EPTSC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband - Pag…
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Regardless of the situation, we will still action upon "dead game" comments. As this is a sensitive issue for SC2 fans, please do not come into this thread and talk about SC2 players switching over to BW. This thread is also not about bashing Blizzard, David Kim, or the WCS system. | ||
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poboxy
Canada48 Posts
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TT1
Canada10062 Posts
On October 19 2016 16:59 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: not sure where the viewers will come from if there is no public events for the audience. dunno they might form proteams with mid-tier/lower end high tier pros (i doubt it tho). they'll probably just run a lot of individual leagues/tournaments. | ||
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Hotshot
Canada184 Posts
On October 19 2016 09:01 FLuE wrote: And as a side note, Blizzard massively underestimated the important of social interaction in both SC2 and D3. Both games launched lacking various social features. I feel like if they just went back to the old BNet design that alone would pull people back. It's sad that the old war3 has so many feature that are better than sc2 bnet...I think even to this day blizzard highly underestimates how much short and long term damage that did to their game. | ||
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
On October 19 2016 17:24 Hotshot wrote: It's sad that the old war3 has so many feature that are better than sc2 bnet...I think even to this day blizzard highly underestimates how much short and long term damage that did to their game. Especially in a game like SC2 that's so harsh and unforgiving in the first place, you need the social interaction to ease the gloomy and stressful ladder experience. I'm fine with limited interaction in Hearthstone for example, because it's so lighthearted and can be played in windowed mode while doing tons of other things on the side. But that doesn't work for a stressful RTS in fullscreen. | ||
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
The difficulties Blizzard have had making interesting ground units that aren't crazily imbalanced - pathfinding. Perfect pathfinding meant that army power scaled almost perfectly with numbers. Blizzard ALWAYS had to balance around 30 of whatever it was turning up at a given point on the map near-simultaneously. The samey-ness of games, the lack of strategic variety - again, pathfinding. Perfect pathfinding normalises engagements, reducing the variety of ways two given armies can interact. The tendency for many matchups to devolve into the dull massing of a deathball followed by an engagement lasting just a few seconds, which in turn led to the increasing emphasis on worker-slaughter to provide some kind of action and entertainment - pathfinding. Perfect pathfinding all but eliminated the inherent advantage of a pre-positioned, entrenched small force, making the deathball the de facto dominant strategy. In short, SC2 pathfinding significantly diminished the richness, variety, potential and ultimately entertainment value of the game. In my opinion  | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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junkdrop
26 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Khai
Australia553 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
Yeah, they won in 2016, but SKT went to complete shit (despite having all the success in individuals) and KT decided that they just can't win against JA, so it really wasn't the same anymore ... | ||
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Side1
Chile15 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On October 18 2016 11:48 BretZ wrote: damn dude this game deserved so much better for everyone involved You mean everyone involved deserved a much better game? Honestly i am surprised this game survived this long. Not trying to troll or anything, just genuinly surprised. | ||
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
I don't. I'm actually happy this happened. | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
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Wrath
3175 Posts
Same. On October 19 2016 18:51 aQuaSC wrote: What makes you so happy about it? Feeling like feeding a troll, but let's try As for me, it is kinda making everyone equal. Hopefully both can understand each other pain and stop trolling / fighting each other now that we know the pain of each other. Lets try to look at the future of StarCraft II as a Global game not a Korean thing. It was kinda annoying how artificial it was and pushing it on everyone's throat. Hopefully, we all can live in peace. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 19 2016 18:51 Wrath wrote: Same. As for me, it is kinda making everyone equal. Hopefully both can understand each other pain and stop trolling / fighting each other now that we know the pain of each other. Lets try to look at the future of StarCraft II as a Global game not a Korean thing. It was kinda annoying how artificial it was and pushing it on everyone's throat. Hopefully, we all can live in peace. The passive-aggressiveness in this post is real. The problem was not SC2 being pushed onto Koreans. Thankfully Koreans can defend themselves just fine from the evil SC2 minions! The problem is people trying to make SC2 vs BW a thing. We need BW vs SC2 Mega thread! What a surprise. BW and SC2 are intertwined heavily, for multiple reasons. Let's not act as if this wasn't the case. Let's not forget a lot of SC2 players actually started watching and supporting BW (again) when this happened with BW. Let's also not forget that people are cheering for players in both games. So whatever your point of view towards SC2 or BW is, the whole situation just sucks. Saying this is a good thing is just as disrespectful as the people saying this back when it happened to BW. | ||
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YuiHirasawa
Japan220 Posts
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On October 19 2016 19:15 YuiHirasawa wrote: I am so glad I stopped playing or caring about this games 2 or 3 years ago And yet you post here, your dedication is amazing | ||
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Corak
Germany188 Posts
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
On October 19 2016 18:19 HornyHerring wrote: Meh, proleague format was always boring anyway both in BW and SC2, solo competition is better. Opinions. | ||
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