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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
February 17 2020 21:14 GMT
#21
A first person Starcraft game would be neat. There are tons of possibilities, sadly none will ever happen.

Like.
- StarCraft Spacemarine - You move up the ranks in single player while doing all the awesome stuff like holding / raiding bases, rescuing civilians, going on covert missions etc. In multi player you could easily implement all the standard modes
- StarCraft Kerrigan - Relive Sarah's epic story in a first person RPG. (I would kill for this game.)
- StarCraft Zealot - First person action game. When you die, you are reborn as a dragoon and are only allowed to control your character with a steering wheel.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 17 2020 21:45 GMT
#22
On February 18 2020 01:26 argonautdice wrote:
I feel like Starcraft Ghost as it looked leaked would've been boring. It'd be more awesome if you can play as all the different units: a hydralisk, a zealot, a mutalisk, a carrier, etc., with different combat systems and scales of battle.

They were working towards something like that with the multiplayer, which had a mode featuring a TvZ conflict where the classes were represented by different units. There was also a TvT mode that featured ground and air vehicles.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28706 Posts
February 17 2020 21:54 GMT
#23
On February 18 2020 01:26 argonautdice wrote:
I feel like Starcraft Ghost as it looked leaked would've been boring. It'd be more awesome if you can play as all the different units: a hydralisk, a zealot, a mutalisk, a carrier, etc., with different combat systems and scales of battle.


I played starcraft ghost multiplayer for like 30 minutes or so during the world wide invitational in 2006. And it basically was that - a capture the flag mode team play fps where you controlled different starcraft units. I'm pretty certain marine hydra vulture mutalisk were all playable at that point.

And I thought it was fun, although not even close to being done, and not even close to balanced.
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
February 17 2020 22:25 GMT
#24
I'd love to see a Starcraft game of a different genre. But it would be a waste of time if it was anything like that leaked demo. I hope Blizzard gets back to focusing on quality games.
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
February 17 2020 22:35 GMT
#25
On February 17 2020 08:22 NoobSkills wrote:
Don't really think Blizzard at that time had to worry about image. They had what?, 4 of the top games in the world? I'm not sure about what happened or what ghost would have been, but even if it was a flop blizzard still would have been top dog. To me it looks like a mass effect with a blizzard storyline. Which could have been cool. As far as a multiplayer portion of it i have no idea.

The reason blizzard back then had only top of the genre titles is exactly because they would not release a game if it didnt feel top quality. Starcraft ghost was just MEH, and was no where near as good as games such as halo or splinter cell, so they did not release, as it was not *Blizzard quality*.

Thats when blizzard was still the top dogs. Original WoW in 2004-2008 was probably Blizzards pinnacle. They had too much success that the big dogs baught them and then it became all about money over quality.

BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-18 00:38:38
February 18 2020 00:37 GMT
#26
On February 18 2020 07:25 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I'd love to see a Starcraft game of a different genre. But it would be a waste of time if it was anything like that leaked demo. I hope Blizzard gets back to focusing on quality games.

I agree. It is great to be able to tank push a MOBA lane in HoTS. I just want more OP units to crush other genres.
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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
February 18 2020 01:05 GMT
#27
The only good thing to come out of Starcraft Ghost was the opening cinematic, which I admit was pretty badass at the time. It's even got a Goliath in it.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
February 18 2020 02:06 GMT
#28
Pre-Activision Blizzard actually cared about quality. Ghost wasn't up to their standards, so they cancelled it even though it was nearly finished. Compare that to now where they release WC3: Reforged in a horribly broken and incomplete state.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26002 Posts
February 18 2020 02:55 GMT
#29
On February 17 2020 14:17 Dillon1 wrote:
I'd play the shite out of it if they made a modern 1st person starcraft game

cmon just picture being a hydralisk.

Or a zealot even.

Mission 1. Guide these probes to a nearby Nexus ..
reward: Improved psiblades , or a charge ability XD

AvP already exists.

Most Starcraft units would be boring as hell to play with in an FPS/third person sense.

They have defined roles and abilities to fit the genre, which works in RTS but not if you were to make them playable in an action game.

