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Everready
Profile Joined June 2012
United States42 Posts
January 24 2017 22:15 GMT
#61
On January 25 2017 01:40 SpecKROELLchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 01:19 opisska wrote:
On January 25 2017 00:21 KalWarkov wrote:
On January 24 2017 13:44 opisska wrote:
I wonder how many hundreds of megabytes i will have to download this time, only for my gameplay experience to stay almost exactly the same as before


Ever played dota2? you basically download 50-200 MB every day, sometimes twice and basically nothing changes.


And your point is? That something is even more stupid is not an excuse to other stupidity.

My favorite part is however how I have to constantly update battle.net itself, even though I do not care about the app at all and it brings me absolutely zero benefits. The arrogance on Blizzard's side towards people with slow internet is endless.


We are getting a little bit offtopic here, but want to give my 2cent on the bnet client.
I used Teamspeak, then in parallel tried skype for some years, but recently my friends and me
started using the bnet clients voice chat and the chatroom.
Its pretty nice since you have all in one program and for my part i have to say none of us had
any issues using it. It just worked perfectly (well this is just about 20 people so the statistics are not very good ;D).
And you do not have to run another program besides the client that you use anyways.
So i think blizzard provided something great that is totally underused.

Also if you compare it to any other game. They are all related to steam that you have to start
in some way. And i think the bnet client is way more elegant than steam is.
Of course this is subjective and everyone has its own opinion about this and i can undestand
your hate towards the updates.
But somehow you have to get the improvements to the user. And if the game updates or a client...


I completely agree with you here. My friends and I use B.Net chat almost exclusively now too.

Most games today that aren't Blizzard games must either update through Steam or something else like Origin, uPlay, etc. The gaming world has changed. You no longer go to a store and pick up your SNES Super Mario cartridge, or even a PS2 disc, and whatever is on that media is what you get. Games are now meant to constantly evolve, be patched, fix bugs, etc. People now expect this model and usually get mad at a developer when there is radio silence and no updates to their game.

So don't be mad at Blizzard that the industry is changed, or that you may live in an area with only poor ISPs. Be mad that the infrastructure in your community isn't up to snuff. There are many areas around the world where reliable fast internet isn't available, and that sucks when we live in 2017.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 24 2017 22:17 GMT
#62
On January 25 2017 07:06 Cheesologist wrote:
After many seasons, I can honestly say that this is one awful map pool. And enough of these horrible free natural expansions. Can we go back to actual Starcraft?


Well you need free naturals because your main mines out in roughly 3 minutes.
Cereal
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
January 24 2017 22:20 GMT
#63
This map pool is so bad it's insulting. It's a middle finger. I can't see on most of the maps. Like playing in pitch dark. No go. And on the maps I can see... you have stuff like unwallable mains and maps that make you feel like you're battling a dude inside a closet.

So bad, can't even bother to play anymore.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
January 25 2017 00:29 GMT
#64
Yay i love having to download 700mb of co-op missions so that I can mess around on the arcade for an hour..
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 25 2017 00:49 GMT
#65
On January 25 2017 09:29 TheFish7 wrote:
Yay i love having to download 700mb of co-op missions so that I can mess around on the arcade for an hour..


Disk space is cheap these days. Internet is getting faster. Whining too much? If you say Blizzard didn't do enough, then you have a right to complain.
Ecliptium
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada147 Posts
January 25 2017 00:52 GMT
#66
I cant even see on abyssal reef.So dark it hurts
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
January 25 2017 00:57 GMT
#67
Really? So far the maps don't seem too bad to me, anything is better than Ulrena and Dasan Station.
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
January 25 2017 01:09 GMT
#68
On January 25 2017 09:52 Ecliptium wrote:
I cant even see on abyssal reef.So dark it hurts


Yeah I changed my graphics to low because it was bothering my eyes so much. Might just veto it.
Ecliptium
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada147 Posts
January 25 2017 01:11 GMT
#69
On January 25 2017 10:09 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 09:52 Ecliptium wrote:
I cant even see on abyssal reef.So dark it hurts


Yeah I changed my graphics to low because it was bothering my eyes so much. Might just veto it.


After that first game it's vetod for me. Unbearable
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5542 Posts
January 25 2017 02:29 GMT
#70
On January 25 2017 10:11 Ecliptium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 10:09 Lil_nooblet wrote:
On January 25 2017 09:52 Ecliptium wrote:
I cant even see on abyssal reef.So dark it hurts


Yeah I changed my graphics to low because it was bothering my eyes so much. Might just veto it.


After that first game it's vetod for me. Unbearable

You guys find abyssal dark? I find it super bright...

Mostly medium settings.
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playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-25 02:41:26
January 25 2017 02:40 GMT
#71
Playing on Proxima is like staring into an abyss or a blackhole. Getting sucked into the darkness, expecting to be torn apart at any second. Next patch: give Toss units some flash lights or some miner hats with a light on it. As biased as this game is, probably couldn't even get that. Would be argued as too OP and game breaking.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-25 06:37:12
January 25 2017 06:23 GMT
#72
ugh I hate to use this forum for this so please forgive ...

Has anyone use their Name Change and now have trouble logging in? Every time I try to log in, it asks me to change my name like normal - then won't let me login and asks me to play offline.

