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Serral wins the 2018 WCS Global Finals - Page 5

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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-05 02:58:55
November 05 2018 02:41 GMT
#81
So were korean fans and pros giving Serral more credit than the average TL user?
Was Maru expected to win? What do they say about his anticlimatic loss?
iamkaokao
Profile Joined March 2011
108 Posts
November 05 2018 03:04 GMT
#82
literal bonjwa here
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia489 Posts
November 05 2018 03:15 GMT
#83
Perhaps the scariest thing about Serral is that you can see him improving after every series he's won (and lost).
tilhorizon
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany191 Posts
November 05 2018 03:24 GMT
#84
serral on stage to smix after he won : "also i want to give a big thank you to lambo he helped me in each series for preperation"

nice of him to thanks the guy helped him to win. he also sayd this after the montreal win over rayner

even the best player in the world needs help in training in preperation in tactics and gameplan and lambo is his first choice
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7104 Posts
November 05 2018 03:57 GMT
#85
Probably the best thing i ever saw in the time i watched/played sc2. Thank you serral
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
November 05 2018 04:13 GMT
#86
I would be very interested in Korean news/social media about Serral. What are they saying about his run and him as a player?
Noa Greenini
Profile Joined April 2015
265 Posts
November 05 2018 04:33 GMT
#87
The fact that Serral didn't do anything weird, unexpected or new is the most impressive. He does things that no foreigners have done before and is probably only comparable to Life, who would probably have been the best player right now had he not thrown everything away.

The people who don't want to crown him the best foreigner of all time must have not watched the game. It looks completely different to what we're used to. He wins in a way that just doesn't work for anyone else consistently and that's also why he looks so scary. How do you counter a style like that. No doubt someone will figure it out, but to us mere mortals it looks crazy. No foreigner has looked so dominant, and only a few koreans.

It seems like Serral tries out things in smaller tournaments and brings his A-game to Premiers, judging from the losses he's taken but I haven't seen all of those matches.

Also, as some people have said: the elitism and doubting, even in the face of rapidly mounting evidence, from some posters makes it even better.

I wish i didn't play Terran when I see Serral play....
Noa Greenini looks like the superior LR poster - Charoisaur 04/05/2019 (Serral vs Showtime match)
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
November 05 2018 04:41 GMT
#88
Not surprised in the least that he won. Wish we could have watched him tested against top Terrans more this year but oh well. He's the best player in the world and I respect the hell out of his skill but I doubt I'll ever be a fan. Now that he's conquered the mountain it'll be interesting to see if he keeps his form or slips a little next year.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 05 2018 04:49 GMT
#89
On November 05 2018 12:15 kottbullar wrote:
Perhaps the scariest thing about Serral is that you can see him improving after every series he's won (and lost).


Yep. Won 3-1 against Dark in GSLvTW? 3-0 this time. 4-3 against Stats? 4-2 this time. Everyone really wanted a Maru/Serral match, but the game is not dead and there is plenty of time in the future for that to happen.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 05 2018 04:55 GMT
#90
On November 05 2018 13:13 BjoernK wrote:
I would be very interested in Korean news/social media about Serral. What are they saying about his run and him as a player?

There's a reddit post about it.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 05 2018 05:04 GMT
#91
On November 05 2018 13:55 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2018 13:13 BjoernK wrote:
I would be very interested in Korean news/social media about Serral. What are they saying about his run and him as a player?

There's a reddit post about it.


"His autograph skills are poor" was my favorite :p
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
November 05 2018 05:15 GMT
#92
Haven't watched sc2 in months but tastosis and serral brought back some of that passion I really miss. Great finals and congrats to serral.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
ReditusSum
Profile Joined September 2018
79 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-05 05:46:41
November 05 2018 05:34 GMT
#93
On November 05 2018 08:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2018 08:34 ReditusSum wrote:
On November 05 2018 05:02 Dave4 wrote:
6 Premier victories in one calendar year. And he can still make it 7.

Absolutely Savage.


Poll: Serral's place in SC2 History (following BlizzCon Victory)

Best Player of 2018 (485)
 
63%

Best foreigner of 2018 (128)
 
17%

GOAT (106)
 
14%

Best Zerg of 2018 (26)
 
3%

Noob foreigner (23)
 
3%

768 total votes

Your vote: Serral's place in SC2 History (following BlizzCon Victory)

(Vote): Best foreigner of 2018
(Vote): Best Zerg of 2018
(Vote): Best Player of 2018
(Vote): GOAT
(Vote): Noob foreigner




He is a beast and all those wins are crazy, but three consecutive GSLs is still more impressive for me. Best Foreigner of All Time and Current Best Zerg (possibly in the running for best all time) but best player? Nah, still Maru.

I sucks to be Maru right now. Any other year in SC2 history winning all 3 GSLs would cement you as best player no questions asked, but now Serral throws some doubt on that.

Well.. now that I'm looking at Serral's actual tournament wins, his run looks much less impressive. Obviously he gets props for winning the World Championship, but Maru is far, far ahead in my opinion. Maru won tournaments against objectively better opponents, Serral won the big, subjective story-line.
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
November 05 2018 05:54 GMT
#94
Congratz!

