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summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-05 05:59:08
June 04 2019 20:40 GMT
#1
Using the data from aligulac, I made a comprehensive visualization of SC2 player's ELO score and prize money won.

Now please don't tell me this has been done before... I sure couldnt find anything like it

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edit: like many people already spotted, the prize money graph has two bugs:
- herO is added to HerO (i used excel to prepare the data, and its not case sensitive)
- one time, it displays the total for HerO (and herO) and then jumps back to the correct value. this is because some tournaments in the aligulac dataset did not have a date. one of those was in the prize money stat and won by herO (master's coliseum 2). i added the date, but i forgot to re-sort the table, so it is at the end of the table, and when that value gets called it shows lifetime total for herO and HerO combined

the ELO graph is unaffected, since I only took players who went into the top10 at any point, and herO doesnt qualify for that

i added this info to the video description (which nobody ever reads

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Enjoy:

Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 04 2019 22:00 GMT
#2
This is great!
Surprisingly clear too, although it show there is some strange patern with elo system sometime.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10080 Posts
June 04 2019 22:15 GMT
#3
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Htime
Profile Joined March 2019
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-04 22:20:05
June 04 2019 22:17 GMT
#4
A visual history of 10 years of SC2 in 8.5 min. Amazing. I will share it with my casual fan friends who were asking about SC2 history and the names of past greats.

Also, amazing to see the dominant runs of some past legends, INnoVation basically had the run up, peak, and sustained delta from the pack of a great player at least three times. Taeja had a few nice streaks; I didn't realize he was so head-and-shoulders above his peers for some decent time periods.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
June 04 2019 22:25 GMT
#5
Yeah this was really cool. I might rewatch later for the prize money bar graph, but the ELO plot was significantly more interesting to me. Thanks oodles for putting it together <3
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 04 2019 23:11 GMT
#6
this is awesome.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
June 04 2019 23:28 GMT
#7
I really like these types of videos.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 05 2019 00:11 GMT
#8
Very nice, Mvp's period of domination was huge, Life's was quite mediocre considering ppl think he is a GOAT contender
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
June 05 2019 00:28 GMT
#9
On June 05 2019 07:15 Topin wrote:
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?

it's the two H/herO's combined LOL
very illegal and very uncool
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 05 2019 01:10 GMT
#10
On June 05 2019 05:40 summerloud wrote:
Using the data from aligulac, I made a comprehensive visualization of SC2 player's ELO score and prize money won.

Now please don't tell me this has been done before... I sure couldnt find anything like it

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tfz4wCqKfw


reminds me of this:



but very nice for just SC2
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 05 2019 01:19 GMT
#11
Having elo and prize money and tournaments all at once was a bit distracting, but still an interesting visualization. Stuff like ByuN becoming number one entirely off of online events shows the limitation of rating systems when matches between players are so non-uniform.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
June 05 2019 01:23 GMT
#12
On June 05 2019 09:28 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 07:15 Topin wrote:
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?

it's the two H/herO's combined LOL

LOL I was going to say that. I was like I'm pretty sure that herO earned more than HerO. Then I checked their earnings and sure enough the total given in the video was the sum of both of them.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 05 2019 01:27 GMT
#13
Very interesting video, thank you!

Did Aligulac change algorythm after 2014? Top MMR were stable around 2000-2100 for almost four year, then skyrocketed(even factoring in elo inflation, it seems me weird at a glance).
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1239 Posts
June 05 2019 01:35 GMT
#14
This video is the definition of why I always correct people who misspell HerO and herO. It's legit gotten to the point where people forget/don't even know HerO was a different player and now an entire data visualization is giving out misleading information to perpetuate it.

Color me triggered :^)
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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
June 05 2019 02:40 GMT
#15
What a great video, thanks!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 05 2019 02:48 GMT
#16
On June 05 2019 10:23 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 09:28 argonautdice wrote:
On June 05 2019 07:15 Topin wrote:
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?

it's the two H/herO's combined LOL

LOL I was going to say that. I was like I'm pretty sure that herO earned more than HerO. Then I checked their earnings and sure enough the total given in the video was the sum of both of them.