.. alternatively is anyone also just having plain old trouble logging on right now? Might it be that?

thank you.

edit: Fixed. Apparently if you use a name that is unacceptable, it doesn't give you any kind of relevant message, it just tells you that you cannot connect and to check your internet. Awesome.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 25 2017 06:37 GMT
#73
On January 25 2017 09:49 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 09:29 TheFish7 wrote:
Yay i love having to download 700mb of co-op missions so that I can mess around on the arcade for an hour..


Disk space is cheap these days. Internet is getting faster. Whining too much? If you say Blizzard didn't do enough, then you have a right to complain.


Is Blizzard paying you for this, or do you stick your head up their ass for free? Do you realize that they could as well have made it so that you download only what you actually care about, or they could have made it much more data efficient (because honestly, the data volumes are absurd even for all the changes), but they haven't done that, because it would cost them money to develop and they prefer to shift those costs to the customers instead? Why on Earth do you feel the need to defend a corporation behaving in a selfish way?

The other argument "this is how it is done nowadays" is really one of the stupidest lines of thought in existence and it is the bane of today's society - people without the ability to form their own opinion on things accept the current state of a product and start vigorously defending it, because it makes them look smart, even though it is not better for anyone but the corporation that produces said product. The willingness of people to behave in this absurd way is the sole reason for the success of Apple and similar corporations who now say literal shit covered in sprinkles, yet they have a million-headed herd of marketeers that they don't even need to pay.

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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
January 25 2017 06:52 GMT
#74
Man all the narrow chokes all over these maps. Reminds me of Red City. There are hardly any open spaces anywhere for a decent surround. The only one with any decent open space is Newkirk and maybe Honorgrounds.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1962 Posts
January 25 2017 09:15 GMT
#75
On January 24 2017 20:41 blunderfulguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 19:58 FO-nTTaX wrote:
I'm always sad when i see old maps make a comeback. So many new maps out there :x

Yep, I want the new maps so, so much more than maps I got burned out from playing in HotS.


Yeah and while we're at it, they could also at least rotate some maps for the previous expansions, as well. And implement automated tournaments for those.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1962 Posts
January 25 2017 09:33 GMT
#76
On January 25 2017 15:37 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 09:49 Shield wrote:
On January 25 2017 09:29 TheFish7 wrote:
Yay i love having to download 700mb of co-op missions so that I can mess around on the arcade for an hour..


Disk space is cheap these days. Internet is getting faster. Whining too much? If you say Blizzard didn't do enough, then you have a right to complain.


Is Blizzard paying you for this, or do you stick your head up their ass for free? Do you realize that they could as well have made it so that you download only what you actually care about, or they could have made it much more data efficient (because honestly, the data volumes are absurd even for all the changes), but they haven't done that, because it would cost them money to develop and they prefer to shift those costs to the customers instead? Why on Earth do you feel the need to defend a corporation behaving in a selfish way?

The other argument "this is how it is done nowadays" is really one of the stupidest lines of thought in existence and it is the bane of today's society - people without the ability to form their own opinion on things accept the current state of a product and start vigorously defending it, because it makes them look smart, even though it is not better for anyone but the corporation that produces said product. The willingness of people to behave in this absurd way is the sole reason for the success of Apple and similar corporations who now say literal shit covered in sprinkles, yet they have a million-headed herd of marketeers that they don't even need to pay.


Well put, but this phenomenon unfortunately is kinda common among people, thinking critically is too demanding for lots of them, they just don't want things to be complicated. Kinda the same with 'business is business', an easy excuse for just being selfish and not wanting to care about morale or ethics.

The sad reality, however, is that this probably won't change, as long as there are no customer-oriented standards for gamers, corporations will always try to change things up a little for worse and trying to get away with it. Things like frequency of patches, small updates, micro transactions (fuck them), gambling (CS:GO *cough*), those things just shouldn't be a common thing, at all.

So yeah, not gonna buy anything, please let me opt out of those pesky updates. Thing is, if they want to have micro transactions in SC2 that badly, fuck you hard, I don't like it, but FFS then make mutiplayer F2P, at least.
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1387 Posts
January 25 2017 12:12 GMT
#77
OpenGL 4.1 and Metal are now supported on OSX , really nice of Blizzard to continue this development.
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
SCHWARZENEGGER
Profile Joined July 2016
206 Posts
January 25 2017 14:07 GMT
#78
on abyssal reef scv who build refinery at 4th base in the middle can stuck lol
Ignorant prodigy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States385 Posts
January 25 2017 14:39 GMT
#79
is it just me or is paladino's main extremely susceptible to doom drops?
http://www.twitch.tv/ignorantprodigy playing masters random with no hotkeys......big pimpin'
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
January 25 2017 19:51 GMT
#80
On January 25 2017 15:37 opisska wrote:
Do you realize that they could as well have made it so that you download only what you actually care about, or they could have made it much more data efficient (because honestly, the data volumes are absurd even for all the changes)


That. It seems like they don't know how to make a differential patch at Blizzard. So they do 5 very small bugs fixes and some minor changes ( a few dozens/hundreds lines of code ), compile everything, and then you downloads every modified (agglomerated archive) file.

It's the most inefficient way ever. It's like bulldozing half an house and then rebuild it to modify the painting of a door. Even for a Beta it's considered bad, it's like pre-alpha stage practice...

The best part is, besides annoying lots of players with bad or average internet, Blizzard looses money doing this. They need way more bandwidth and servers resources than with the correct way to do it. It's not even complicated to do it. Everyone do it, from steam to Windows, Linux, etc. Free software do this, and do this very well.

So they annoy people, waste money, time and energy, for no reason at all (except pure incompetence ).
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