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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 29 2016 17:00 GMT
#441
On January 30 2016 01:57 Kaizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:55 The_Templar wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:50 Harem wrote:
At least we can all take solace in the fact that Roro has always been innocent and never did anything wrong.

Don't forget Sniper.



He is guilty of creating the worst GSL finals ever. IMO of course.

lol both RorO vs Symbol and Sniper vs HyuN were ironically enough some of the best GSL finals in WoL
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WaterTower
Profile Joined May 2011
France138 Posts
January 29 2016 17:01 GMT
#442
Wow, I can't believe it. Going to prison and having a criminal record likely all for a few thousand bucks. What is wrong with people these days?

User was temp banned for this post.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
January 29 2016 17:01 GMT
#443
On January 30 2016 02:00 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:57 Kaizor wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:55 The_Templar wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:50 Harem wrote:
At least we can all take solace in the fact that Roro has always been innocent and never did anything wrong.

Don't forget Sniper.



He is guilty of creating the worst GSL finals ever. IMO of course.

lol both RorO vs Symbol and Sniper vs HyuN were ironically enough some of the best GSL finals in WoL


Meh... Bly could've beaten them all
gg no re thx
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16833 Posts
January 29 2016 17:01 GMT
#444
On January 30 2016 01:48 cheekymonkey wrote:
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On January 30 2016 01:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:25 cheekymonkey wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:23 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:11 207aicila wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:10 brickrd wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

bye


Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago.

I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it.

Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"?

:-S

how not? if that's his genuine opinion, can't he post it? he may have stated it a bit crudely, but there is reason for fans to worry. he didn't accuse anyone, he said "probably "


A modicum of respect is usually expected.

Calling the entire Korean scene fuckers and implying rampant matchfixing ("probably" or not doesn't change much at this point) is not that...


the reason i could never call a proven Sc2 matchfixer a negative label is how little money they make.

i can't blame some of these guys for looking for a big payoff because even if they're between the 20th and 100th best player on the planet they are not getting paid much.


What are you talking about? Matchfixing is destroying the scene for everyone. It's the worst thing you can do as a pro player.


"pro" ? lol. the label "pro" has some connotation about being very well paid. and that just ain't true.

if 'the scene' were making these guys well paid for making the top 100 i'd have some anger for their match-fixing ways. 'the scene' pays them very little. and then 'the scene' trashes them.

remember Tasteless earning his nickname with the joke about homeless people wandering into the studio to get the free pizza?

if people paid $600/ticket per GSL night of competition then i'd have some anger for this. likewise If I had to pay UFC style pay-per-view money each month to see the best players do their thing.. again i'd have some anger for this. As it is.. .everyone is spending no money; surprise surprise when some of these guys look for a payday.


Nice attitude. So basically, if your chosen profession is not very profitable it's okay to take criminal advantage of your position? You don't even see how this affects other players and teams, especially their sponsor based funding. Its such a self-contradictory position you present.


how much of this funding actually ends up being paid to the player? what do you think is the median net worth of the players ranked 90th to 110th? it looks to me like its "not much".

there is no contradiction. its naked greed. and it happens in competitive sports that pay far more than SC2. However, the lack of cash paid to SC2 players makes them even more vulnerable.

if my prime earning years were as few in # as theirs and i were getting paid what they were getting paid i'd be tempted to matchfix... and 95% of the people who claim they would not be tempted is just lying to themselves.
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NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
January 29 2016 17:02 GMT
#445
On January 30 2016 02:00 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:57 Kaizor wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:55 The_Templar wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:50 Harem wrote:
At least we can all take solace in the fact that Roro has always been innocent and never did anything wrong.

Don't forget Sniper.



He is guilty of creating the worst GSL finals ever. IMO of course.

lol both RorO vs Symbol and Sniper vs HyuN were ironically enough some of the best GSL finals in WoL


Oh is it opposite day already? Cool
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
January 29 2016 17:02 GMT
#446
On January 30 2016 02:00 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:57 Kaizor wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:55 The_Templar wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:50 Harem wrote:
At least we can all take solace in the fact that Roro has always been innocent and never did anything wrong.

Don't forget Sniper.



He is guilty of creating the worst GSL finals ever. IMO of course.

lol both RorO vs Symbol and Sniper vs HyuN were ironically enough some of the best GSL finals in WoL


Thats why i stated in my opinion.


Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
January 29 2016 17:04 GMT
#447
On January 30 2016 01:57 neurego7647 wrote:
As korean I will tell about interesting information about this incident(forgive my awkward english sentences)

The point is the location of prosecutor's office: Changwon office

All korean e-sports matches are played in Seoul because influence of Seoul as capital is absolute like Paris.
But Life is interrogated in Changwon, not Seoul.

Changwon is quite far from Seoul. It is far more than 400km(=250 miles), But Changwon is quitecclose from Life's hometown.

But most interesting thing is Changwon prosecutor's office is specialized in investigating Match Fixing.
Most Sports(soccer,baseball,basketball,volleyball,starcraft...... )Match-fixing investigation have done in Changwon

That's why korean fans are suspecting Life's Match-fixing

Thanks a lot for this information, very interesting to know! =) Lets hope its wrong though
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 17:07:35
January 29 2016 17:06 GMT
#448
On January 30 2016 01:57 neurego7647 wrote:
As korean I will tell about interesting information about this incident(forgive my awkward english sentences)

The point is the location of prosecutor's office: Changwon office

All korean e-sports matches are played in Seoul because influence of Seoul as capital is absolute like Paris.
But Life is interrogated in Changwon, not Seoul.

