• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:42
CEST 02:42
KST 09:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?66Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!40Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL: II Winner Will Earn a Spot at HSC 30! Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) September World Ranking: herO leads, Serral climbs
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly SC2 INu's Battles#20 [BO.9] 2026 GSTL Announcement Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Brood War in Budapest ! WORTEX 2026 BW Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV EVE Corporation [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5483 users

Community Feedback Update - November 2 - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
63 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
November 03 2016 22:23 GMT
#61
On November 04 2016 07:17 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 07:09 aQuaSC wrote:

Personally I'm not against older maps at all, if they don't work in their current state I'd be happy with versions adjusted for LotV, but having older classic maps like Lost/Shattered Temple or Metalopolis adjusted layout-wise to current SC2 is a little dream of mine.

I'm surprised they don't look into community maps more, but I'm happy that David said they're going to be more active with them in the next year (it's like 2-3 months I think).


you don't just adjust maps, shit just doesn't work that way.

with the extreme drought in the mapmaking scene it's amazing it isn't completely extinct by now.

Okay, I don't make maps so I was just guessing it could be done somehow. I never had modifying a map in mind, just a new map with similarities in general layouts/tilesets
TL+ Member
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 12:28:53
November 04 2016 12:26 GMT
#62
On November 04 2016 07:09 aQuaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 06:03 StatixEx wrote:
i know they are old maps but my old age gets the better of me, have they been tried with legacy? i seem to remember having to box my workers?

None of these maps were in LotV. Daybreak was in the game for the half of WoL and in HotS too, the rest was in Heart of the Swarm only.

Personally I'm not against older maps at all, if they don't work in their current state I'd be happy with versions adjusted for LotV, but having older classic maps like Lost/Shattered Temple or Metalopolis adjusted layout-wise to current SC2 is a little dream of mine.

I'm surprised they don't look into community maps more, but I'm happy that David said they're going to be more active with them in the next year (it's like 2-3 months I think). Sometimes I feel that they don't directly reach for community ideas/maps because they fear of community asking for something in exchange, some people are really touchy. Remember Galactic Process drama? Where they changed the rocks?

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/sc2/topic/20745746682


While I agree that in this case they could be in touch with the map creator to have discussion and work with him on the map and "be nice", they have final say what makes to the ladder or not after all, but fucking lol at this tweet.

And tell me how many complaints there are about the map in current state. By the way when I browse the thread it's scary that so many people are willing to theorycraft and say how bad the map is and other ridiculous things while it turned out to be fine with the changes. That's why Blizzard should be reserved with modifying the game and look for advice/suggestions among players above certain level, not among common folk which can be collectively misguided and just say stupid things

Even though I wasn't even active, I didn't even own LotV, I can clearly read that the creator is upset they edited the map without messaging him and involving him in the process.

It was not a case of nerd rage that they used a different doodad. It was changing the map, which his name and reputation was tied to, without even mentioning it to him. He's just a farm they get content from to sell in their game. Not worth discussing with.

That's insanely disrespectful and they treated the community exactly as they see it. Like a wallet.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 13:29:51
November 04 2016 12:40 GMT
#63
On November 04 2016 21:26 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 07:09 aQuaSC wrote:
On November 04 2016 06:03 StatixEx wrote:
i know they are old maps but my old age gets the better of me, have they been tried with legacy? i seem to remember having to box my workers?

None of these maps were in LotV. Daybreak was in the game for the half of WoL and in HotS too, the rest was in Heart of the Swarm only.

Personally I'm not against older maps at all, if they don't work in their current state I'd be happy with versions adjusted for LotV, but having older classic maps like Lost/Shattered Temple or Metalopolis adjusted layout-wise to current SC2 is a little dream of mine.

I'm surprised they don't look into community maps more, but I'm happy that David said they're going to be more active with them in the next year (it's like 2-3 months I think). Sometimes I feel that they don't directly reach for community ideas/maps because they fear of community asking for something in exchange, some people are really touchy. Remember Galactic Process drama? Where they changed the rocks?

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/sc2/topic/20745746682

https://twitter.com/LiquidTLO/status/750961538249453568
While I agree that in this case they could be in touch with the map creator to have discussion and work with him on the map and "be nice", they have final say what makes to the ladder or not after all, but fucking lol at this tweet.

And tell me how many complaints there are about the map in current state. By the way when I browse the thread it's scary that so many people are willing to theorycraft and say how bad the map is and other ridiculous things while it turned out to be fine with the changes. That's why Blizzard should be reserved with modifying the game and look for advice/suggestions among players above certain level, not among common folk which can be collectively misguided and just say stupid things

Even though I wasn't even active, I didn't even own LotV, I can clearly read that the creator is upset they edited the map without messaging him and involving him in the process.

It was not a case of nerd rage that they used a different doodad. It was changing the map, which his name and reputation was tied to, without even mentioning it to him. He's just a farm they get content from to sell in their game. Not worth discussing with.

That's insanely disrespectful and they treated the community exactly as they see it. Like a wallet.

Exactly as they have it under terms of use. That doesn't make being out of touch any better though.

And saying that they treat the community as a "wallet" as you put it is unnecessary demonisation and making Blizzard a supreme evil of some sort. You can say the same thing about your employer. You're nothing but an expendable workforce to him (unless you are truly the best at something). Does it make him instantly bad?

What they did was insensitive and overall really poor but they have final say on what's going to the game or not. And as harsh and even stupid as it sounds, your time spent in the map editor is not making the map your property anyway (again terms of use).

I'm ommitting the entire outrage on how map was going to be completely unplayable after the changes, because it turned out to be fine and with that situation in mind it's possible that the map could be problematic without changes made to it, they always said that they are adjusting the maps to match some performance criteria as well, but if there was a reason to change some textures and other cosmetic stuff besides that they didn't like some of them we'll probably never know.

EDIT: as I see now that you probably weren't around during the drama and how it ended in the end (by getting silent since it was an overreaction), take a look on the comparison screenshots, where minor stuff was changed like position of minerals to be less abusable by Liberators, adding air space between main and third, outside of the natural and close to gold ramp to not make air harass completely unviable, some textures, these damned rocks that turned out to be fine in the end etc.

original map
current version on the ladder after the changes
TL+ Member
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States766 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 00:24:43
November 06 2016 00:24 GMT
#64
did they give a date during blizzcon to when the patch with all the units changes will go live?
Prev 1 2 3 4 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Enki Epic Series #10
Rogue vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings54
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
22:35
GSTL Replay Cast
BASILISK vs Onsyde Gaming
PiGStarcraft410
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft410
ProTech150
NeuroSwarm 133
SpeCial 75
JuggernautJason45
RuFF_SC2 2
StarCraft: Brood War
White-Ra 143
Hyuk 61
Dota 2
capcasts191
League of Legends
Doublelift4689
Counter-Strike
minikerr34
adren_tv12
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox583
Mew2King85
Other Games
summit1g4064
Day[9].tv796
JimRising 514
C9.Mang0276
WinterStarcraft239
XaKoH 164
ViBE70
KnowMe70
Trikslyr46
PPMD45
Maynarde28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1920
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP42
• EnkiAlexander 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22027
Other Games
• Day9tv796
• imaqtpie768
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
18m
Big Brain Bouts
9h 18m
Garitos vs ArT
Lambo vs Percival
TriGGeR vs ByuN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 9h
OSC
1d 11h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 14h
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Patches Events
1d 15h
OSC
1d 23h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
[ Show More ]
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Escore
6 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-02
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.