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SC2Player000
Profile Joined June 2018
19 Posts
July 07 2018 05:49 GMT
#1
I know how to play well, I think I can spend quality time playing offline tournament, I may even win 500 euros or more, it would pay for the trip and time, you know. However, I cant seem to find dedicated website on these events, as far as I know its straight forward, you register either online or at the place, go to the tournament location, play against many people and in turn qualify for the groups. Am I right ?

Where can I find more solid information on the ways to register for circuits and other major events where anybody could try their luck ?

Besides, anyone of you could share experiences from offline tournaments how the whole process of registering and playing went and your overall experience ?
Saggymidgetbooty6969
Profile Joined September 2015
112 Posts
July 07 2018 06:08 GMT
#2
whats your mmr?
SC2Player000
Profile Joined June 2018
19 Posts
July 07 2018 06:21 GMT
#3
Mine is anywhere up to ~5000
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
July 07 2018 06:30 GMT
#4
You won't make money below 6.5k MMR.
You can still try competing for fun though.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SC2Player000
Profile Joined June 2018
19 Posts
July 07 2018 06:37 GMT
#5
I understand very well that I cant win large sums of money or win against professionals who do it for a living, however the whole experience of going somewhere to play for money, competing against individuals who also committed time, funds and effort to do it is good, besides its something to remember, like holiday trip.
serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
July 07 2018 07:41 GMT
#6
WCS events have open sign ups that you can fly out to, the next one you can sign up for is WCS Montreal (Wiki)2018 WCS Montreal I don't have any experience first hand to help you with though, sorry about that.
SC2Player000
Profile Joined June 2018
19 Posts
July 07 2018 08:00 GMT
#7
Anyone knows how to sign up for Montreal Starcraft 2 tournament? I can find info on buying the tickets for DreamHack Montreal 2018, but besides that, not much on '' Participate in Starcraft 2 Montreal Tournament Yourself '' kind off sign ups.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 07 2018 08:02 GMT
#8
You buy the player pass when tickets are released.
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SC2Player000
Profile Joined June 2018
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-07 10:22:46
July 07 2018 08:09 GMT
#9
For DreamHack Valencia 2018 I found LAN Tickets, I think these are ' bring your own computer ' type tournaments, with the ticket and confirmed place in the tournament you can participate, but I am not sure if there are any Starcraft 2 ones, follow the link to https://shop.dreamhack.com/es/categoria-producto/dreamhack-valencia-2018/

Hopefully its not out of date.
TheKhyira
Profile Joined May 2012
115 Posts
July 07 2018 09:20 GMT
#10
The SC2 scene has almost no money in it at all given the very niche playerbase. If you´re not a pro you won´t make money.
SC2Player000
Profile Joined June 2018
19 Posts
July 07 2018 09:43 GMT
#11
On July 07 2018 18:20 TheKhyira wrote:
The SC2 scene has almost no money in it at all given the very niche playerbase. If you´re not a pro you won´t make money.


From minor tournaments alone you could get 100 thousand dollars in total prize cashout to the players. Could you give me top 5 sports that have more than '' almost no money '' so that non professional could make a lot of money because that sport has '' a lot of money in it '' ?
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
July 07 2018 10:09 GMT
#12
On July 07 2018 18:43 SC2Player000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2018 18:20 TheKhyira wrote:
The SC2 scene has almost no money in it at all given the very niche playerbase. If you´re not a pro you won´t make money.


From minor tournaments alone you could get 100 thousand dollars in total prize cashout to the players. Could you give me top 5 sports that have more than '' almost no money '' so that non professional could make a lot of money because that sport has '' a lot of money in it '' ?

Where are such tournaments (for sc2)?
And if this is true, you get that such money IF you win ALL tournaments. If you always finish top4 at every major tournament, you "only" won ~30k € a year. If you are looking for adventure in your young life, then esports is a very good spot.
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SC2Player000
Profile Joined June 2018
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-07 10:21:13
July 07 2018 10:20 GMT
#13
On July 07 2018 19:09 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2018 18:43 SC2Player000 wrote:
On July 07 2018 18:20 TheKhyira wrote:
The SC2 scene has almost no money in it at all given the very niche playerbase. If you´re not a pro you won´t make money.


