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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.
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On January 30 2016 02:50 neurego7647 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:32 Gwavajuice wrote:
Anyone knows how long you can be in custody before having legal charges made public in Korea?
In france it's 24hours in most case, then the prosecutor has to wether free you or lead you to a court that will will decide what happens next for you. In general case, prosecutor give suspect a phone call or mail or whatever and says "you are now suspected of certain crime. Come to prosecutors office" This procedure does not need warrant This is an ordinary situation in investigating serious crimes. But this case is different. Life is arrested 'by prosecutor' with 'warrant'. This means prosecutor must have a proof because warrant is not allowed by judge without obvious proof
Damn... So he is indeed arrested? and they do indeed have proof of some wrong doing?
I'm just trying to separate what has been reported and what is being speculated.
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Good lord what is going on with SC2, there's not nearly this much shady stuff in the Dota 2 scene
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On January 30 2016 03:13 plasmidghost wrote:
Good lord what is going on with SC2, there's not nearly this much shady stuff in the Dota 2 scene
how do you know? 
Maybe shit has yet to be discovered in dota?
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On January 30 2016 03:14 NEEDZMOAR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 03:13 plasmidghost wrote:
Good lord what is going on with SC2, there's not nearly this much shady stuff in the Dota 2 scene how do you know? Maybe shit has yet to be discovered in dota?
nah in Dota and CSGO match fixing is simply casual and they just hardly take any serious actions against it
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On January 30 2016 03:17 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 03:14 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On January 30 2016 03:13 plasmidghost wrote:
Good lord what is going on with SC2, there's not nearly this much shady stuff in the Dota 2 scene how do you know? Maybe shit has yet to be discovered in dota? nah in Dota and CSGO match fixing is simply casual and they just hardly take any serious actions against it
Valve permanently banned the known matchfixers from competing in their tourneys (with the exception of Mr. 322, Solo) as far as I'm aware
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MKP made sense, he was in the bottom of sc2 scene, but Life? It's hard to believe, i hope it's nothing at the end, i have always loved this kid crazy game
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On January 30 2016 03:22 ubikz wrote:
MKP made sense, he was in the bottom of sc2 scene, but Life? It's hard to believe, i hope it's nothing at the end, i have always loved this kid crazy game
nay, it is known that MKP`s family is bloody rich.
Still, I would bet 1% that he(Life) is innocent. There were so many issues, not this time.
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On January 30 2016 02:54 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:49 Lunareste wrote:On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.
I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious. bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says From the stunned disbelief to the Rekrul bashing, this is eerily similar to the original BW thread Questioning is bashing ?
Some people love to be overly dramatic.
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On January 30 2016 02:34 Sapphire.lux wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On January 30 2016 02:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Oh dear God, this is not good... I sincerely hope it turns out he did nothing wrong. I'm going to leave it at this as well. No need to speculate until more information is gathered. That's why we're here though :p Wolf's comment is important though. There have no doubt been other cases of investigation where the players were cleared, but did not become public. This one did, apparently because an explanation was needed for SPL. But being detained, boy, it does not look good at all. I'm not familiar with Korean low but this usually means there is significant evidence on the table.
Wolf's done quite the 180 since his drunken stream about the list of match fixers and the names that will shock you!
On January 30 2016 01:49 NEEDZMOAR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 01:32 brickrd wrote:On January 30 2016 01:28 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:26 jalstar wrote:On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.
I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious. bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says He was the original foreign source for the Savior matchfixing scandal. I know that, but we're more than half a decade down the line and he never struck me as too involved or interested in SC2 except when there's snark to be dropped. I respect his involvement in revealing the BW scandal, but not more. whether he likes sc2 or is snarky about it doesn't seem related to someone having a reputation for breaking accurate information... if someone is a legit source they're legit until you demonstrate they've made errors or fabrications. personal resentment over involvement in the scene shouldn't factor in out of curiousity apart from the first matchfixing what else has he been a source for?
Rekrul broke the story that Catz was too busy with a groupie to play against JulyZerg and that's why he was DQ-ed after Catz tried to make it out as MLG having stupid rules lol.
Does that count as important news?
More pertinently, Rekrul was pretty wrong about the disbanding of TSL but he posted about that too (iirc he seemed to just repeat what the disgruntled players were saying rather than actually knowing what really happened).
So he still has contacts with people in SC2, but if they're still meaningful, I don't know.
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On January 30 2016 02:35 olimoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:27 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 02:07 ZombieGrub wrote:On January 30 2016 01:45 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 00:59 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The foreigner scene all worried about the korean scene while half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing.
I know this is a stupid thing to say but the whole situation is so obnoxious. bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says Well what about Olimo? She's deeply invested in the scene and my impression was that she was totally aboard the Rekrul train. She seemed very disappoited that the investigation stopped where it did. And I remember a couple of foreigners saying that when they were in Korea, match fixing was an open secret. Maybe they were just looking for attention. Olimo + Rekrul seems hard to shake. LOL OLIMO First name Olimo, last name Ley. I seriously considered blaming my phone's auto correct, but full disclosure, I mostly know Olimoley through Olimoleague and I just subtracted the League. Sry Olivia.  No worries! Just poking fun, it doesn't actually offend me.
Can we call you Miss Ley then ?
I personnally prefer Lady Cranck
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holy shit.... i hope he just got really drunk and punched a child or something, I would be heartbroken if any kind of scandal comes from this.
