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On November 07 2016 17:39 Plexa wrote:That looks like a bug, but neither should be spoilered at this point since they're supposed to expire after an hour.
Expire after an hour? I thought spoilered threads would be spoilered for 24 hours. Did you mean "after a day"?
Anyhoo, I had this happen to me too.
+ Show Spoiler +
It is spoilered on the right "Community News" but not the middle nor the left side-bar. I found it strange so I thought I better let you know.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 08 2016 05:10 Melliflue wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2016 17:39 Plexa wrote:On November 07 2016 17:37 nimdil wrote:Clearly this feature is still a bit confusing: + Show Spoiler + That looks like a bug, but neither should be spoilered at this point since they're supposed to expire after an hour. Expire after an hour? I thought spoilered threads would be spoilered for 24 hours. Did you mean "after a day"? Anyhoo, I had this happen to me too. + Show Spoiler +It is spoilered on the right "Community News" but not the middle nor the left side-bar. I found it strange so I thought I better let you know.
Yes I meant after a day.
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It's spoilered on the frontpage but not in the bar. If the HSC thread had a name like : X wins, it will show on the left bar. For exemple, i did not click on "Show spoiler in the front page" but i can see the thread name in the lleft bar
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 21 2016 16:34 FFW_Rude wrote:
It's spoilered on the frontpage but not in the bar. If the HSC thread had a name like : X wins, it will show on the left bar. For exemple, i did not click on "Show spoiler in the front page" but i can see the thread name in the lleft bar
Theres only old news in the sidebar right now. (it's a recap of the group stages not the playoffs which were today). The Frontpage bug is already known but thank you for reporting it.
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I just wanted to say thank you, this feature is simply flawless. This is outstanding work!
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Netherlands4641 Posts
Would it be an idea to add a spoiler-free Home link among these?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 12 2017 06:09 Peeano wrote:Would it be an idea to add a spoiler-free Home link among these?
Not totally sure what you're suggesting?
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Netherlands4641 Posts
On January 12 2017 09:51 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 06:09 Peeano wrote:Would it be an idea to add a spoiler-free Home link among these? Not totally sure what you're suggesting?
Maybe it's a bit far fetched, but I'm suggesting putting http://www.teamliquid.net/nospoiler as hotlink on there amongst the others.
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This has been working out great for me. I wasn't expecting the "current players" changes to broadcasts, but it makes a lot of sense.
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Why do I no longer default to TL as home page ?
Because of these massive spoilers.
Spoilers all the time, spoiling my experience of the site.
So I start with some spoiler free site (eg. sc2links) make sure I'm relatively up to date on vod, then visit TL if I get the time (or not, more often) .
Result is I'm missing out on live content coz I don't have the live streams that TL offers on the right, I miss out on the rest of TL site, basically I'm scared of visiting TL.
Some time ago, we had thread titles like this one :"GSL group A recap and group B preview"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/449119-gsl-gt-ro8-group-b-preview-group-a-recap
That was awesome, it poses no problem for anybody, you want the result ? click the post.
You don't ? well at least you know there's some VOD to watch.
Now for some reason, every post about a competition starts like "Dark beats Dear 4-2 in SSL"
I do have the "no spoiler" checkbox marked, but it only lasts a ridiculously short time (24h ? How often are we supposed to visit here ?).
So, a simple solution is simply to avoid spoiling in the post title !
Cite the players, the competition, and let the results be in the BODY of the post, not the title.
Thank you.
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If you aren't able to see the games live it's in your responsibility to avoid spoilers.
TL is already doing you a huge favor with this 24 hour rule.
I don't know where those complaints are coming from, in other sports it's normal that results get published without spoiler-options and people aren't complaining either.
The argument was that because of the different time zone we aren't able to watch korean leagues live but with the 24 hour rule everyone should be able to watch the games within time if they are interested. And when not it's on you to keep yourself from getting spoilered and not on TL.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36900 Posts
On September 06 2017 18:23 Yo_Man wrote:Why do I no longer default to TL as home page ? Because of these massive spoilers. Spoilers all the time, spoiling my experience of the site. So I start with some spoiler free site (eg. sc2links) make sure I'm relatively up to date on vod, then visit TL if I get the time (or not, more often) . Result is I'm missing out on live content coz I don't have the live streams that TL offers on the right, I miss out on the rest of TL site, basically I'm scared of visiting TL. Some time ago, we had thread titles like this one :"GSL group A recap and group B preview" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/449119-gsl-gt-ro8-group-b-preview-group-a-recapThat was awesome, it poses no problem for anybody, you want the result ? click the post. You don't ? well at least you know there's some VOD to watch. Now for some reason, every post about a competition starts like "Dark beats Dear 4-2 in SSL" I do have the "no spoiler" checkbox marked, but it only lasts a ridiculously short time (24h ? How often are we supposed to visit here ?). So, a simple solution is simply to avoid spoiling in the post title ! Cite the players, the competition, and let the results be in the BODY of the post, not the title. Thank you.