I think he should switch to Terran then Protoss and repeat the achievement
Liquid HerO Best Toss in the World
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
November 05 2018 05:55 GMT
#95
On November 05 2018 14:34 ReditusSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2018 08:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 05 2018 08:34 ReditusSum wrote:
On November 05 2018 05:02 Dave4 wrote:
6 Premier victories in one calendar year. And he can still make it 7.

Absolutely Savage.


Poll: Serral's place in SC2 History (following BlizzCon Victory)

Best Player of 2018 (485)
 
63%

Best foreigner of 2018 (128)
 
17%

GOAT (106)
 
14%

Best Zerg of 2018 (26)
 
3%

Noob foreigner (23)
 
3%

768 total votes

Your vote: Serral's place in SC2 History (following BlizzCon Victory)

(Vote): Best foreigner of 2018
(Vote): Best Zerg of 2018
(Vote): Best Player of 2018
(Vote): GOAT
(Vote): Noob foreigner




He is a beast and all those wins are crazy, but three consecutive GSLs is still more impressive for me. Best Foreigner of All Time and Current Best Zerg (possibly in the running for best all time) but best player? Nah, still Maru.

I sucks to be Maru right now. Any other year in SC2 history winning all 3 GSLs would cement you as best player no questions asked, but now Serral throws some doubt on that.

Well.. now that I'm looking at Serral's actual tournament wins, his run looks much less impressive. Obviously he gets props for winning the World Championship, but Maru is far, far ahead in my opinion. Maru won tournaments against objectively better opponents, Serral won the big, subjective story-line.


It's definitely not a Cinderella story because Serral was never the underdog (in a lot of people's mind). But I wouldn't take away from his opponents because all of his games were super exiting to watch.
Kinda biased coz I'm a Zerg but still xD
How do u doto?
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
November 05 2018 05:57 GMT
#96
On November 05 2018 14:04 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2018 13:55 Boucot wrote:
On November 05 2018 13:13 BjoernK wrote:
I would be very interested in Korean news/social media about Serral. What are they saying about his run and him as a player?

There's a reddit post about it.


"His autograph skills are poor" was my favorite :p


You have no idea... Serral signed my poster and it legit looked like I got a third grader to forge it. But it's okay because at least I know he's spending time practicing sc2 instead of writing.
Mountain_Lee
Profile Joined January 2018
87 Posts
November 05 2018 07:43 GMT
#97
Serral!Serral!Serral!
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
November 05 2018 07:58 GMT
#98
Serral is like a machine, like Innovation god mode in his best moments, no emotions. It makes me feel little strange. I predicted Stats to take it all and I was close, but in the very end Stats was the one who made his first mistakes. Serral was totally perfect in any aspect of the year. He beat Dark earlier and played just like Dark with perfect air/zerg in the end with incredible viper grabs.
In the beginning of the Grand finals I thought that Serral is great, but still he had no consistent experience with top korrean players. Now he made huge jump in the history.

Congratulations and well deserved!
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
tagliatelle
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada69 Posts
November 05 2018 08:30 GMT
#99
Did Serral ever kiss the trophy on stage?? I was watching the ceremony and I don't remember him ever kissing the trophy. If he didn't, why is no one else talking about this, it's a thing in basically every sport.
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
November 05 2018 08:49 GMT
#100
On November 05 2018 14:34 ReditusSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2018 08:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 05 2018 08:34 ReditusSum wrote:
On November 05 2018 05:02 Dave4 wrote:
6 Premier victories in one calendar year. And he can still make it 7.

Absolutely Savage.


Poll: Serral's place in SC2 History (following BlizzCon Victory)

Best Player of 2018 (485)
 
63%

Best foreigner of 2018 (128)
 
17%

GOAT (106)
 
14%

Best Zerg of 2018 (26)
 
3%

Noob foreigner (23)
 
3%

768 total votes

Your vote: Serral's place in SC2 History (following BlizzCon Victory)

(Vote): Best foreigner of 2018
(Vote): Best Zerg of 2018
(Vote): Best Player of 2018
(Vote): GOAT
(Vote): Noob foreigner




He is a beast and all those wins are crazy, but three consecutive GSLs is still more impressive for me. Best Foreigner of All Time and Current Best Zerg (possibly in the running for best all time) but best player? Nah, still Maru.

I sucks to be Maru right now. Any other year in SC2 history winning all 3 GSLs would cement you as best player no questions asked, but now Serral throws some doubt on that.

Well.. now that I'm looking at Serral's actual tournament wins, his run looks much less impressive. Obviously he gets props for winning the World Championship, but Maru is far, far ahead in my opinion. Maru won tournaments against objectively better opponents, Serral won the big, subjective story-line.


As impressive as Maru was I think Serral was more impressive. Serral won two tournaments filled with top tier koreans in addition to four!! Straight WCS events. As good as Maru was this year it is undeniable that Maru failed to win several key matches, notably at GSL vs the World and Blizzcon. I don't think it is fair to call Maru the better player when he failed to defeat Serral on the latest patch. You can argue 3 GSl is impressive but I would say that the caliber of players that Serral defeated at Blizzcon and GSL are about equal and the 4 WCS match at least 1 GSL.
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