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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25957 Posts
April 25 2019 08:31 GMT
#61
On April 25 2019 17:21 Cyro wrote:
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On April 25 2019 17:18 Wombat_NI wrote:
On April 25 2019 17:07 Cyro wrote:
On April 23 2019 09:37 MrFreeman wrote:
On April 23 2019 07:23 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On April 23 2019 06:53 MrFreeman wrote:
Really nice insight into your decision, also a real shame, since you were doing so well recently. Shame it's W3 u r switching to, since they insist on keeping the dumb 12 unit in a group limit, won't add any story and their "With countless quality-of-life improvements" translates into fixing the path-finding. I guess I can keep my money :D .

yeah,it makes sense in wc3 because there are a lot less units on the battlefield..

+ it adds another layer of skill to micro. It's a good thing, definitely.


Well, for me it is just really intrusive and makes a mess of my macro. It's not that I need much more than that, it's the fact that it is a hard limit. You box 12 units and put them in one group, works fine, you box 13 and put them in one group, suddenly one is left out. What my muscle memory perceives as almost a same thing, has very different results, which makes the game uncomfortable.


IDD. It's one of the most bizarre limitations that feels awful to play with because of that and it will kill their ability to get new players in

It is the game though, you’d have to redo all sorts of balance stuff if you had unlimited unit selection.

I’m sure at least some new players can get used to it, or might even enjoy that system, if it was changed the WC3 vets wouldn’t move over to Reforged.

It’s not all that restrictive as unit numbers are a lot lower than in Brood War, which absolutely is a fight against the UI that I am not good at, but I love the game and watching the pros so was happy they kept the game the same.


That's not argument against them having a toggle for campaign & customs, i bet an enormous amount of people would use it.

If people don't wanna enable it for tournaments then so be it.

As long as people can’t use it on ladder I don’t mind having certain things be campaign/custom only or whatever.

Have Blizz 100% confirmed they won’t do such a thing incidentally?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Rail_sc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation205 Posts
April 25 2019 10:33 GMT
#62
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/public-test-realm-1-31/5003

https://twitter.com/verdi_wc3
Lolly
Profile Joined October 2010
United States18 Posts
April 30 2019 22:40 GMT
#63
I'd love to get my hands on reforged. I'm really excited about it.
Any word about release date?
Everybody dies, but not everybody lives.
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
May 01 2019 10:23 GMT
#64
On May 01 2019 07:40 Lolly wrote:
I'd love to get my hands on reforged. I'm really excited about it.
Any word about release date?


I only heard about december 2019
Lolly
Profile Joined October 2010
United States18 Posts
May 01 2019 21:09 GMT
#65


I only heard about december 2019


I'm so excited!
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 16 2019 08:25 GMT
#66
On April 22 2019 01:08 Xain0n wrote:
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On April 22 2019 01:00 Nithala wrote:
On April 22 2019 00:45 Wombat_NI wrote:
On April 22 2019 00:38 Nithala wrote:
On April 21 2019 23:59 Xain0n wrote:
On April 21 2019 23:56 Nithala wrote:
On April 21 2019 23:50 Xain0n wrote:
On April 21 2019 23:47 Nithala wrote:
Well, many returned to it, even Stabuck who qualified for last WCS But I dont see reforged making huge impact on wc3 scene, its too small and cash deprieved. I did come back to sc2 even tho my first RTS was wc3, and I loving it, but game is broken with NELF patch and it will remain like that, so I see many returning to sc2 aswell. Even tho it isnt perfect its far better balanced then wc3.


Night Elves aren't that broken anymore.

Activision-Blizzard will surely sponsor new tournaments after Reforged's release.

Which race is StarBuck playing? Rail/Verdi is Human according to Liquipedia.


I hear much different opinions of my friends who play at very high level. Many of them complaining to elves. Top 20 on EU server is elf populated.

Starbuck is mostly random, sometimes he main UD or HU. Verdi was HU earlier, yes.


The patch before this one was infested by NE at every stages. They are still strong at the moment but they aren't dominating as much looking at the latest tournaments.


Well, I am not following scene much for past 4,5 months but when i played I know so many players switched and played kotg+alchemist combo which was sick. I m glad if things changed but I see many WCG competitors on EU event complaining about elf again.

I mean if Grubby is complaining there’s probably a problem. Not because he’s always right but he’s mr positive and focus on improving.

He plays a different race each stream night, on his Nelf night he has swapped to going Warden in all non-mirrors on a few days, because he felt Keeper is too good/boring and wanted to mix it up.

So yeah I think it’s safe to say Nelf is probably a bit strong, although I believe a patch is coming soon


To be honest he had insane win rate with elf. Its not only KOTG broken, giants taking 6 food, double taunt, chimaeras without AoWing, etc. ToD complain often and [plays only human. He is natural whiner but he had point, obviioulsy, as long as wc3 Blizzard officials responded to his tweets couple of times.


Five months ago NE were indeed broken; ToD always complains about Human being weak but they were actually the only ones to steal tournament wins in that patch.

sounds like terran to me.but human also looks like they are the most advanced race in wow ,almost like protoss thanks to gandalf and dem hobbits
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 26 2019 00:39 GMT
#67
Is Rail back to sc2? He seems to have joined a team according to Liquipedia, and he signed up for Nation Wars.
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