Changwon is quite far from Seoul. It is far more than 400km(=250 miles), But Changwon is quitecclose from Life's hometown.

But most interesting thing is Changwon prosecutor's office is specialized in investigating Match Fixing.
Most Sports(soccer,baseball,basketball,volleyball,starcraft...... )Match-fixing investigation have done in Changwon

That's why korean fans are suspecting Life's Match-fixing


Thank you!

e: your English is very good btw
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44202 Posts
January 29 2016 17:07 GMT
#449
On January 30 2016 01:57 neurego7647 wrote:
As korean I will tell about interesting information about this incident(forgive my awkward english sentences)

The point is the location of prosecutor's office: Changwon office

All korean e-sports matches are played in Seoul because influence of Seoul as capital is absolute like Paris.
But Life is interrogated in Changwon, not Seoul.

Changwon is quite far from Seoul. It is far more than 400km(=250 miles), But Changwon is quitecclose from Life's hometown.

But most interesting thing is Changwon prosecutor's office is specialized in investigating Match Fixing.
Most Sports(soccer,baseball,basketball,volleyball,starcraft...... )Match-fixing investigation have done in Changwon

That's why korean fans are suspecting Life's Match-fixing


interesting
this is a quote
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States709 Posts
January 29 2016 17:07 GMT
#450
On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

bye


Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago.

I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it.

Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"?

:-S


It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant.

I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh...

Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow.


I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says


Well what about Olimo? She's deeply invested in the scene and my impression was that she was totally aboard the Rekrul train. She seemed very disappoited that the investigation stopped where it did. And I remember a couple of foreigners saying that when they were in Korea, match fixing was an open secret. Maybe they were just looking for attention. Olimo + Rekrul seems hard to shake.


LOL OLIMO

First name Olimo, last name Ley.

On January 30 2016 01:59 Thouhastmail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

bye


Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago.

I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it.

Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"?

:-S


It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant.

I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh...

Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow.


I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says


Well what about Olimo? She's deeply invested in the scene and my impression was that she was totally aboard the Rekrul train. She seemed very disappoited that the investigation stopped where it did. And I remember a couple of foreigners saying that when they were in Korea, match fixing was an open secret. Maybe they were just looking for attention. Olimo + Rekrul seems hard to shake.


Remember that she just threw some random name and trotted excuses out when people demanded proof.

Oh, did I say that an innocent streamer was screwed up because of this?



....are you talking about Apoc?
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ndesktop
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Romania109 Posts
January 29 2016 17:07 GMT
#451
Does anyone knows for sure exactly what happens and why Life is being detained?
Mine more minerals.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
January 29 2016 17:07 GMT
#452
On January 30 2016 01:50 Harem wrote:
At least we can all take solace in the fact that Roro has always been innocent and never did anything wrong.

He was one of the greats. At least he's with the swarmhosts now.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24221 Posts
January 29 2016 17:08 GMT
#453
Oh dear God, this is not good... I sincerely hope it turns out he did nothing wrong.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28487 Posts
January 29 2016 17:09 GMT
#454
On January 30 2016 02:07 ndesktop wrote:
Does anyone knows for sure exactly what happens and why Life is being detained?

Nope
I Protoss winner, could it be?
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 17:11:40
January 29 2016 17:10 GMT
#455
Is there no update on this? Like is he currently in a cell or what? It's 2AM in Korea... Was he allowed to leave the police station after interrogations?

On January 30 2016 01:51 Solar424 wrote:
Why does SC2 attract the shadiest people in eSports? Its almost like people looting a dying corpse...


322? Shady ppl exist everywhere.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 29 2016 17:10 GMT
#456
On January 30 2016 02:07 ndesktop wrote:
Does anyone knows for sure exactly what happens and why Life is being detained?

No
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 17:11:25
January 29 2016 17:11 GMT
#457
doublepost
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 29 2016 17:12 GMT
#458
On January 30 2016 01:59 Thouhastmail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

bye


Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago.

I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it.

Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"?

:-S


It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant.

I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh...

Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow.


I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says


Well what about Olimo? She's deeply invested in the scene and my impression was that she was totally aboard the Rekrul train. She seemed very disappoited that the investigation stopped where it did. And I remember a couple of foreigners saying that when they were in Korea, match fixing was an open secret. Maybe they were just looking for attention. Olimo + Rekrul seems hard to shake.


Remember that she just threw some random name and trotted excuses out when people demanded proof.

Oh, did I say that an innocent streamer was screwed up because of this?


Well what proof could she possibly have? I know for a fact that my friend went to play tennis yesterday, but I don't have any proof that would stand up in court. If she has heard a lot of players talk about it in the open I can imagine her frustration finally leading to an "outburst" When the SC2 scandal broke, and then she realizes that what she has probably isn't worth anything and despite the scandal, very little/nothing is going to change. I'm not saying this is the only possible interpretation of events, but it seems very plausible to me.
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BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
January 29 2016 17:16 GMT
#459
On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

bye


Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago.

I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it.

Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"?

:-S


It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant.

I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh...

Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow.


I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says


Olimo?

:^ )
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 29 2016 17:17 GMT
#460
On January 30 2016 02:07 ZombieGrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.

I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious.

bye


Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago.

I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it.

Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"?

:-S


It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant.

I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh...

Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow.


I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says


Well what about Olimo? She's deeply invested in the scene and my impression was that she was totally aboard the Rekrul train. She seemed very disappoited that the investigation stopped where it did. And I remember a couple of foreigners saying that when they were in Korea, match fixing was an open secret. Maybe they were just looking for attention. Olimo + Rekrul seems hard to shake.


LOL OLIMO

First name Olimo, last name Ley.


*last name League
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