Haha that's why!
I was like, damn herO made a lot of money
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
June 05 2019 02:59 GMT
#17
I was wondering when did ever did either Hero ever win so much money.
Someone call down the Thunder?
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
June 05 2019 06:04 GMT
#18
On June 05 2019 08:28 Anc13nt wrote:
I really like these types of videos.


me too! thats why i decided to start my own channel doing those

there are already a couple of channels on youtube that do those that you can check out:
abacaba (the best! check out their video about chess players ELO)
wawamustats
theranker
rankingtheworld
etc...

however, most of them have a couple of downsides, which i think i can improve upon:
- they mostly do racing bar charts, which have the downside that you never see the past (much easier to do with existing tools, thats why)
- they mostly do the same stuff over and over, like GDP, and rarely combine stats or even use stuff thats actually meaningful (like GDP per capita instead of GDP

on my new channel I'm trying to do racing line charts mostly, which are much better suited for that kind of data imho... bar charts are much easier to do with the existing tools, thats why so many people on youtube do them
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
June 05 2019 09:38 GMT
#19
You can write one of the herO's with a zero (her0), that would solve your problem

Really interesting! Thanks so much for that
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
June 05 2019 09:49 GMT
#20
On June 05 2019 10:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 05:40 summerloud wrote:
Using the data from aligulac, I made a comprehensive visualization of SC2 player's ELO score and prize money won.

Now please don't tell me this has been done before... I sure couldnt find anything like it

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tfz4wCqKfw


reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwMa6zMfwY

but very nice for just SC2


WTF is Painkiller? Never heard of that O.o

The rise of games like SC2, LoL and Dota 2 is insane!
CS is splitted into multiple versions and should combined be further up I guess
Interesting stuff
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3405 Posts
June 05 2019 09:53 GMT
#21
dat Mvp and ByuN's peaks and the INnoVation constant presence in the graphs are astounding
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HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
June 05 2019 10:12 GMT
#22
On June 05 2019 18:49 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 10:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On June 05 2019 05:40 summerloud wrote:
Using the data from aligulac, I made a comprehensive visualization of SC2 player's ELO score and prize money won.

Now please don't tell me this has been done before... I sure couldnt find anything like it

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tfz4wCqKfw


reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwMa6zMfwY

but very nice for just SC2


WTF is Painkiller? Never heard of that O.o

The rise of games like SC2, LoL and Dota 2 is insane!
CS is splitted into multiple versions and should combined be further up I guess
Interesting stuff


How old are you? :o Painkiller was like one of the very first fps esport titles, alongside Quake and CS at the time
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
June 05 2019 10:15 GMT
#23
Awesome work man, so many nostalgia hits.

Mvp initial dominance. Taeja carrying the Terran hope amoungst all that Zerg & Protoss. Mvp's brief ressurgence, Innovations long term consistent dominance. Parting & Life rivalry. Flash being the highest ELO for a blip, and then of course Serral and Maru ruling the world for a year straight.
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
June 05 2019 10:27 GMT
#24
Happy to be a part of this graph multiple times :D
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
June 05 2019 10:33 GMT
#25
Amazing.
The rise of Serral in the end was pretty awesome, too.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
gondolin
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
France332 Posts
June 05 2019 11:00 GMT
#26
What tool did you use to make this video? This is very nice!
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-05 11:34:31
June 05 2019 11:34 GMT
#27
Love how you can see Byun's rising, the 4 horseman era, then Maru and Serral alone at the top. Also shows how good Taeja was.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
June 05 2019 11:54 GMT
#28
really great video, loved seeing it

shame it made me throw up when sniper appeared for a few seconds at the end of 2012/start of 2013


seriously, fuck that guy
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6931 Posts
June 05 2019 12:18 GMT
#29
On June 05 2019 19:12 HsDLTitich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 18:49 Harris1st wrote:
On June 05 2019 10:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On June 05 2019 05:40 summerloud wrote:
Using the data from aligulac, I made a comprehensive visualization of SC2 player's ELO score and prize money won.

Now please don't tell me this has been done before... I sure couldnt find anything like it

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tfz4wCqKfw


reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwMa6zMfwY

but very nice for just SC2


WTF is Painkiller? Never heard of that O.o

The rise of games like SC2, LoL and Dota 2 is insane!
CS is splitted into multiple versions and should combined be further up I guess
Interesting stuff


How old are you? :o Painkiller was like one of the very first fps esport titles, alongside Quake and CS at the time


My age starts with a 3 ^^'
Somehow I completely missed that, though I remember playing Quake, Doom and CS back then. And Rune. Loved Rune. And WC2, Diablo 1 :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 05 2019 14:13 GMT
#30
On June 05 2019 19:27 Nerchio wrote:
Happy to be a part of this graph multiple times :D


