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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.
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On January 30 2016 02:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Oh dear God, this is not good... I sincerely hope it turns out he did nothing wrong. I'm going to leave it at this as well. No need to speculate until more information is gathered.
That's why we're here though :p
Wolf's comment is important though. There have no doubt been other cases of investigation where the players were cleared, but did not become public. This one did, apparently because an explanation was needed for SPL.
But being detained, boy, it does not look good at all. I'm not familiar with Korean low but this usually means there is significant evidence on the table.
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It would be so hilarious if they were questioning him about his match vs Lilbow though.
I am still hopeful. I do not think that Life would throw a match. What match would that have even been, had he done so? It just doesn't add up.
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On January 30 2016 02:27 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:07 ZombieGrub wrote:On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.
I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious. bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says Well what about Olimo? She's deeply invested in the scene and my impression was that she was totally aboard the Rekrul train. She seemed very disappoited that the investigation stopped where it did. And I remember a couple of foreigners saying that when they were in Korea, match fixing was an open secret. Maybe they were just looking for attention. Olimo + Rekrul seems hard to shake. LOL OLIMO First name Olimo, last name Ley. I seriously considered blaming my phone's auto correct, but full disclosure, I mostly know Olimoley through Olimoleague and I just subtracted the League. Sry Olivia. 
No worries! Just poking fun, it doesn't actually offend me.
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On January 30 2016 02:32 Gwavajuice wrote:
Anyone knows how long you can be in custody before having legal charges made public in Korea?
In france it's 24hours in most case, then the prosecutor has to wether free you or lead you to a court that will will decide what happens next for you.
A prosecutor has to get a detention warrant within 48 hours, but after that the police has 10 days and the prosecutor has 10 days (with possible 10 day extension) before having to file an indictment. I am not a lawyer, but that's how I understood it.
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OlimoLey would be a great name for a law firm in a Spanish speaking country though.
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I think its safe to assume many players have been called to the office recently, and obviously not found guilty for now (probably called mostly to help with investigations), its not absurd, if you won a match-fixed match, played in a team that match fixed, was contacted by brokers... you got the idea, many people is involved even if they have their hands clean.
Maybe "some shady guys" called Life and tried to make a deal? Only natural if he is under investigation afterwards, and i would be surprised if he was never contacted to lose a game. Meh... i would never suspect him.
edit: warrant eh? goddamit...
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On January 30 2016 02:34 Incognoto wrote:
It would be so hilarious if they were questioning him about his match vs Lilbow though.
I am still hopeful. I do not think that Life would throw a match. What match would that have even been, had he done so? It just doesn't add up.
it's really weird since he's prolly the most successful sc2 player history so it;s hard to believe (of course it's not yet confirmed)
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Life, Liberty and never ending speedlings!
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On January 30 2016 02:40 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:34 Incognoto wrote:
It would be so hilarious if they were questioning him about his match vs Lilbow though.
I am still hopeful. I do not think that Life would throw a match. What match would that have even been, had he done so? It just doesn't add up. it's really weird since he's prolly the most successful sc2 player history so it;s hard to believe (of course it's not yet confirmed)
The only problem with this logic is that saviOr was in a very similiar position in BW - in his time he was surely the greatest zerg to date. I am only now getting a remote idea how much of a shock that revelation must have been for BW fans back then, because it just does not make sense, for exactly the same reasons why Life matchfixing wouldn't. But I still believe this is just a regular police work randomly blown out of proportions for some procedural reasons.
edit: btw. my wife's reaction to the fixing accusation was golden: "...and Life ever lost something?!"
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On January 30 2016 01:51 Solar424 wrote:
Why does SC2 attract the shadiest people in eSports? Its almost like people looting a dying corpse...
this is nothing next to the betting problems in csgo with the value of the skins and such
this game is the best place for money laundering
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On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.
I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious. bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says
From the stunned disbelief to the Rekrul bashing, this is eerily similar to the original BW thread
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On January 30 2016 02:28 Thouhastmail wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:12 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:59 Thouhastmail wrote:On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.