From minor tournaments alone you could get 100 thousand dollars in total prize cashout to the players. Could you give me top 5 sports that have more than '' almost no money '' so that non professional could make a lot of money because that sport has '' a lot of money in it '' ?

Where are such tournaments (for sc2)?
And if this is true, you get that such money IF you win ALL tournaments. If you always finish top4 at every major tournament, you "only" won ~30k € a year. If you are looking for adventure in your young life, then esports is a very good spot.


Winning most of those monthly, weekly and minor tournaments would certainly be an adventure. Go to (Wiki)Minor Tournaments use the tabs to go through various types at the top, will see a list of all known cups to liquipedia.net and its a lot to choose from if you know how to register for them.
Syn Harvest
Profile Joined July 2012
United States191 Posts
July 07 2018 11:10 GMT
#14
You want to make money playing video games SC2 is not the game. Start streaming one of the top 5 viewed games on Twitch and build a brand around a character. Thats the only way to really make money in gaming.
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Aunvilgodess
Profile Joined May 2016
954 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-07 12:30:52
July 07 2018 12:30 GMT
#15
On July 07 2018 18:43 SC2Player000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2018 18:20 TheKhyira wrote:
The SC2 scene has almost no money in it at all given the very niche playerbase. If you´re not a pro you won´t make money.


From minor tournaments alone you could get 100 thousand dollars in total prize cashout to the players. Could you give me top 5 sports that have more than '' almost no money '' so that non professional could make a lot of money because that sport has '' a lot of money in it '' ?


All the minor tournaments are played by pros or semi-pros. Making money if you aren't GM is extremely unlikely unless you find some niche LANS that the Pros overlooked.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-07 12:54:43
July 07 2018 12:47 GMT
#16
You don't.

Even if you theoretically won every tourney, you won't be able to end up supporting yourself for more than a year or two? Even all current pros if they don't have streams or degrees will have zero to fall back on unless they are getting a good salary from a team, which there are very few of or non-existent for SC2 since SC2 is essentially dead compared to it's prime time days.

So the only way now is to be entertaining on twitch and be really skilled as well at SC2. Even many SC2 korean progamers have realized this, such as Parting who is very smart and building himself up more on twitch, he's prob the best example i can think of that is/was a good pro that's won lots of prize money but looks to me like he's solidifying his future via streaming on twitch.

Unless you plan on literally winning every current tourney and coming in 1st, there is no way to make money from SC2 other than becoming a twitch streamer - and again, unless you are really dedicated, that won't happen for you either because the SC2 viewer base is really low compared to other games.

On July 07 2018 20:10 Syn Harvest wrote:
You want to make money playing video games SC2 is not the game. Start streaming one of the top 5 viewed games on Twitch and build a brand around a character. Thats the only way to really make money in gaming.


Basically, take this guy's advice, even known SC2 streamers like myself, and others are branching out into other games because there's no reason not to and it's only beneficial to do so as a streamer to grow one's stream and viewer base.

If SC3 comes out, or another expansion...the scene would probably jump back to life again numbers-wise and there'd be a lot more opportunities again.

Other than all of the above...just get really good at the game and do good at LAN events, that's how you START, but winning prize money is not a guarantee, and you'll most likely lose money just getting to events because of having to pay for travel/hotel type of things.

Btw, in case the community did not notice, most Brood War pros about a year or so ago did exactly as i described - they all now have their own personal streams and took the streaming route regardless of how good or bad they were as pros. Best example? Flash, god of SC1, won many SC1 tournaments in S.Korea and him and players like Larva went full time streaming.

Same thing has happened with SC2, and it's kinda funny that a lot of SC2 "progamers" don't realize how bad it is to not have a streaming presence or no higher education. This is personally why i decided to focus my efforts streaming as in the long run it's something you can grow like a plant or a tree rather than "going pro and winning a tournament" which to me is just a person eating an apple off of the tree and not thinking of growing the tree that grows the apples.

Basically, my advice to you is you definitely can earn some money from SC2 and having passion for the game - but i'd recommend focusing on streaming rather than winning tournaments. If you can do both though, that's good.
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
July 07 2018 13:41 GMT
#17
All you have to do is git gud. For some it might be a matter of two-three years of hardcorde grinding day in day out, for me it's been almost 8 years and I've barely made any money at all. Plus, you might get stuck at the top of the ladder for an extended period of time before breaking out onto the scene. You don't come into this with a business plan, rather the intent to improve and the right mindset. If it works out, great, you're making money doing what you love. If it doesn't you're kind of buggered.