You are a legend.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
June 05 2019 16:14 GMT
#31
On June 05 2019 20:00 gondolin wrote:
What tool did you use to make this video? This is very nice!


https://flourish.studio/ racing line graph & racing bar graph, excel for data preparation and the events pics, hitfilm for cutting and editing the video
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4730 Posts
June 05 2019 16:14 GMT
#32
Very nice
Pathetic Greta hater.
Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
June 05 2019 16:48 GMT
#33
Great video, i really loved when Serral appeared. It should've have the thugh life music and glasses though haha
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
June 05 2019 17:14 GMT
#34
On June 05 2019 09:28 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 07:15 Topin wrote:
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?

it's the two H/herO's combined LOL

but the number was multiple times decreasing like at the 8 minute mark? weird
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-05 17:20:19
June 05 2019 17:19 GMT
#35
Seeing Life makes me sad... What a player he was.

Nice effort ! Even if elo on sc2 is always a bit imperfect with the skill disparity between the for/kor scene.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
June 05 2019 17:43 GMT
#36
Very nice, great to watch. Amazing realization I watched all of this when it happened as well. 10 years.. :o
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 05 2019 19:14 GMT
#37
Enjoyed every minute of it, great work!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ronski
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland266 Posts
June 05 2019 19:37 GMT
#38
On June 05 2019 19:27 Nerchio wrote:
Happy to be a part of this graph multiple times :D

Your consistency over all these years is one of the most impressive things to me in all of starcraft. Always rooting for you!
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Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany459 Posts
June 05 2019 19:41 GMT
#39
On June 06 2019 02:14 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 09:28 argonautdice wrote:
On June 05 2019 07:15 Topin wrote:
wow that was sick! just one thing... is the protoss HerO or herO i assume is the latest?

it's the two H/herO's combined LOL

but the number was multiple times decreasing like at the 8 minute mark? weird


Yah, that made me wonder, too. Would be interesting to know why.
Also first i thought Stats might be mistaken for HerO, but both combined sounds plausible
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Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany459 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-05 19:42:50
June 05 2019 19:42 GMT
#40
double post, sry
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
June 05 2019 21:04 GMT
#41
INno, so consistant.
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summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
June 07 2019 21:29 GMT
#42
On June 06 2019 06:04 Mun_Su wrote:
INno, so consistant.


yeah, he also leads aligulac's hall of fame by a wide margin: http://aligulac.com/records/hof/
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-09 22:57:15
June 09 2019 22:54 GMT
#43
Amazing job, the video is very interesting.

On June 06 2019 06:04 Mun_Su wrote:
INno, so consistant.

Quite common for the GOAT in most sports.
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MrFreeman
Profile Joined January 2015
207 Posts
June 14 2019 12:16 GMT
#44
Really nice visualization. Considering the Rain and her0 mistakes, maybe you can do an updated version in a year or two with those errors corrected and the new data. Honestly, I wouldn't mind watchin an up-to-date veersion every one or two years .
summerloud
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1201 Posts
June 27 2019 07:47 GMT
#45
On June 14 2019 21:16 MrFreeman wrote:
Really nice visualization. Considering the Rain and her0 mistakes, maybe you can do an updated version in a year or two with those errors corrected and the new data. Honestly, I wouldn't mind watchin an up-to-date veersion every one or two years .


definitely planning on doing that, since the effort to update it is miniscule compared to the effort of first making it

i just hope that
a) aligulac will still be around
b) sc2 pro gaming will still be a thing

JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 27 2019 14:39 GMT
#46
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
June 27 2019 14:52 GMT
#47
On June 05 2019 09:11 IshinShishi wrote:
Very nice, Mvp's period of domination was huge, Life's was quite mediocre considering ppl think he is a GOAT contender

Life was at the top of his game when he went down, young, and there was no indication of him stopping. what he did was shit and i make no excuses for him, but if he had exercised better judgment it's very likely he would have continued dominating
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4948 Posts
June 27 2019 14:54 GMT
#48
Oh god, I miss Life
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arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States271 Posts
June 27 2019 21:56 GMT
#49
Shows what an absolute monster Byun was. Sure, a lot of his rating came from online cups, but he had an absolutely staggering winrate for like 2 straights years regardless of who he went up against.
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
June 28 2019 19:36 GMT
#50
GOAT = Innovation.

When you see it, you believe it.

Great work with statistics and visualization.

Serral, we all put our pitiful hopes upon you. Make 10 more years!

(to that weirdly addictive vid) :
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