EPTLife arrested on match-fixing charges - Page 14
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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote: Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed. This goes for other players too. -The_Templar | ||
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jeeeKyyy
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neurego7647
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gall.dcinside.com Translation: Life : I am traded to Afreeca from KT. I am grateful to KT office, coaches and other players for taking care of me and I will show good plays in Afreeca Freecs Redbox: Coach Kang: Do a good play ^^ Life:Yep! 27th January KT Coach purely cheered Life on without anger. | ||
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pr1de
38 Posts
To be honest, it doesnt matter how much money Life makes/made. Lately there have been some match-fixing problems even among top 10 tenis players and hell, they make a lot of money. No you cant say that here, its just speculation. Korean sc2 players are holy and they cant do that, cant you understand?? You have to wait until he is in prison, then you can compare it to tennis. /sarcasme 80% of this forum off. User was warned for this post | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:17 WrathSCII wrote: I want to get a life but he is in prison  Guys, be kind to one another....No need for Corporal PUNishment. edit: yuk, even I hate that one..... | ||
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pr1de
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pr1de
38 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:17 WrathSCII wrote: Show nested quote + I want to get a life but he is in prison Guys, be kind to one another....No need for Corporal PUNishment. Again you are really ONtopic You have so many messages and all of them are really great, Bleh | ||
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rednusa
651 Posts
On January 31 2016 21:16 AlgeriaT wrote: Isn't this supposed to have happened during 2015 though? From OP: "Prosecutors did not reveal specific charges beyond the fact that they were related to StarCraft match-fixing in 2015, saying the investigation was still ongoing." ? That's another good point. So this obviously isn't the game(s) in question. Another TLer made a good point: we could go through every game Life has lost recently and a find elements in it that support our bias. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:27 pr1de wrote: Again you are really ONtopic You have so many messages and all of them are really great, Bleh Well, well someone's wearing his cranky pants and here I thought you were leaving ;p | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:00 FireCake wrote: Why does this happen only in Korea ? Are European players better to hide match-fixing or nobody care about illegal bettings in Europe ? Is there similar cases in other esports in Europe ? with the throw and counter throw of foreigncraft betting would be too risky | ||
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MRSA_SC2
Germany19 Posts
Anyway i also think KeSPA is hugely responsible here, because simply applying capital punishment is not enough (regardless of the accused being Life this time). They are responsible of creating a protective environment for the competing players and teams against outsiders. That said one could also recognize how much bizarre the Korean SC2 System as a competitive sport is, with both individual and team leagues, especially Proleague is prone to match-fixing as simply not choosing the right opponent by the coach would do. In Formula one any contact between different team mechanics is a crime, now compare that with Proleague where the players are actually friends. | ||
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:21 jeeeKyyy wrote: To be honest, it doesnt matter how much money Life makes/made. Lately there have been some match-fixing problems even among top 10 tenis players and hell, they make a lot of money. I would love to see a link to something implicating a current top 10 men or women's player. This is completely false information. Way to sensationalize something completely untrue. | ||
Poopi
France12911 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:00 FireCake wrote: Why does this happen only in Korea ? Are European players better to hide match-fixing or nobody care about illegal bettings in Europe ? Is there similar cases in other esports in Europe ? Koreans dominate at the game and at illegal bettings edit: plus if all forms of betting are forbidden the hidden market will be bigger | ||
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heqat
Switzerland96 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:32 MRSA_SC2 wrote: They are responsible of creating a protective environment for the competing players and teams against outsiders. Yes... Especially because the players are really just kids. | ||
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lystier
China877 Posts
Until I met Startale, Bomber, Life...yes, life always finds a way. And there was about a year when I sunk into SC society, I was so fond of professional gaming, dedicated my enthusiasm and time, my love and hope inside it. It actually saved me from a bad relationship, a period that there was no friends, no dates, no good school grades, nothing but those matches. It used to be my love and my life. Then I had my life. My own life that had almost everything I was eager to, everything but Starcraft. I fulfilled my dreams in reality, and forgot those who comforted me in the longest and coldest nights. Now I chilled again in such a dark winter. Maybe - maybe this is the last time I login this account and visit you. I cannot recall names of all of you but I remember Zealously and so...Maybe this is my farewell, my forgotten farewell and a gratitude that SC2 deserved two years ago. My SC2 heart is broken. But I can always close it up somewhere else. Goodbye my friends. Goodbye Life. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:00 FireCake wrote: Why does this happen only in Korea ? Are European players better to hide match-fixing or nobody care about illegal bettings in Europe ? Is there similar cases in other esports in Europe ? Betting is legal in Europe isn't it? Anyway I think it would be surprising if it only ever happened in Korea. | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1976 Posts
On January 31 2016 21:21 Gwavajuice wrote: If Life is found guilty for this I won't jump the hate wagon as everybody is. First I will blame KeSPA, cause really Life is just a kid and he should have been protected from the influence of match fixers. The fact such a star, in one of the biggest team, can fall in that trap just shows how KeSPA is totally unable to fight illegal betting. Savior was kind of a first, so the element of surprise can be taken into account. If after all the warning and rumors KeSPA failed again to protect themself against illegal betting (cause this scandal will severly damage their business) it may just mean they're not able at all to be an esport organization. For KeSPA, this failure would be an humiliation. CEO should resign at the very least. Second, I would blame the Korean system as whole, because if illegal betting is so strong it can humiliate KeSPA this hard, it means legal authorities are just inefficient in preventing it. So peole can accuse Life of killing sc2 korean pro scene all they want, they can insult him all thread long, fact remains that the problem is not about a kid fucking up his career, the problem is about a system that is unable to prevent it. Anyway, I still hope he can be innocented, even if the future look very grim for him. if this was an isolated incident pre-savior scandal, you MIGHT be able to make an argument for him there, but he knew the damage he was doing to the scene, no way he didn't know. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:32 MRSA_SC2 wrote: i think a logical cause of "supposedly" such a misconduct by such a successful young player would be legal Winnings going to a parents-controlled account, whereas illegal money going directly to his pockets. Anyway i also think KeSPA is hugely responsible here, because simply applying capital punishment is not enough (regardless of the accused being Life this time). They are responsible of creating a protective environment for the competing players and teams against outsiders. That said one could also recognize how much bizarre the Korean SC2 System as a competitive sport is, with both individual and team leagues, especially Proleague is prone to match-fixing as simply not choosing the right opponent by the coach would do. In Formula one any contact between different team mechanics is a crime, now compare that with Proleague where the players are actually friends. Drivers are also friends in F1. Webber and Alonso Sutil and Hamilton (till the Shanghai thing happend) and many more. Its even easier to be a friend with a driver from another team then from your own team. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
The worst thing about fixing matches is that it doesn't diminish how talented the player was It just hurts everyone in the scene. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45431 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:38 Grizvok wrote: I would love to see a link to something implicating a current top 10 men or women's player. This is completely false information. Way to sensationalize something completely untrue. He didn't say that the top ten tennis players are fixing matches, but several top players (including Novak) have explicitly stepped forward to say that they have been approached and offered money to throw matches: http://www.si.com/tennis/2016/01/18/novak-djokovic-offered-money-match-fixing That's not the same as actually doing it, and jeeeKyyy didn't say they fixed matches. His point was that athletes can and will be given such offers, regardless of how successful they are. | ||
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