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SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband - Pag…

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Regardless of the situation, we will still action upon "dead game" comments. As this is a sensitive issue for SC2 fans, please do not come into this thread and talk about SC2 players switching over to BW. This thread is also not about bashing Blizzard, David Kim, or the WCS system.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
October 18 2016 05:54 GMT
#301
On October 18 2016 14:30 sc2chronic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 14:27 Grettin wrote:
On October 18 2016 11:21 BisuDagger wrote:
SC1 lost proleague and is more exciting then ever. It's up to the dedicated SC2 fans to keep it going.


Exactly this.

While this is sad news, look forward to the future!


yea totally cant wait for third party vendor sponsorships and fan made content

*mom makes you the sandwhich bread hot dog*
"see? it aint so bad! just like a real hot dog!"
You take that back, bread hot dogs are great.

What's not great is how people are all saying "well, SC2 was never popular in Korea, this was inevitable" without realizing how that happened in the first place. SC2 was the sequel to Korea's most popular game ever, there was no good reason it shouldn't have been popular. The blame should fall firmly on Blizzard and KeSPA. This shouldn't have happened.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
October 18 2016 05:57 GMT
#302
Rof16 and on of GSL usually had the "better" games, but I really liked the unpredictability of the proleague matches
Teaching Chess to a Starcraft 2 Grandmaster: http://revtiberius.blogspot.ca
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 18 2016 05:58 GMT
#303
I never thought teams like SKT and KT would disband. Incredible.

Whatever goes on at Blizzard headquarters, without blaming anyone or anything, as the creator and owner of Starcraft franchise I can't believe how Blizzard could let it come to this point.

I'm speechless.
corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
October 18 2016 06:00 GMT
#304
On October 18 2016 14:31 SpunXtain20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 14:26 corydoras wrote:
One more thing is demographics. Teenagers don't play Starcraft as much as they play team games like OW/LoL/CS:GO (the latter outside Korea). And 'old people' in late 20s and early 30s who spent their high school and uni lives playing BW and/or SC2 will not be a playerbase big enough to generate sufficient viewership to justify sponsorong SPL for SC2.


Its an interesting point but i think youre right that the general skill level of kids these days is quite low. Its the reason LoL and Minecraft had such big viewerships, because the talent pool has nose dived in no small part thanks to "video playthroughs" and trolling behaviours which can demotivate.

Youd be hard pressed to find many children whose APM is above 400 these days (except like Dotaesque games where they just spam click rather than precision click) and that can often preclude them from games like SC2.


Well, I never made a point about skill. If TaeJa casually went top500 on Overwatch which is definitely not as mechanics-based as BW/SC2, then I'd say it works the other way around.

There are no next Marus or TaeJas because younger players simply aren't playing SC. And they aren't because they prefer getting perfect shots with Widowmaker or improving their flanking skills with Genji. And hanging out with friends in the process.

I can understand that. 1v1 BW/SC2 is stressful as f..., so is sucking and losing in OW or Heroes when you play solo. But just from my experience: last week I spend a couple of hours playing Hereos like a true bronze league hero after a yearlong pause and I had tremendous fun getting rekt just because I was playing with friends with an open voice channel.

People don't even want to play SC2 with me because they can't invest time to practice mechanics. I get why this results in few new viewers and decreasing playerbase.

It's not a drawback, it's a feature. That's why we love RTS and also why 1v1 RTS are for few masochists who want to play this way. Most people don't.
Adun toridas!
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
October 18 2016 06:00 GMT
#305
There goes my interest in SC2 with it.

We knew this was coming but its still a shock
spown
Profile Joined October 2015
38 Posts
October 18 2016 06:02 GMT
#306
so sad

but i laughed so hard
Slayers_MMA is my hero
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 18 2016 06:03 GMT
#307
Sad news, but the SPL part is not surprising. It really sucks that 5 teams completely disbanded their sc2 rosters though, didn't think that would happen.

Well now sc2 in Korea will look more like outside of Korea. At least they announced more KeSPA Cups for StarCraft and GSL is confirmed too. With WCS there will still be a lot to play in for Korean players, now I really can't wait for Blizzard's plans. It will be interesting to see how many players will retire and how many get new sponsors or teams.

This is the end of an era with proleague ending and those 5 teams leaving sc2, but it's not the end of sc2 at all.

JAGW is epic btw, I hope they grab a player or two.

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
October 18 2016 06:03 GMT
#308
Hopefully blizzard opens the region lock or i really fear for SC2 in Korea...
YamiRi
Profile Joined September 2015
152 Posts
October 18 2016 06:05 GMT
#309
I really hope GSL and SSL would still survive
if proleague is gone, there is no way they can't keep GSL and SSL
MattLance
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany11 Posts
October 18 2016 06:05 GMT
#310
I am really really sad about this. StarCraft 2 is my true love in competitive gaming. I hope Blizz is going to do anything about this, otherwise the Pro- / eSports-Scene as we know it will die soon. (A big part of it already died)
Daylight's burnin'!
HzVee
Profile Joined August 2015
43 Posts
October 18 2016 06:07 GMT
#311
Only followed sc2 scene since early 2015 and this happened already.
180DegreeTurnaroundS
Profile Joined February 2016
4 Posts
October 18 2016 06:13 GMT
#312
That is why I named myself 180DegreeTurnaroundS
corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
October 18 2016 06:15 GMT
#313
On October 18 2016 15:03 Musicus wrote:
With WCS there will still be a lot to play in for Korean players, now I really can't wait for Blizzard's plans. It will be interesting to see how many players will retire and how many get new sponsors or teams.

This is the end of an era with proleague ending and those 5 teams leaving sc2, but it's not the end of sc2 at all.



In Mike Morhaime's passion for the Starcraft brand (and his huge middle finger towards accountants and shareholders who will tell him there is no business case for WCS) we trust.
Adun toridas!
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 06:17:21
October 18 2016 06:16 GMT
#314
Today is a sad day indeed.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
ANGELIAS1234
Profile Joined September 2011
United States46 Posts
October 18 2016 06:27 GMT
#315
StarCraft 2 is dying =( and it saddens me so much
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
October 18 2016 06:28 GMT
#316
I wonder if this explains the slumps of a lot of players recently.
warlocke
Profile Joined September 2015
97 Posts
October 18 2016 06:28 GMT
#317
ah this is so sad, hopefully there are enough tournaments to feature the korean players next year and beyond
an average player whom can only F2 + a-move
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
October 18 2016 06:30 GMT
#318
Not surprised. Rumors were KT was going to disband...people called that hearsay...turns out it was a lot worse whoops.
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1144 Posts
October 18 2016 06:31 GMT
#319
RIP SC2
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1648 Posts
October 18 2016 06:32 GMT
#320
Afreeca time!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
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