Oh, and don't BM ppl on your way to the top, I learned this the hard way :D
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
July 07 2018 15:20 GMT
#18
Just look at the tournaments section of this forum theres always small tournaments going on. The problem is that professional or at least very good players sign up for those as well. For example i signed up for some osc tournament with a $100 total prize pool and had to play losira in the first round. There were also players like parting etc signed up.

As for offline tournaments, even in buttfuck ville manitoba canada, about as far away from the sc scene you can get. You will face gm players 5.5k mmr and possibly even higher. All for a relatively small prize.

The only way youre going to make money at your skill level, without improving signifigantly, would be to find tournaments that the better players havent heard of. Which is going to be impossible since some of them will actually rely on this stuff as part if their income.
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Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
July 07 2018 15:25 GMT
#19
On July 07 2018 15:30 Charoisaur wrote:
You won't make money below 6.5k MMR.
You can still try competing for fun though.



6k is enough for online daily NA cups. $10-50 for first second places
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
July 07 2018 15:43 GMT
#20
On July 08 2018 00:25 Obamarauder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2018 15:30 Charoisaur wrote:
You won't make money below 6.5k MMR.
You can still try competing for fun though.



6k is enough for online daily NA cups. $10-50 for first second places

The average MMR on NA is lower though so 6k MMR on NA doesn't equal 6k MMR on EU.
6k MMR on NA would be top 20 and on EU like top 90 so it's obviously harder to get to 6k on NA.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
July 07 2018 17:42 GMT
#21
You can participate in WCS, and keep an eye open for smaller Lan in your area, facebook, reddit and twitter can be good place to look, liquipedia dosen't list all the smaller lan. If your in a big city going to your local esport bar/café can be a good option too.
However it will 100% cost you more money then you will earn, if you ever earn any. If you want a feel of it online you can try go4sc2 or any small online cup even in the small 25 or 100$ event you will probably not win more then one series if your MMR is around 5000 (so I guess master 1-2).

But if you just want to compete it can be fun go for it, just go into it expecting to get smaked around quite a lot. I only played in one Lan (Ets 2016) and at diamon 2 at the time I was clearly outmatch by everyone but still had a good time.
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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
July 07 2018 17:43 GMT
#22
On July 07 2018 15:21 SC2Player000 wrote:
Mine is anywhere up to ~5000


that's not even really an answer. start here if you want to compete. more realistically, join a clan on NA or something and they will help you compete for them and possibly for money if you get good enough.
jay3571992
Profile Joined July 2018
2 Posts
July 07 2018 21:26 GMT
#23
try to participate in Chinese tournaments
like kung fu cup ($500 weekly)
or offline WESG ($200k for the 1st)
these are easy money for foreigners
China have a 1.3 billion market and mountains of money
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
July 07 2018 22:29 GMT
#24
Chinese online events are dominated by Koreans and top tier Chinese players. Most NA players don't even stand a chance.
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BaronSamedi
Profile Joined June 2020
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-16 10:34:18
June 09 2020 13:06 GMT
#25
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
June 09 2020 13:45 GMT
#26
On June 09 2020 22:06 BaronSamedi wrote:
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but right now I have a same question. There is a tournament with a $700 prize and I'm thinking - does it worth to spend money traveling from one city to another just to try it?

Do it if you want to have fun at a tournament and meet other Starcraft nerds. Unless you are at least in GM don't expect to make any money, maybe if the lineup is really weak you could brake even.
What's the tournament?
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GB_TimD
Profile Joined August 2020
United Kingdom3 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-13 08:58:14
November 02 2020 22:19 GMT
#27
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 03 2020 04:49 GMT
#28
On November 03 2020 07:19 GB_TimD wrote:
It sounds funny, but you can make real money, by planing games, and I am being serious.

Yes.
Check the Liquipedia pages from Players, they list total price money won. On top of that its twitch subscibers + Team salary.
You re not getting so rich,that Don t have to work ever again After your esports carrer, but it can actually pay for a giving, if you re actually good
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
November 03 2020 05:47 GMT
#29
ya, before that tho u gotta make sure u check the thread created date. uheuhue
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United States43980 Posts
November 03 2020 07:44 GMT
#30
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