I'm sorry that your experience on this site has been ruined but we cannot please everyone. We have already re-implemented our no spoiler option and we do our best to make sure all our results threads have the spoiler option check marked. There's really not much else we can do.
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thanks for the response seeker, I do understand it's hard to please all users
I'm just sayimg I've been using TL for years and this type of trend in post titles is kind of recent (maybe a couple of years ?)
For charoisaur, you have to admit that while esport is similar to sport like football, there are also differences, e.g who watches replays vod of football matches ?
If you've seen the match you click the post to read the recap and the story, which is why you go to TL and not just watch the vod, you don't care to have the result not displaye on the front page. If you haven't seen it... well, watching matches when you know the end score is less enjoyable. There's enough content in vod to fill the time I have for sc2 in a week, but not if some of it is "spoiled", especially in the KOR scene
anyway thanks for TL I still do enjoy browsing here, I'm just very careful about visiting TL, hence it's not my home page anymore.
Kind of a shame in a way.
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United States1757 Posts
On September 07 2017 02:16 Yo_Man wrote:
thanks for the response seeker, I do understand it's hard to please all users
I'm just sayimg I've been using TL for years and this type of trend in post titles is kind of recent (maybe a couple of years ?)
For charoisaur, you have to admit that while esport is similar to sport like football, there are also differences, e.g who watches replays vod of football matches ?
If you've seen the match you click the post to read the recap and the story, which is why you go to TL and not just watch the vod, you don't care to have the result not displaye on the front page. If you haven't seen it... well, watching matches when you know the end score is less enjoyable. There's enough content in vod to fill the time I have for sc2 in a week, but not if some of it is "spoiled", especially in the KOR scene
anyway thanks for TL I still do enjoy browsing here, I'm just very careful about visiting TL, hence it's not my home page anymore.
Kind of a shame in a way.
As the person who writes the recaps, I think I have a unique perspective on this that will maybe help you understand why things the way they are. I wake up at 4:30-5 am as many as five times a week so I can watch and recap every GSL/SSL/VSL game as well as spending entire weekends watching IEM/WCS. If I don't like the matches, I watch. I don't care about the players, I watch. I do this because there are some people who really do appreciate the recaps.
The reason the recaps are titled the way they are is because they are more visible when titled as such. More people read them. More people watch the clips. More people reply to the post. It's a forum. More discussion is a good. If I were only to look at this on a personal level, the changes you're suggesting would devalue the work I do by making the recaps less visible. You are part of a vocal minority that complains about the way the recaps are titled, but we can't please everyone. Charoisaur is completely correct. If you don't want to be spoiled you are in complete control of that. I understand these are your concerns and I'm not trying to say they're irrelevant, but the spoiler function is working exactly as intended. Should that not be enough for you, I'm sorry.
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On September 07 2017 02:30 mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 02:16 Yo_Man wrote:
thanks for the response seeker, I do understand it's hard to please all users
I'm just sayimg I've been using TL for years and this type of trend in post titles is kind of recent (maybe a couple of years ?)
For charoisaur, you have to admit that while esport is similar to sport like football, there are also differences, e.g who watches replays vod of football matches ?
If you've seen the match you click the post to read the recap and the story, which is why you go to TL and not just watch the vod, you don't care to have the result not displaye on the front page. If you haven't seen it... well, watching matches when you know the end score is less enjoyable. There's enough content in vod to fill the time I have for sc2 in a week, but not if some of it is "spoiled", especially in the KOR scene
anyway thanks for TL I still do enjoy browsing here, I'm just very careful about visiting TL, hence it's not my home page anymore.
Kind of a shame in a way. As the person who writes the recaps, I think I have a unique perspective on this that will maybe help you understand why things the way they are. I wake up at 4:30-5 am as many as five times a week so I can watch and recap every GSL/SSL/VSL game as well as spending entire weekends watching IEM/WCS. If I don't like the matches, I watch. I don't care about the players, I watch. I do this because there are some people who really do appreciate the recaps. The reason the recaps are titled the way they are is because they are more visible when titled as such. More people read them. More people watch the clips. More people reply to the post. It's a forum. More discussion is a good. If I were only to look at this on a personal level, the changes you're suggesting would devalue the work I do by making the recaps less visible. You are part of a vocal minority that complains about the way the recaps are titled, but we can't please everyone. Charoisaur is completely correct. If you don't want to be spoiled you are in complete control of that. I understand these are your concerns and I'm not trying to say they're irrelevant, but the spoiler function is working exactly as intended. Should that not be enough for you, I'm sorry.