I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious. bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says Well what about Olimo? She's deeply invested in the scene and my impression was that she was totally aboard the Rekrul train. She seemed very disappoited that the investigation stopped where it did. And I remember a couple of foreigners saying that when they were in Korea, match fixing was an open secret. Maybe they were just looking for attention. Olimo + Rekrul seems hard to shake. Remember that she just threw some random name and trotted excuses out when people demanded proof. Oh, did I say that an innocent streamer was screwed up because of this? Well what proof could she possibly have? I know for a fact that my friend went to play tennis yesterday, but I don't have any proof that would stand up in court. If she has heard a lot of players talk about it in the open I can imagine her frustration finally leading to an "outburst" When the SC2 scandal broke, and then she realizes that what she has probably isn't worth anything and despite the scandal, very little/nothing is going to change. I'm not saying this is the only possible interpretation of events, but it seems very plausible to me. Conclusions/Assertions only work when premises/proofs are sufficient. Plus, the onus of proof is on her, because it was her who claimed the issue. Otherwise, it is nothing but a conspiracy.
Onus of proof? This is neither a court of law nor a thesis, if Olimoley - or anyone - knows about possible wrongdoing I would HOPE that they do whatever they can about it.
Anyway at this point we're talking about the entire scene, not individuals. You can't slander a scene.
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On January 30 2016 02:32 Gwavajuice wrote:
Anyone knows how long you can be in custody before having legal charges made public in Korea?
In france it's 24hours in most case, then the prosecutor has to wether free you or lead you to a court that will will decide what happens next for you.
In general case, prosecutor give suspect a phone call or mail or whatever and says "you are now suspected of certain crime. Come to prosecutors office" This procedure does not need warrant
This is an ordinary situation in investigating serious crimes.
But this case is different. Life is arrested 'by prosecutor' with 'warrant'.
This means prosecutor must have a proof because warrant is not allowed by judge without obvious proof
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Bisutopia19239 Posts
I didn't realize destroying so many people in Starcraft 2 was a crime. The crime lab will have plenty of evidence of this. GG.
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On January 30 2016 02:49 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.
I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious. bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says From the stunned disbelief to the Rekrul bashing, this is eerily similar to the original BW thread
Questioning is bashing ?
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On January 30 2016 02:35 olimoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:27 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 02:07 ZombieGrub wrote:On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.
I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious. bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says Well what about Olimo? She's deeply invested in the scene and my impression was that she was totally aboard the Rekrul train. She seemed very disappoited that the investigation stopped where it did. And I remember a couple of foreigners saying that when they were in Korea, match fixing was an open secret. Maybe they were just looking for attention. Olimo + Rekrul seems hard to shake. LOL OLIMO First name Olimo, last name Ley. I seriously considered blaming my phone's auto correct, but full disclosure, I mostly know Olimoley through Olimoleague and I just subtracted the League. Sry Olivia. No worries! Just poking fun, it doesn't actually offend me.
On a happier note, when are you and CranK getting married?
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On January 30 2016 02:46 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:40 goody153 wrote:On January 30 2016 02:34 Incognoto wrote:
It would be so hilarious if they were questioning him about his match vs Lilbow though.
I am still hopeful. I do not think that Life would throw a match. What match would that have even been, had he done so? It just doesn't add up. it's really weird since he's prolly the most successful sc2 player history so it;s hard to believe (of course it's not yet confirmed) The only problem with this logic is that saviOr was in a very similiar position in BW - in his time he was surely the greatest zerg to date. I am only now getting a remote idea how much of a shock that revelation must have been for BW fans back then, because it just does not make sense, for exactly the same reasons why Life matchfixing wouldn't. But I still believe this is just a regular police work randomly blown out of proportions for some procedural reasons.
Uhm i didn't follow bw that time but i've read from some article here i can't remember which one stating that he was losing his form like before he was caught matchfixing. Like he was not the best anymore, maybe still good but not good enough.
There's also JD in bw too who's probably bigger than him, so yeah it's the same in a sense but a bit different cause life may literally be the best zerg of sc2 ever.
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Life vs Sjow @Dreamhack was one of the biggest upsets i had ever seen in SC2, i really hope its not that thats got him into trouble
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On January 30 2016 02:51 BisuDagger wrote:
I didn't realize destroying so many people in Starcraft 2 was a crime. The crime lab will have plenty of evidence of this. GG.
The judge thinks otherwise i guess.
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I am just hoping for the best. Life would be one of the last people i would accuse of matchfixing, it really doesn´t suit him.
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