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GSL RO8 Preview: Zest vs Dear, TY vs GuMiho

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GSL RO8 Preview: Zest vs Dear, TY vs GuMiho

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
June 8th, 2018 02:10 GMT

Quarterfinal #3: Zest vs Dear

by Destructicon
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Global StarCraft 2 League Code S - 2018 Season 2
Start time: Saturday, Jun 09 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

The third quarterfinal match features two champions of yore clashing in the pursuit of new glory. Both (Wiki)Zest and (Wiki)Dear are past their days of unbridled dominance, but have somehow managed to survive two rounds of group stages against some of the hottest players of the times. Unfortunately, only one player will be allowed to continue their run of resurgence. Both players have looked shaky throughout the year, and reaching the semifinals alone wouldn't proclaim their return to previous form. However, they deserve a ton of credit for slowly and steadily climbing back up the ranks. At the very least, they've proved they have plenty of fight left in them.

Protoss vs Protoss is a match-up that Zest has historically excelled at, but surprisingly, he lost his first PvP series of the tournament to Trap in the RO32 (Zest kept his composure to defeat SortOf and make it to the RO16). He then faced the ignominy of being selected to be a part of Maru's "group of life" in the RO16, and was forced to contemplate elimination after he lost his first series to SOlar. He rebounded by soundly defeating Patience and even ran circles around Solar in the rematch. With all Zergs now out of the tournament, this is the most favorable tournament bracket Zest has seen in a long time.

Dear had a bit of a cleaner, and in some ways, far more impressive GSL run. He got stuck in a group with Maru in the RO32, and while he was unable to defeat his old rival, he instead trashed Bunny in two series. Dear got to really shine in the RO16, where he defeated not only soO—one of the most consistent players we’ve seen across the years— but also present #1 Zerg Rogue. In those games, we saw glimpses of his past magnificence.

While Dear is the clear winner in terms of overall form, it's a lot harder to determine who is actually the better player in terms of PvP. Dear’s Aligulac.com stats over the past two months includes only a 2-0 against the Taiwanese player Nice. Zest on the other hand has played 57 PvP games, but the vast majority of his wins are padded from online cups and facing weaker players. His only notable recent opponents were Patience in the GSL and herO in some online cups.

Overall, I am going to give my nod of confidence to Dear, because he has shown the steadiest and most notable improvements this year. Given enough preparation he can even defeat a PvP expert like Zest, especially in his diminished form.

Prediction: Zest 2 – 3 Dear

Quarterfinal #4: TY vs GuMiho


Our second Ro8 has two of the strangest Terran players facing off against each other. While their approach to the game is quite different in terms of styles both (Wiki)TY and (Wiki)GuMiho have one thing in common: they both try to harness the primordial forces of chaos.

TY is much more calculated in his use of chaos (as paradoxical as that may sound), employing devastating early pushes followed by frantic, multi-front attacks. It might just be scientific precision masquerading as chaos—all of TY's multi-tasking seems to serve a long term plan of dissecting and tearing his opponent apart. GuMiho, on the other hand, doesn’t seem to follow a specific pattern. He cheeses, he macros, he mechs, and he drops, all in a near infinite spectrum of colors. None of it has a greater purpose than confusing his opponent. He values chaos for chaos' sake.

TY’s RO16 elimination from the previous GSL, as well as his other lackluster results seems to have served as a wake-up call for him. He was cautious and clinical in the RO32, advancing in first place after defeating Impact and Cure. The players showed their respect for TY’s skill in the group nominations, seeing him being one of the last picks. TY quickly proved why, defeating Trap easily in the RO16, while even giving top PvT player Classic a real run for his money.

GuMiho had a smoother road to the quarterfinals, first cruising past his RO32 group by defeating both Losira and Scarlett. In the RO16 GuMiho, faced off against his Protoss counterpart in chaos, sOs. While the Trickster went up a map, it was the Prince of Chaos who would win the series. GuMiho then had no issue defeating ByuN to punch in his ticket to the RO8.