I'm in the exact same boat, btw. Was fine in the past. But now that I have less free time, 24 hours is not enough for me to catch up on everything, so I visit TL way less often than before. Like, once a week or so instead of everyday. And I stopped reading any article now that I think about it while I was reading absolutly everything when I was less scared of spoilers.
Then again, maybe we are a small minority and maybe you guys actually gain more traffic with spoilers everywhere than if you avoid it at all cost/if the spoiler option lasted longer and hid the right side bar players name (Upcoming events) too. If that's the case, I understand. Just wanted to inform.
I totally agree that it's my responsability to avoid spoilers. On the other hand, if we actually are a bunch in that boat and are avoiding TL, not that great for the website.
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Personally i watch gsl with delay with Ogaming TV and it's really annoying to have spoiler IN TITLE when i come here, is it that hard to just show the results in the topic ? I dont want to avoid this website.
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On September 07 2017 02:30 mizenhauer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2017 02:16 Yo_Man wrote:
thanks for the response seeker, I do understand it's hard to please all users
I'm just sayimg I've been using TL for years and this type of trend in post titles is kind of recent (maybe a couple of years ?)
For charoisaur, you have to admit that while esport is similar to sport like football, there are also differences, e.g who watches replays vod of football matches ?
If you've seen the match you click the post to read the recap and the story, which is why you go to TL and not just watch the vod, you don't care to have the result not displaye on the front page. If you haven't seen it... well, watching matches when you know the end score is less enjoyable. There's enough content in vod to fill the time I have for sc2 in a week, but not if some of it is "spoiled", especially in the KOR scene
anyway thanks for TL I still do enjoy browsing here, I'm just very careful about visiting TL, hence it's not my home page anymore.
Kind of a shame in a way. As the person who writes the recaps, I think I have a unique perspective on this that will maybe help you understand why things the way they are. I wake up at 4:30-5 am as many as five times a week so I can watch and recap every GSL/SSL/VSL game as well as spending entire weekends watching IEM/WCS. If I don't like the matches, I watch. I don't care about the players, I watch. I do this because there are some people who really do appreciate the recaps. The reason the recaps are titled the way they are is because they are more visible when titled as such. More people read them. More people watch the clips. More people reply to the post. It's a forum. More discussion is a good. If I were only to look at this on a personal level, the changes you're suggesting would devalue the work I do by making the recaps less visible. You are part of a vocal minority that complains about the way the recaps are titled, but we can't please everyone. Charoisaur is completely correct. If you don't want to be spoiled you are in complete control of that. I understand these are your concerns and I'm not trying to say they're irrelevant, but the spoiler function is working exactly as intended. Should that not be enough for you, I'm sorry.
This is interesting. When I see "Dark beats Dear 4-2 to advance to the semi finals of SSL" I am less likely to click on the news and read the recap than if it was titled "Recap of the SSL quarter final between Dear and Dark".
With the first title I get all the information I need already, no need to click on it unless I really want to know what exactly happened in the games.
The second title would get me to click on it to see the result, since it's easier than going to LP or the LR thread. Once I clicked on it I might just read the whole thing  .
Seeing you say that it works the other way around just struck me as interesting.
I don't mind the spoiler situation, I usually check in within 24 hours of a tournament and /nospoilers works great for me.
If the no spoiler option wasn't a thing the titles should have no spoilers, but since we have the option, its fine imo.
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I still don't understand why would it hurt TL so much to make the spoiler-free period longer. I understand that making it customizable would be work, but simply making it something generous, like a week, wouldn't hurt anyone but the pride of the staff in admitting that they were wrong.
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On September 07 2017 06:01 opisska wrote:
I still don't understand why would it hurt TL so much to make the spoiler-free period longer. I understand that making it customizable would be work, but simply making it something generous, like a week, wouldn't hurt anyone but the pride of the staff in admitting that they were wrong.
I don't know if it would take work since the feature EXISTED. But hey. I understand it's a news site. That's why i don't come to TL often.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 07 2017 06:01 opisska wrote:
I still don't understand why would it hurt TL so much to make the spoiler-free period longer. I understand that making it customizable would be work, but simply making it something generous, like a week, wouldn't hurt anyone but the pride of the staff in admitting that they were wrong.
This was planned, it just fell off my radar. Whoops.
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