
Surprisingly clear too, although it show there is some strange patern with elo system sometime.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10078 Posts
June 04 2019 22:15 GMT
#3
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-04 22:20:05
June 04 2019 22:17 GMT
#4
A visual history of 10 years of SC2 in 8.5 min. Amazing. I will share it with my casual fan friends who were asking about SC2 history and the names of past greats.

Also, amazing to see the dominant runs of some past legends, INnoVation basically had the run up, peak, and sustained delta from the pack of a great player at least three times. Taeja had a few nice streaks; I didn't realize he was so head-and-shoulders above his peers for some decent time periods.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
June 04 2019 22:25 GMT
#5
Yeah this was really cool. I might rewatch later for the prize money bar graph, but the ELO plot was significantly more interesting to me. Thanks oodles for putting it together <3
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 04 2019 23:11 GMT
#6
this is awesome.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
June 04 2019 23:28 GMT
#7
I really like these types of videos.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 05 2019 00:11 GMT
#8
Very nice, Mvp's period of domination was huge, Life's was quite mediocre considering ppl think he is a GOAT contender
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
June 05 2019 00:28 GMT
#9
On June 05 2019 07:15 Topin wrote:
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?

it's the two H/herO's combined LOL
very illegal and very uncool
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 05 2019 01:10 GMT
#10
On June 05 2019 05:40 summerloud wrote:
Using the data from aligulac, I made a comprehensive visualization of SC2 player's ELO score and prize money won.

Now please don't tell me this has been done before... I sure couldnt find anything like it

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tfz4wCqKfw


reminds me of this:



but very nice for just SC2
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 05 2019 01:19 GMT
#11
Having elo and prize money and tournaments all at once was a bit distracting, but still an interesting visualization. Stuff like ByuN becoming number one entirely off of online events shows the limitation of rating systems when matches between players are so non-uniform.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
June 05 2019 01:23 GMT
#12
On June 05 2019 09:28 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 07:15 Topin wrote:
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?

it's the two H/herO's combined LOL

LOL I was going to say that. I was like I'm pretty sure that herO earned more than HerO. Then I checked their earnings and sure enough the total given in the video was the sum of both of them.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 05 2019 01:27 GMT
#13
Very interesting video, thank you!

Did Aligulac change algorythm after 2014? Top MMR were stable around 2000-2100 for almost four year, then skyrocketed(even factoring in elo inflation, it seems me weird at a glance).
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1239 Posts
June 05 2019 01:35 GMT
#14
This video is the definition of why I always correct people who misspell HerO and herO. It's legit gotten to the point where people forget/don't even know HerO was a different player and now an entire data visualization is giving out misleading information to perpetuate it.

Color me triggered :^)
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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
June 05 2019 02:40 GMT
#15
What a great video, thanks!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 05 2019 02:48 GMT
#16
On June 05 2019 10:23 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 09:28 argonautdice wrote:
On June 05 2019 07:15 Topin wrote:
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?

it's the two H/herO's combined LOL

LOL I was going to say that. I was like I'm pretty sure that herO earned more than HerO. Then I checked their earnings and sure enough the total given in the video was the sum of both of them.


Haha that's why!
I was like, damn herO made a lot of money
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
June 05 2019 02:59 GMT
#17
I was wondering when did ever did either Hero ever win so much money.
Someone call down the Thunder?
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
June 05 2019 06:04 GMT
#18
On June 05 2019 08:28 Anc13nt wrote:
I really like these types of videos.


me too! thats why i decided to start my own channel doing those

there are already a couple of channels on youtube that do those that you can check out:
abacaba (the best! check out their video about chess players ELO)
wawamustats
theranker
rankingtheworld
etc...

however, most of them have a couple of downsides, which i think i can improve upon:
- they mostly do racing bar charts, which have the downside that you never see the past (much easier to do with existing tools, thats why)
- they mostly do the same stuff over and over, like GDP, and rarely combine stats or even use stuff thats actually meaningful (like GDP per capita instead of GDP

on my new channel I'm trying to do racing line charts mostly, which are much better suited for that kind of data imho... bar charts are much easier to do with the existing tools, thats why so many people on youtube do them
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
June 05 2019 09:38 GMT
#19
You can write one of the herO's with a zero (her0), that would solve your problem

Really interesting! Thanks so much for that
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
June 05 2019 09:49 GMT
#20
On June 05 2019 10:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 05:40 summerloud wrote:
Using the data from aligulac, I made a comprehensive visualization of SC2 player's ELO score and prize money won.

Now please don't tell me this has been done before... I sure couldnt find anything like it

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tfz4wCqKfw


reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwMa6zMfwY

but very nice for just SC2


WTF is Painkiller? Never heard of that O.o

The rise of games like SC2, LoL and Dota 2 is insane!
CS is splitted into multiple versions and should combined be further up I guess
Interesting stuff
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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