Both players are adept at preparing for series and bringing unpredictable builds, making it extremely hard to determine who should win. Looking at their respective TvT records, however, the results seems a lot less random. TY tones down his online tournament activity during the GSL, and his only notable opponents in TvT were KeeN, Cure, Bunny and GuMiho himself. Against them, he put up a modest 58.33% win rate. GuMiho, on the other hand has faced INnoVation, Cure, ByuN, Ryung, aLive, KeeN and TY, and has a more impressive 66.67% win rate.

Given GuMiho's TvT prowess, the quality of the opponents he has faced, and the victories he has earned against TY himself, it seems likely that GuMiho will be the one who continues to marshal the forces of chaos in the GSL.

Prediction: TY 2 - 3 GuMiho



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Global StarCraft II League Season 2: Code S



Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: Destructicon
Editor: Wax
Images: AfreecaTV
Statistics: Aligulac.com
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
June 08 2018 02:20 GMT
#2
I probably shouldn't say this, because Artosis said it too, but I'm feeling Classic this tournament.
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CaptainBurnTurn
Profile Joined February 2018
United States80 Posts
June 08 2018 04:06 GMT
#3
Please let GuMiho win this one, or Dear. Classic is probably going to beat Maru like he has all year. Who ever Classic/Maru faces in the finals is going to have a really hard time, but I can see either of them (Dear/GuMiho) beating one of those two if they really tried.
Mark my words, sOs will win a GSL one day
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 04:20:09
June 08 2018 04:18 GMT
#4
Dear over Zest is surprising, I think that's gonna be about as one-sided as Classic vs ByuN. dat record

Gumiho vs TY should go the distance with Gumi being victorious.

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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
June 08 2018 05:01 GMT
#5
Wish it was two PvTs... but honestly, TY will beat Gumi 3-1 and Dear will beat Zest 3-2.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 08 2018 05:38 GMT
#6
The only player who has better record vs Dear than Zest is herO ;o
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 08 2018 06:17 GMT
#7
Zest will beat Dear for sure, he is one of the best PvP players when he isn't trying to replicate sOs level mind games with dark shrines.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 08 2018 07:10 GMT
#8
Wow both predictions are wrong!
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
June 08 2018 13:09 GMT
#9
Okay Dear has won his group but I still dont believe in him. Plus he always looks ridiculously bad in PvP. Zest should have it.
TY is an absolute monster in TvT and he seems to be in top form. I think he has this, although the master of preparation Gumi will give him a tough fight.

(P)(P)Zest 3-1 (P)(P)Dear
(T)(T)TY 3-2 (T)(T)GuMiho
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 14:07:18
June 08 2018 14:01 GMT
#10
On June 08 2018 11:10 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
TY tones down his online tournament activity during the GSL, and his only notable opponents in TvT were KeeN, Cure, Bunny and GuMiho himself. Against them, he put up a modest 58.33% win rate.

If you're gonna mention matches against KeeN and Bunny you should probably use a winrate that includes those games.
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
June 08 2018 14:14 GMT
#11
It's gonna be Zest and TY you'll see
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
June 08 2018 14:18 GMT
#12
TY vs GuMiho could really go either way. I keep wanting to convince myself that TY should win after seeing his recent games, but my gut pretty much agrees with these predictions.
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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States726 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 14:40:40
June 08 2018 14:40 GMT
#13
I like the Gumiho prediction

Zest gonna beat dear though
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Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
June 08 2018 14:42 GMT
#14
Zest and TY get out IMO. And I think at least one of the series will be 3-1 or 3-0, I don't suspect both will be all that close.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 08 2018 15:45 GMT
#15
Fun fact: Dear has never beaten Zest (offline) outside of proleague bo1s
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
June 08 2018 21:26 GMT
#16
TY over Gumiho in a chaotic series, and my gut tells me Zest so I'm just gonna roll with that.
Now that Proleague is back* the stars will align for a SKT Classic v KT TY Finals.
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
June 08 2018 21:41 GMT
#17
I think we will end up with a Zest vs Classic finals this GSL
Have a nice day ;)
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
June 08 2018 22:39 GMT
#18
Zest should technically have a landslide victory against Dear, considering his immaculate PvP.

TY vs Gumi could be interesting though. I should say TY but Gumi is often very slept on
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
June 09 2018 10:36 GMT
#19
Both predictions wrong GG
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