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On January 30 2016 03:35 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:34 Sapphire.lux wrote:On January 30 2016 02:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On January 30 2016 02:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Oh dear God, this is not good... I sincerely hope it turns out he did nothing wrong. I'm going to leave it at this as well. No need to speculate until more information is gathered. That's why we're here though :p Wolf's comment is important though. There have no doubt been other cases of investigation where the players were cleared, but did not become public. This one did, apparently because an explanation was needed for SPL. But being detained, boy, it does not look good at all. I'm not familiar with Korean low but this usually means there is significant evidence on the table. Wolf's done quite the 180 since his drunken stream about the list of match fixers and the names that will shock you! Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 01:49 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On January 30 2016 01:32 brickrd wrote:On January 30 2016 01:28 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:26 jalstar wrote:On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
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bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says He was the original foreign source for the Savior matchfixing scandal. I know that, but we're more than half a decade down the line and he never struck me as too involved or interested in SC2 except when there's snark to be dropped. I respect his involvement in revealing the BW scandal, but not more. whether he likes sc2 or is snarky about it doesn't seem related to someone having a reputation for breaking accurate information... if someone is a legit source they're legit until you demonstrate they've made errors or fabrications. personal resentment over involvement in the scene shouldn't factor in out of curiousity apart from the first matchfixing what else has he been a source for? Rekrul broke the story that Catz was too busy with a groupie to play against JulyZerg and that's why he was DQ-ed after Catz tried to make it out as MLG having stupid rules lol. Does that count as important news? More pertinently, Rekrul was pretty wrong about the disbanding of TSL but he posted about that too (iirc he seemed to just repeat what the disgruntled players were saying rather than actually knowing what really happened). So he still has contacts with people in SC2, but if they're still meaningful, I don't know.
Broken clock is right twice a day
Anyways I agree with op. Ive never seen 체포 being used in any situation other than arrest really. A lot of people seem hopeful that it may mean different due to the tweet but I wouldn't bet on it. He may be released innocent but 체포 is arrest, no means around it
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oh boy, this escalated quickly
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On January 30 2016 03:43 amazingxkcd wrote:
oh boy, this escalated quickly
People are scared yes.
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On January 30 2016 03:22 ubikz wrote:
MKP made sense, he was in the bottom of sc2 scene, but Life? It's hard to believe, i hope it's nothing at the end, i have always loved this kid crazy game
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a warning? maybe it's just that my english is bad, but i didn't want to offend anyone, i just wanted to express that Life matchfixing is something irracional for me. only this. i wasn't saying that MKP was guilty of anything, only that for me that Life thing is beyond sense
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I was debating about putting life on my anti-team, he was never that good in teamleagues and if he indeed match-fixed that would've meant mad skrilla for me (cuz he can't destroy my points without playing obviously)
I came to the conclusion that it would be a bad thing to tho
I really really really hope that he comes out innocent and then wrecks nerds next friday :0
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On January 30 2016 03:35 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 02:34 Sapphire.lux wrote:On January 30 2016 02:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On January 30 2016 02:08 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Oh dear God, this is not good... I sincerely hope it turns out he did nothing wrong. I'm going to leave it at this as well. No need to speculate until more information is gathered. That's why we're here though :p Wolf's comment is important though. There have no doubt been other cases of investigation where the players were cleared, but did not become public. This one did, apparently because an explanation was needed for SPL. But being detained, boy, it does not look good at all. I'm not familiar with Korean low but this usually means there is significant evidence on the table. Wolf's done quite the 180 since his drunken stream about the list of match fixers and the names that will shock you! Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 01:49 NEEDZMOAR wrote:On January 30 2016 01:32 brickrd wrote:On January 30 2016 01:28 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:26 jalstar wrote:On January 30 2016 01:24 Zealously wrote:On January 30 2016 01:15 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:08 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 01:06 pure.Wasted wrote:On January 30 2016 01:02 Penev wrote:
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bye Bye? Rekrul basically confirmed this to be the case months ago. I've just been happy to bury my head in the sand since the PRIME scandal, and just hope it would all magically go away if we stopped talking about it. Am I missing a joke or something? How is it acceptable to say "half of these fuckers are probably matchfixing"? :-S It's not a joke. Rekrul said that match fixing is rampant in SC2, more than it ever was in BW. Two dudes and their coach is not rampant. I agree that the post was insensitive, but... eh... Whatever, I'm still hoping for the best, somehow. I don't know why people put so much faith in what Rekrul says He was the original foreign source for the Savior matchfixing scandal. I know that, but we're more than half a decade down the line and he never struck me as too involved or interested in SC2 except when there's snark to be dropped. I respect his involvement in revealing the BW scandal, but not more. whether he likes sc2 or is snarky about it doesn't seem related to someone having a reputation for breaking accurate information... if someone is a legit source they're legit until you demonstrate they've made errors or fabrications. personal resentment over involvement in the scene shouldn't factor in out of curiousity apart from the first matchfixing what else has he been a source for? Rekrul broke the story that Catz was too busy with a groupie to play against JulyZerg and that's why he was DQ-ed after Catz tried to make it out as MLG having stupid rules lol. Does that count as important news? More pertinently, Rekrul was pretty wrong about the disbanding of TSL but he posted about that too (iirc he seemed to just repeat what the disgruntled players were saying rather than actually knowing what really happened). So he still has contacts with people in SC2, but if they're still meaningful, I don't know.
I missed that stream + Show Spoiler +Any VOD?
It's not caster bashing but it is my impression that Wolf is a nice guy that likes to do everything and anything to be noticed. He's going up now
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I really hope he has nothing to do with match fixing. i'd probably stop watching sc2 for a long time if it were the case.
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wait a minute? was he arrested or brought in for questioning? because those are completely different things.
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He might be there to testify against KT.
That would explain why he wanted to switch teams, and explain the strange losses KT suffered in proleague in 2015.
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