Ghosts you could make a good stealth/action game with though, seems the game got caught in development hell though and didn’t push in a particular direction.

In that era a really good stealth game would have probably done really well, even without the Starcraft IP.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Dillon1
Profile Joined April 2015
118 Posts
February 18 2020 05:52 GMT
#30
@Wombat, they could totally just have him peer around a corner with his psi-blades turned off... Wouldn't be that noisy, especially if the zerglings he's about to charge into with his 'squad' were busy eating someone or something...

You underestimate how good this could be...

Ghosts could be good since it'd be a more all-round shootergame, with cloak and emp, hell lots of tools to work with instead of just the RTS kits they get since in a real battlefield a ghost could pick up a marines gauss rifle and hose shite

Sniping - check
Weapons to pick up -check
decide to get into a goliath suit on certain levels to shoot some mutas. - awesome

Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11626 Posts
February 18 2020 10:37 GMT
#31
On February 18 2020 06:45 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2020 01:26 argonautdice wrote:
I feel like Starcraft Ghost as it looked leaked would've been boring. It'd be more awesome if you can play as all the different units: a hydralisk, a zealot, a mutalisk, a carrier, etc., with different combat systems and scales of battle.

They were working towards something like that with the multiplayer, which had a mode featuring a TvZ conflict where the classes were represented by different units. There was also a TvT mode that featured ground and air vehicles.


If you are looking for something like that, Natural Selection 2 is basically exactly that. (The TvZ part)
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 18 2020 15:22 GMT
#32
The player in the video has awful aim. Like it's his first time playing a FPS on a console bad.

Anyways, I wonder if that video is an prototype video or not. As a general concept the game looks interesting, being carried by the universe of starcraft. If it was near completion, that game is awful. It was the era of Halo and Halo 2. Other than the nicely modelled Nova character, graphically it looks terrible and the gameplay unappealing, like spending time searching bodies and the lack of enemies.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 18 2020 19:57 GMT
#33
On February 19 2020 00:22 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
The player in the video has awful aim. Like it's his first time playing a FPS on a console bad.

Anyways, I wonder if that video is an prototype video or not. As a general concept the game looks interesting, being carried by the universe of starcraft. If it was near completion, that game is awful. It was the era of Halo and Halo 2. Other than the nicely modelled Nova character, graphically it looks terrible and the gameplay unappealing, like spending time searching bodies and the lack of enemies.

The game wouldn't hold, it was going against Splinter Cell...
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Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
February 19 2020 21:00 GMT
#34
It doesn't look THAT bad I think when looking at it with mid 2000's goggles, but whatever, games gone.
Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-19 22:27:13
February 19 2020 22:20 GMT
#35
Looking back on that era (PlayStation 2, XBox, GameCube), StarCraft: Ghost would have been the Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus of Blizzard games. If it had decent music, some semblance of a story with some somewhat interesting characters, and cool cutscenes, it might have been decent at best but more likely just laughably awkward.

Some of the really big games of the mid-2000s wouldn't come until a few years after, but by the time Ghost was announced the world had already experienced Metal Gear Solid 3, Halo, Devil May Cry, Ratchet & Clank, Kingdom Hearts, Ghost Recon and Splinter Cell, multiple Resident Evils and Silent Hills, and more and more games each year after that were better and better. In the same year it was announced that Ghost was cancelled (2006), games like Prey, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Kingdom Hearts 2, Twilight Princess, Lost Planet, and Gears of War would launch. The development had been in hell for a while, and it shows in the leaked version. The only game it would have been on the same level with was... Well, actually I don't think it would have even been as good (perhaps "interesting" is a better word) as Dirge of Cerberus.

I'd love to see a new take on a similar concept (not the same since the novelization and Nova Covert Ops exist), either in an isometric game that hybridizes StarCraft 2 and something like Invisible, Inc., or a third-person game ala Metal Gear Solid and Splinter Cell: Conviction. But with the directions the company is taking—and the apparent, final attempt at "closure" in Nova Covert Ops—I don't care to hold my breath for that. Even though there's an absolutely awesome version of this game in my mind, there are many more ideas out there that I'd much rather get excited about.
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